Well here the farm payments are the same every year no matter if its a good year or not. Which is probably the dumbest thing ever. So your theory of being bailed out by the government wouldn't work here. Also not sure what everyone thinks but the subsidies we receive is not really that much compaired to what it takes to operate. I'm not talking about insurance. I believe rancherfred had some good points on insurance. Not enough that if you didn't get them you wouldn't be able to operate these days. No bank in the country would loan money to someone if their only way to make profit was the gov payments. I am curious for those of you who condemn some of us what you did on your tax's? When they changed the deductions from 25,000 up to whatever it was did you say no thanks I don't need to deduct this new baler,trailer, pickup, tractor or whatever and just chose to deduct 25,000 this year and put the rest on 7 year? The system is flawed and I see people that do things they shouldn't to get a check, can't aurgue that, just saying with the cost to operate these days the payments aren't making people rich like some believe. I still think they should do away with the whole system but that's just me.