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Feeding oat straw . . .

Maple Leaf Angus

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Does anyone have experience feeding oat straw to cows? I have a line on some dry, wrapped oat straw that has a bit of alfalfa in it since the field it came off was underseeded. I am getting one load of it to see what it's like.

It is priced about 2/3 the price of hay and will make excellent bedding since it was through a rotary combine. I can get enough to supply half of my feed for next winter.

I, for one am a little concerned aboout the potential for a jump in the price of hay next year. I buy about half of my hay needs.

It could well be that the higher commodity prices are going to put the squeeze on the cow/calf guys in this area with the land values getting so high.
 
We've done it in the past. It's a good idea to supplement them with a bit of grain though, especially if the weather is cold. If they get short on energy, it's possible for them to load up on too much straw, and get impacted. That's nasty.

Get a feed test, and have a nutritionist fix up a ration, and it'll work. For some reason they really like older straw better too.

Don't forget the mineral requirements are different on a straw ration, and make sure they get their vitamin ade shots.
 
Kato said:
We've done it in the past. It's a good idea to supplement them with a bit of grain though, especially if the weather is cold. If they get short on energy, it's possible for them to load up on too much straw, and get impacted. That's nasty.

Get a feed test, and have a nutritionist fix up a ration, and it'll work. For some reason they really like older straw better too.

Don't forget the mineral requirements are different on a straw ration, and make sure they get their vitamin ade shots.

Ditto..... and impaction is nasty....... gnarly, even. :shock:
 
MLA,

We have also fed oat straw inteh past. Makes for decent feed, make sure to supplement some grain, and mineral to them. Cows will likely really go after it since it was baled up behind a rotary combine.
 
When I was in college we fed alot of oat hay. It was pretty good and when mixed with alfalfa, they sorted out and ate that better.

Not sure about the straw, but if you had some other hay to feed with it that would be good. Should be alot of good energy, just make sure there is something along with it to keep the protein up.
 
MLA, given how little wheat got in, and how little small grain is going to go in this spring if corn prices hold, it might end up being worth more as bedding than feed if you can buy it for the right price now. Already hearing dairy guys who buy all their bedding that are budgeting double for their bedding after summer.
 
DaleK, the straw shortage could be sharp with the short wheat acreage. I think I heard that only about half of the planned acres got planted in this area. Bedding will be at a premium.

If we have normal moisture and growing conditions, I should have enough hay to mix it 50/50 with the oat straw. So we just need to wait and see what quality of hay we make next summer.

I always have trouble understanding how you guys in the dry country can have problems with your hay getting too dry. That seems so foreign to us in the east where we have high humidity and plenty of rain.

It can be tricky here to get 4 drying days in a row for curing dry hay in the windrow. Although last summer, we had perfect haying weather with a lot of good quality forage put up.

Thank you for all the information, folks.
 
you can inject the straw with anhydrous ammonia to bring the protein up also,i have never done it but read alot about it when we had more small grain
 
They will actually eat that straw better after it's a year or two old. Don't handle those rotary straw bales anymore than you have to either .Sometimes to have a tendency to explode.:wink:
 
The bales are both net and plastic wrapped so I hope they are fairly solid. We are waiting for the weather to clear to try to get some moved in. It's been stormy around here for most of a week.
 
I have a question about this "impacted" problem that Kato and TImH. mentioned. I never heard of it before.

Is it as much of a risk if they are fed a bale of hay for each bale of straw? I don't have a mixer so it's "spread and fed" for these girls.
 
Veterinarian Terminology:


Impaction of the abomasum develops in pregnant beef cows during cold winter months when cattle have decreased water intake and are fed poor-quality roughage. It also has been seen in feedlot cattle fed a variety of mixed rations containing chopped or ground roughage (straw, hay) and cereal grains and in late-pregnancy dairy cows on similar feeds.
Etiology:
The cause is unknown but considered to be consumption of excess roughage that is low in both digestible protein and energy. Impaction with sand can occur if cattle are fed hay or silage on sandy soils, or root crops that are sandy or dirty. Outbreaks may affect up to 15% of all pregnant cattle on individual farms when the ambient temperature drops to -14°F (-26°C) or lower for several days.

Pathogenesis:
The pathogenesis is unknown but is related to diet. Once the abomasum becomes impacted, subacute obstruction of the upper GI tract develops. Ions of hydrogen and chloride are continually secreted into the abomasum in spite of the impaction, and atony and alkalosis with hypochloremia result. Varying degrees of dehydration develop because fluids are not moving beyond the abomasum into the duodenum for absorption. Sequestration of potassium ions in the abomasum results in hypokalemia. Dehydration, alkalosis, electrolyte imbalance, and progressive starvation are seen. Impaction of the abomasum may be severe enough to cause irreversible abomasal atony.

Clinical Findings and Lesions:
Complete anorexia, scant feces, moderate distention of the abdomen, weight loss, and weakness are usually the initial signs. Body temperature is usually normal but may be subnormal during cold weather. A mucoid nasal discharge tends to collect at the external nares and on the muzzle; the muzzle is usually dry and cracked due to the failure of the animal to lick its nostrils and to the effects of dehydration. The heart rate may be increased, and mild dehydration is common.
Most often, the rumen is static and distended with dry contents, but it may contain excess fluid if the cow has been fed finely ground feed. The pH of the ruminal fluid is usually normal (6.5-7). Protozoal activity in the rumen ranges from normal to a marked reduction in numbers and activity (assessed microscopically under low power). The impacted abomasum is usually in the right lower quadrant on the floor of the abdomen. Deep palpation and strong percussion of the right flank may indicate the presence of a large, firm mass (impacted abomasum) and elicit a grunt (as is common in acute traumatic reticuloperitonitis), probably because of distention of the abomasum and stretching of its serosa.
Severely affected cattle die 3-6 days after the onset of signs. The abomasum ruptures in some cases, and death from acute, diffuse peritonitis and shock occurs precipitously in a few hours. In sand impaction, there is considerable weight loss, chronic diarrhea with sand in the feces, weakness, recumbency, and death in a few weeks.
Metabolic alkalosis, hypochloremia, hypokalemia, and hemoconcentration are common, as are total and differential WBC counts within the normal range. At necropsy, the abomasum is commonly enlarged (up to 8 times normal size) and impacted with dry rumen-like contents. The omasum may be similarly enlarged and impacted. The rumen is grossly enlarged and filled with dry contents or fluid. The GI tract beyond the pylorus is characteristically empty and has a dry appearance. Varying degrees of dehydration and emaciation are also present. If the abomasum has ruptured, lesions of acute diffuse peritonitis are present.

Diagnosis:
Clinical diagnosis is based on the nutritional history, clinical evidence of impaction, and laboratory results. The disease must be differentiated from secondary abomasal impaction as a form of vagal indigestion.
Impaction of the abomasum as a complication of traumatic reticuloperitonitis usually is seen in late pregnancy, and commonly only in one animal. A mild fever may or may not be present, and there may be a grunt on deep palpation of the xiphoid. The rumen is enlarged and may be hypermotile (early) or atonic (late). In many cases, it is impossible to distinguish between the 2 causes of impacted abomasum, and a right flank laparotomy may be necessary to explore the abdomen for peritoneal lesions.

Treatment:
The challenge is to recognize the cases that will respond to treatment and those that will not, ie, to determine those that should be slaughtered immediately for salvage. Cows that are weak, have a severely impacted abomasum, and have a marked tachycardia (100-120 bpm) are poor treatment risks. In cows that are treated, the metabolic alkalosis, hypochloremia, hypokalemia, and dehydration should be corrected. Lubricants and cathartics can be used in an attempt to move the impacted material, or the abomasum should be emptied surgically. Balanced electrolyte solutions are infused IV continuously for up to 72 hr at a daily rate of 80-120 mL/kg. Some cows respond well to this therapy and begin ruminating and passing feces in 48 hr.
Mineral oil can be administered at 4L/day for 3 days. Alternatively, dioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate (DSS) can be given by stomach tube at 120-180 mL of a 25% solution for a 1,000-lb (450-kg) animal mixed with ~20 L of warm water and repeated daily for 3-5 days. This dose rate will kill rumen protozoa. Mineral oil and DSS should not be administered simultaneously because DSS may potentiate the absorption of mineral oil. A beneficial response cannot be expected in <24 hr; in cattle that respond, improvement is usually seen by the end of day 3 after treatment begins.
Surgery may be considered, but results are often unsuccessful, probably because of abomasal atony, which appears to worsen after surgery. An alternative may be a rumenotomy to empty the rumen and infuse mineral oil directly into the abomasum through the reticulo-omasal orifice in an attempt to soften and promote the evacuation of the abomasal contents. Cattle with secondary impactions that develop as a sequela of traumatic reticuloperitonitis or abomasal volvulus usually show signs of vagal indigestion, and abomasal impaction may be diagnosed at the time of exploratory surgery.
The induction of parturition using dexamethasone (20 mg, IM) may be indicated in affected cattle within 2 wk of term and in which the response to treatment for a few days has been unsuccessful. Parturition may assist recovery because of a reduction in intra-abdominal volume. For sand impaction, affected cattle should be moved off the sandy soil and fed good hay and a grass mixture containing molasses and minerals. Severely affected cattle should be treated with mineral oil (4 L/day for 3 days).

Prevention and Control:
Prevention is possible by providing the necessary nutrient requirements for wintering pregnant beef cattle. When low-quality roughage is used, it should be analyzed for crude protein and digestible energy. Based on the analysis, grain is usually added to the ration to meet energy and protein requirements.
The nutrient requirements of beef cattle ( Nutritional Requirements) are guidelines for use under average conditions; higher nutrient levels than those indicated may be necessary, particularly during periods of severe cold stress. Adequate fresh drinking water should be supplied at all times; the practice of forcing wintering cows to obtain their water requirements by eating snow while on low-quality roughage is hazardous.
 
Go easy on the grain...no more than 3 pounds per head per day, or else you will confuse the bugs in the rumen as to which they are there to digest, fiber or starch, and they will not breed back or conceive as easily.

If available, you should supplement with LOOMIX, as it has a patent and will allow the bugs in the rumen to digest 34% more fiber than they could otherwise.

Straw is not low in energy, and is far better to feed when temps are really cold, like right now. Alfalfa is a cold feed and does not make body heat for the cows like straw does.

Above all, have some least cost rations run by a QUALIFIED nutritionist, NOT a veterinarian, using the feedstuffs available to you. We are finding that silage nowadays is costing far too much to feed and remain profitable, unless you like spending around $1.50/head/day to feed during the winter.

Injecting anhydrous ammonia into the bales will jump the protein level, but adds considerable expense and is a real pain to deal with, when covering, etc., and the NH3 ain't cheap anymore.

Guess it all depends if a feller wants to operate at a profit or not.

Just my .02 cents worth.
 
loomixguy said:
Go easy on the grain...no more than 3 pounds per head per day, or else you will confuse the bugs in the rumen as to which they are there to digest, fiber or starch, and they will not breed back or conceive as easily.

If available, you should supplement with LOOMIX, as it has a patent and will allow the bugs in the rumen to digest 34% more fiber than they could otherwise.

Straw is not low in energy, and is far better to feed when temps are really cold, like right now. Alfalfa is a cold feed and does not make body heat for the cows like straw does.

Above all, have some least cost rations run by a QUALIFIED nutritionist, NOT a veterinarian, using the feedstuffs available to you. We are finding that silage nowadays is costing far too much to feed and remain profitable, unless you like spending around $1.50/head/day to feed during the winter.

Injecting anhydrous ammonia into the bales will jump the protein level, but adds considerable expense and is a real pain to deal with, when covering, etc., and the NH3 ain't cheap anymore.

Guess it all depends if a feller wants to operate at a profit or not.

Just my .02 cents worth.

I dont think I would be feeding straw when its down right cold unless I was really pushing some grain and a good mineral program to them. I have seen a few people who thought they could get away with very grain and feeding straw when its -30 run into some big problems. Geeze 3 lbs of grain is hardly enough to get the cows tongue covered. :roll:
 
Then I guess all the research done by Kansas State, Montana State, and Colorado State is wrong?

You are NOT feeding the cows.......you are feeding the rumen microbes.

You are dead on on the mineral, though........LOOMIX carries a complete high copper chelated package in it.
 
Straw High in Energy :???: Could someone print research showing energy levels in straw. We have had 18 days of - 30 c. weather straw with only 3 Lbs of grain would be pretty risky for above problem.
 
Straw is very low in energy, about 30% TDN compared to 50% for hay and 80% for grains.

Straw will generate a large amount of heat during digestion but requires extra feeds to pass it through the cows system.

The biggest risk is if you have some timid cows that will fill up on straw because they get pushed away from the hay.

1 bale of high quality alfalfa weighing maybe 1500 pounds and 1 bale straw weighing 1000 pounds would make a decent ration.

Watch the manure. If it is soft you are fine, if it hardens up they are starting to bung up. Water is very important if feeding a lot of straw.

I have fed tons of straw over the years, only treated a handful for compaction. It can be a good suppliment.
 
I am staying with my almost full feed hay ration now because it's pretty chilly and windy here for the past few weeks and Although I am spending almost a buck fifty a day on feed, changing things right now could cost me a lot more.

I am cutting the hay cost a bit by putting straw out for them, but I am supplying them with hay for 90% of their required pounds/day.

There will be some more grass seed going down here next spring. Hay is plentiful around here, but it's pretty hard to make money on cows feeding them 5 cent/lbs. hay.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences. I don't think we are ever done learning.

This link came up when I googled rations and gives a few options on mixes.

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex8908?opendocument
 

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