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Early 2012-2013 Winter Forecast

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I could enjoy this if this forecast holds true- mild winter with above normal temps and below normal snow- with the storms and cold going east...
Bring on the El Nino!

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/snow-for-i-95-corridor-northeast-winter/69820
 
I think everybody would be better off in the long run with above normal snowfall. We need to put some moisture back in the ground.
 
3 M L & C said:
I think everybody would be better off in the long run with above normal snowfall. We need to put some moisture back in the ground.

Yep - I'd prefer it to come in spring rains- and make it easy on the haystacks... But I'm also in an area where we are sitting at 150-300% of normal moisture for the year...
 
They can't get a forcast right a week in advance how can they 6 months away. Were haying and moving bales here with the idea of alot of snow by mid november. I want to be all done with those projects along with a couple semi loads of firewood cut. And a new fish house for the lazy winter.
 
Weather forecasters are the only people who can be wrong 100% of the time and still keep their job. :roll:

As far as the coming winter, I have a hunch we'll take what we get and deal with it when it gets here. :wink:
 
I looked back- and this Accuweather hit last years mild winter with their early forecast right on the nose.. Blind luck :???: Probably better predictor than the wooly worm color, or the pig spleens length...

Now the NOAA National Weather Service has come out with their early forecast- and they are pretty much echoing what Accuweather is predicting- that a mild El Nino is moving in which they predict will give us up here a mild warmer than normal fall and winter with average or below average amounts of snow...

I sure am hoping they are right- as there will be a lot of grazing left in this country- and a mild open winter could sure help out a lot of folks that are short on hay....
 
I don't mind the cold but as I get older it's the snow I don't like I tend to work all the time and the snow just makes everything wet and harder to accompolish. I guess if we get alot of snow I'll go Ice fishing more.
 
Wait a minute OT. I remember last years prediction. It called for colder then normal temps and above average snow. That didn't happen. It happened the year before though. You got buried and flooded.

So anything the weather liars say is just a pile of manure especially when they try to predict so far out.
 
El Nino developing: what it is and what it means for Montana


Posted: Jul 25, 2012 5:06 PM by Meteorologist Mike Rawlins
Updated: Jul 25, 2012 5:08 PM



A new discussion from the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration shows a familiar weather condition will return shortly.

El Nino is an oscillation of the equatorial waters in the Pacific Ocean characterized by warmer than average water temperatures.

This can have significant impacts on the weather around the globe.

Trade winds blowing from east to west across the Pacific help to pile up warmer waters in the west Pacific.

During El Nino conditions, the trade winds relax, which lessens upwelling in the eastern Pacific.

Upwelling pulls up cooler water from deeper depths to the surface.

Warmer than average surface waters play can play a major role on Montana's weather.


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Climatic data shows El Nino tends to dry out the Treasure State during the winter months.

Records also indicate warmer than normal temperatures when El Nino conditions are present.

Should this pan out for Winter 2012-2013, Montana could see a worsening of the present drought conditions into the upcoming year.


Keep in mind, El Nino is only one of the factors that play into Montana's weather.

Several other oscillations can drastically affect conditions under the Big Sky.


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Here's the report from NOAA:

Over the last 30 days sea surface temperatures in the equatorial pacific have been warming up and other indicators such as sub-surface ocean temperatures and a gradual reversal in the equatorial wind and pressure fields reflect a likely progression towards El Nino.


Across the eastern equatorial Pacific ocean sea surface temperatures continue to warm, with the greatest warming occurring adjacent to the west coasts of Central and South America where SSTs have risen in excess of 1.5 degrees Celsius above the average as of the middle of July.

Farther west within the region of the eastern Pacific known as Nino 3.4, SSts anomalies varied from .3 degrees C on its west side to 1.4 degrees C at its eastern border.


Since early February of 2012, sea surface temperatures (SSTs) for region Nino 3.4 has exhibited a positive or upward trend.

15 out of a total of the 18 dynamic models predict at least a weak El Nino by August, September, October of 2012 and possibly a moderate El Nino by September, October, November of 2012.

The latest plume-based probabilistic ENSO forecast indicates virtually no chance of a La Nina for the remainder of 2012.

The model forecast does indicate a high probability of an El Nino this fall and winter.

■77% chance of an El Nino in September, October, November
■81% chance of an El Nino in October, November, December
■78% chance of an El Nino November, December, January
■69% chance of an El Nino December, January, February
The model also predicts a return to neutral ENSO conditions by the spring of 2013.
 
Here is some more winter forecasts:

http://www.ktvq.com/news/ed-s-almanac-here-are-the-winter-predictions-look-if-you-dare-/

I sure like that word mild in all the forecasts of this areas temps... Hope they are right...
 

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