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[nowhereroad1972]

R-CALF Directors throw out Kiker - other Directors and committee chairs rumored to have quit


Group Names New President

BILLINGS, MONT. (February 9, 2007) During a meeting Thursday evening, the R-CALF USA Board of Directors, by a majority vote, asked Vice President and Region VI Director Max Thornsberry to succeed Region V Director Chuck Kiker as president of the organization, effective immediately.

Thornsberry, a veterinarian, will continue in his roles as Region VI Director and chair of R-CALF USA's Animal Health Committee.

"All R-CALF USA officers serve at the pleasure of the board, and our bylaws allow that changes can be made at any time," Thornsberry said.

Board members are elected by R-CALF USA membership, and the organization's officers are appointed by the board. The directors have the right and authority to establish which board members become officers of R-CALF USA.

"No one has been removed as director – in any way, shape or form," Thornsberry emphasized. "All we've done is just change the leadership on the board. It happens all the time with boards of directors, and it does not imply that there's any disrespect or disregard for anyone. It's just a decision that the board made."

The board also voted during this meeting to aggressively pursue R-CALF USA's membership policies with regard to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA's) proposed rule to import Canadian cattle that are over 30 months of age, and to continue to address Canada's problems with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE).

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[Big Muddy rancher]

R-CALF Directors throw out Kiker - other Directors and committee chairs rumored to have quit


Group Names New President

BILLINGS, MONT. (February 9, 2007) During a meeting Thursday evening, the R-CALF USA Board of Directors, by a majority vote, asked Vice President and Region VI Director Max Thornsberry to succeed Region V Director Chuck Kiker as president of the organization, effective immediately.

Thornsberry, a veterinarian, will continue in his roles as Region VI Director and chair of R-CALF USA's Animal Health Committee.

"All R-CALF USA officers serve at the pleasure of the board, and our bylaws allow that changes can be made at any time," Thornsberry said.

Board members are elected by R-CALF USA membership, and the organization's officers are appointed by the board. The directors have the right and authority to establish which board members become officers of R-CALF USA.

"No one has been removed as director – in any way, shape or form," Thornsberry emphasized. "All we've done is just change the leadership on the board. It happens all the time with boards of directors, and it does not imply that there's any disrespect or disregard for anyone. It's just a decision that the board made."

The board also voted during this meeting to aggressively pursue R-CALF USA's membership policies with regard to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA's) proposed rule to import Canadian cattle that are over 30 months of age, and to continue to address Canada's problems with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE).# # #

Looks like TROUBLE in PARADISE :!:


Wonder when they will start to adress the USA's problems with BSE?

 

[Sandhusker]

They have. When you've got flies in the house, the first thing you do is shut the windows so you don't get any more in.

 

[Anonymous]

asked Vice President and Region VI Director Max Thornsberry to succeed Region V Director Chuck Kiker as president of the organization, effective immediately.

Thornsberry, a veterinarian, will continue in his roles as Region VI Director and chair of R-CALF USA's Animal Health Committee.

The board also voted during this meeting to aggressively pursue R-CALF USA's membership policies with regard to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA's) proposed rule to import Canadian cattle that are over 30 months of age, and to continue to address Canada's problems with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE).

Looks to me like the right person is now in the right place to aggresively pursue this Border policy in front of USDA, Congress or the Courts.....

 

[cowsense]

From what we've seen of Thornsberry's previous comments about BSE he is just as clueless and just as selective about sensationalism as the rest of the gangleaders. Did Kiker not dance to the tune of the LMA masters quite fast enough..............sounds like they were shooting at his feet to get him to move! :shock:

 

[Tam]

Geez just when we get use to Chuckles the Clown they toss him out like yesterday's story and bring in Mad Cow Max. :wink:

What happen Sandhusker did Chuckles blink while the bright light were on or did he forget to drink all his R-CALF juice. :wink:

 

[Texan]

I wonder why this thread hasn't had more comments? I heard that Kiker wasn't quite radical enough for some of the R-CALF leadership. That he was too interested in everyone working together to move the cattle industry forward. Does anybody know what the real story is?

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

It is to bad for R-CALF if Chuck Kiker could have moved them more mainstream they might have had a bit of credibility. The way they are going they will continue to be the circus sideshow.

 

[Bill]

I wonder why this thread hasn't had more comments? I heard that Kiker wasn't quite radical enough for some of the R-CALF leadership. That he was too interested in everyone working together to move the cattle industry forward. Does anybody know what the real story is?

:lol: :lol: :lol: I ams sure the reason for such few comments is that the pom-pommers must be in shock. Not long ago they were belly bumping each other about how R-Klan was supposedly this fast growing National org and then have to do a 180 when they find out they miscounted/lost or never did have over 3000 members.

It should really surprise no one as they have proven time and time again to be complete foreigners to the process of telling the truth. It is funny though that with all his inside secret insider info ocm didn't cushion the blow as it really must be quite embarassing for the rest of them especially when also discovering R-Klan lost almost $300,000.00.

I think Kiker was the fall guy in all of this as Bullard and Leo the Ly'in show was really the creator of this mess. Leo got out before the juggled numbers were announced and in order for Bullard to save face and his job Kiker took the fall with the rest of the board ........ or something like that!

R-CALF names new president

By Ann Bagel Storck on 2/12/2007 for Meatingplace.com
Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund, United Stockgrowers of America, has asked Max Thornsberry, previously vice president, to become president of the organization effective immediately.

Thornsberry, a veterinarian, succeeds Chuck Kiker as president.

R-CALF officers are appointed by the board of directors, which are elected by the organization's membership.

Thornsberry also will continue his roles as Region VI director and chair of R-CALF's Animal Health Committee.

 

[Anonymous]

Sandcheska: "They have. When you've got flies in the house, the first thing you do is shut the windows so you don't get any more in."

Flies?

What constitutes a fly?

Please explain........


~SH~

 

[nowhereroad1972]

Just to clarify a few points as I have gotten them from the grapevine - credible sources but through the grapevine nonetheless

R-CALF President Chuck Kiker, R-CALF Director Jon Wooster and R-CALF Past President Leo McDonnell all quit the organization. They did not step down and bow out they quit completely. Also most all the committee chairs have also quit the organization. There was a power play by Bullard and it upset the apple cart.

If you thought R-CALF was radical with Kiker, hold on to your hats. Bullard, Thornsberry and Stevenson are nuts.

Dennis McDonald from Montana is a radical Democrat, but he stayed on the board and is hunting Bullard - last rumor has Bullard's salary at 159K. McDonald wants to cut it to 75K while they audit where the members and money has gone from the org. To me it looks like most went in Bullard pocket.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Just to clarify a few points as I have gotten them from the grapevine - credible sources but through the grapevine nonetheless

R-CALF President Chuck Kiker, R-CALF Director Jon Wooster and R-CALF Past President Leo McDonnell all quit the organization. They did not step down and bow out they quit completely. Also most all the committee chairs have also quit the organization. There was a power play by Bullard and it upset the apple cart.

If you thought R-CALF was radical with Kiker, hold on to your hats. Bullard, Thornsberry and Stevenson are nuts.

Dennis McDonald from Montana is a radical Democrat, but he stayed on the board and is hunting Bullard - last rumor has Bullard's salary at 159K. McDonald wants to cut it to 75K while they audit where the members and money has gone from the org. To me it looks like most went in Bullard pocket.

How could this happen with ODDTIMER overseeing the operations.
SCHMUCKHUSKER should have gone to convention to check out the financials.

 

[Bill]

Just to clarify a few points as I have gotten them from the grapevine - credible sources but through the grapevine nonetheless

R-CALF President Chuck Kiker, R-CALF Director Jon Wooster and R-CALF Past President Leo McDonnell all quit the organization. They did not step down and bow out they quit completely. Also most all the committee chairs have also quit the organization. There was a power play by Bullard and it upset the apple cart.

If you thought R-CALF was radical with Kiker, hold on to your hats. Bullard, Thornsberry and Stevenson are nuts.

Dennis McDonald from Montana is a radical Democrat, but he stayed on the board and is hunting Bullard - last rumor has Bullard's salary at 159K. McDonald wants to cut it to 75K while they audit where the members and money has gone from the org. To me it looks like most went in Bullard pocket.

How could this happen with ODDTIMER overseeing the operations.
SCHMUCKHUSKER should have gone to convention to check out the financials.

OCM WAS THERE. He must have voted to appove the audited financial statement and should have known about all of this inside crooked secret stuff.

 

[T99]

Nowhere Road 1972: R-CALF President Chuck Kiker, R-CALF Director Jon Wooster and R-CALF Past President Leo McDonnell all quit the organization. They did not step down and bow out they quit completely.

Whoever your source is on this, they're wrong. I'm not sure about Kiker and Wooster but Leo McDonnell is still a member.

 

[rkaiser]

Thanks for the goods nowhereroad, and thanks to all of the folks here on ranchers who have exposed me to the truth about Rcalf, LMA, and the typical self motivated actions of people in positions of influence.

I feel there is a need for a watchdog like producer group and thus my support and even encouragement for some of what Rcalf represents. However it has not been until recently that I have understood the true make up of Rcalf. It has been difficult to take much out of Scott Huber's posts as his hatred kind of masks the good points he has. Now I want to also say that I disagree with Scott, and always have, when it comes to multinational packer profits and multinational packer control. And will surely get blasted again by him in the future.

America is full of Pride, and I personally envy some of that. However that pride can cause manipulative folks to use it to garner support for garbage issues, that ultimately only profit themselves, or a tight knit group around them.

I feel that the current producer organizations are fearful to challenge some of the issues that need to be monitored in both of our countries, but now know that Rcalf will never be that monitor.

I know Scott, I know the answer is to take it on yourself. And I have. I am part of one of the only niche market groups operating in Canada before, during, and YES after this BSEconomic issue is over. And all the time using our own stock and not stock legally stolen due to garbage politics and manipulative packer games. And yes Scott, there has always been some profit.

I believe that there is room to learn and grow from this mess we are bogged down in, and co-operation rather than division among cattle producers on this continent is the way out.

Yes I want to rid my country of Cargill and Tyson, mostly due to the disrespect they have given producers of my country while they profited and manipulated the BSEconomic opportunity handed to them. Yes I will stick with handed rather than planned. No matter how brilliant I believe their "think tank " is, I don't think they could have planned the BSE thing.

I hope that when Rcalf finally dies it's over due death, that some of their supporters, and most of the honest hard working cattle producing members find a way to continue the cause of battling for their way of life without the propaganda that the leadership of Rcalf has fed them to ONLY pad their own dirty pockets.

 

[nowhereroad1972]

Scott has run more people to R-CALF then he has ever converted to his side of the arguement. I have read his rants and yes even heard him speak once in Rapid City.

I joined R-CALF when it started, but left soon after Bullard showed up. He is only after his pocket book and nothing else. I agree with M-COOL and that the U.S. cattle producer has to pick a group and get active for their industry. How does the line go? You have got to stand for something or you will fall for anything,... Something like that.

I think R-CALF got away from the original idea of an organization that was ran by the members and the staff was their to work on the mundain details. That was the group I joined. With the report of Bullard's salary being 159K I can see who is running the group.

 

[Sandhusker]

Who told you Bullard's salary was 159K?

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Who told you Bullard's salary was 159K?

Your a member you should have the financials, why don't you straighten us out?

 

[Sandhusker]

Who told you Bullard's salary was 159K?

Your a member you should have the financials, why don't you straighten us out?

I have absolutely no reason to believe you can be "straigtened out". I've seen whats been done with direct, easy to understand quotes.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Who told you Bullard's salary was 159K?

Your a member you should have the financials, why don't you straighten us out?

I have absolutely no reason to believe you can be "straightened out". I've seen whats been done with direct, easy to understand quotes.

You bring nothing again .Question everything Prove nothing.

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