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Electrical Problems

Just got on the board. sounds to me like you have an open circuit on one of the hot wires, either a broken wire or poor connection. It it arcs to the hopper, the juice from one of the hot wires is trying to reach a ground in order to complete it's circuit. Think of electricity like running water. one wire brings it to the appliance the other brings it back. In a 220 circuit the cirduit is comleted using the two hot wires. If one wire is broked the other will supply 110 volt current to and back through the neutral or grounded wire.
 
Clarence said:
Just got on the board. sounds to me like you have an open circuit on one of the hot wires, either a broken wire or poor connection. It it arcs to the hopper, the juice from one of the hot wires is trying to reach a ground in order to complete it's circuit. Think of electricity like running water. one wire brings it to the appliance the other brings it back. In a 220 circuit the cirduit is comleted using the two hot wires. If one wire is broked the other will supply 110 volt current to and back through the neutral or grounded wire.
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Hey Clarence!!!! Welcome back--we've sure missed you!!! Are you home? Take care---Turkey Track Bar and Mr. TTB
 
Clarence said:
Just got on the board. sounds to me like you have an open circuit on one of the hot wires, either a broken wire or poor connection. It it arcs to the hopper, the juice from one of the hot wires is trying to reach a ground in order to complete it's circuit. Think of electricity like running water. one wire brings it to the appliance the other brings it back. In a 220 circuit the cirduit is comleted using the two hot wires. If one wire is broked the other will supply 110 volt current to and back through the neutral or grounded wire.
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Are you really back, Clarence?? Or just visiting home and couldn't keep those fingers off Ranchersnet?! :)
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Was talking to a electrician and the first thing he said was it sounded like the motor wasn't grounged properly.
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Havent had time to look at it yet. We have been very busy building a new pen. Also the auger goes to the top of a 25ft hopper bin and its darn icy to climb up there. With my bad luck if I was to do that you may be reading about me in the paper... :roll:
 
Clarence said:
Just got on the board. sounds to me like you have an open circuit on one of the hot wires, either a broken wire or poor connection
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or an open grounded wire in the motor it self

Clarence said:
If it arcs to the hopper, the juice from one of the hot wires is trying to reach a ground in order to complete it's circuit.
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True in part - A good ground enables the current to get backto the Main Power source compleating the circuit

Clarence said:
Think of electricity like running water. one wire brings it to the appliance the other brings it back. In a 220 circuit the cirduit is comleted using the two hot wires.
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Except that the direction of the current changes 60 times per second

Clarence said:
If one wire is broked the other will supply 110 volt current to and back through the neutral or grounded wire.
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This is where it gets tricky
Gound is not Neutral BUT a neutral can be ground or grounded

The Neutrel "wire" is part of a circuit where it is used as a "legal current return wire"

Ground can be a mechical connection or wire used as a Safty Connection Only

In a stright 220V circuit there is "No" Neutral only a Safty Mechinal Gr.(in Olden times) or a Modern (Green wire)

In this case it sounds like he has a Hot Wire Grounding Out in the Motor or the supply side.

His Ground is working but "Poorly"

60 years of using the Electrical Trade to fund all my bad habits (Rodeo, horses, cattle, partying, booze, women) enabled me to learn this. :shock: :mad: 8) :roll: :!:
 
Well finally got time to get the auger down off the top of the bin. Took the motor right off the auger and I am going to replace the wire leading from the motor to the panel box first. The motor has only been used for about 50 hours last spring. If replacing the wire doesnt work I think Ill take the motor back to where I got it. I checked out the panel box and it is fine. Any other ideas?
 
I found the trouble ...... I replaced the entire wire from the panel box to the auger motor and it works.... Thank you everyone for your advice! Much appreciated! :)
 
Sometimes problems like this can be a bear to find. I had a 120 volt circuit in the machine shed that worked when it wanted to. The wire to that circuit was stapled to the wall and looked very good but when I replaced it about 3 feet from one end the black wire was broken - - - the insulation looked perfect and this wire was in service about 20 years. I will probably never know what caused the break but am glad a 20 foot piece of romex fixed it.

About a year ago I took a welder apart before discovering it was fine and the 240 volt breaker was faulty on one side. - - - I should have tested the outlet first but it was an old welder and I assumed it was the problem before checking!

Glad everything worked for you!
 
Another Electrical Contractor 'Fred' Call Me

He had 6 or 7 of his personal do 4 or 5 hour "Trouble Call" on one NEW House and they could not find the TROUBLE. Many $$$$$

"Will you look at it and FIX IT at any cost!" :!:

4.5 hours later – it was fixed
Some A$$ had driven 16 penny nails (from the outside before the building was skinned) through 2x4's at drill holes in to wires. I was lucky I could jumper splices around all the shorts.

An Employee (Traveler Electrician) had been Fired on that job :!:

Fred reported the happenings to the Local Union
Invitations showed that this person had a history that cost $100,000's:cry:

I think he was "Black Balled"

should'a been shot or steered:!:
 

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