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FireIce

I got 4 (5) gallon buckets of it. Have not had a good chance to use it yet, but the fire department that told me about have used it on car fires and structure protection and swear by it.
Heard a department used it on the Blackfoot reservation this spring and saved several homes while everything around them burned.
 
Almost got to try it out on Wednesday with a huge CRP fire, but the guys who own the place we store truck at used it to wash their equipment and left it with just less then a 1/3 of a tank of water.
Needless to say didn't get to use it and I am going to have words with them about leaving the truck empty of water during such a dangerous fire season.

They don't charge us storage fees so when they use the truck we don't complain.
 
Thank You for your purchase... Please feel free to ask any questions regarding mixing or product usage...

I Luv Herfrds said:
I got 4 (5) gallon buckets of it. Have not had a good chance to use it yet, but the fire department that told me about have used it on car fires and structure protection and swear by it.
Heard a department used it on the Blackfoot reservation this spring and saved several homes while everything around them burned.
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there's a couple (at least) different classes of foam.

one isn't really recommended for fuel spills, etc, as footsteps, etc, thru it will violate the integrity of your oxygen barrier---but if you hose it a little more, sposed to be fine.

it's nasty to run thru your apparatus---we got a couple rigged up with kinda backpacks for the foam itself, mixes right at the nozzle thru kinda a venturii setup.

then there's 'slime'---this is pretty neat stuff! we got about 50 structures on the forest that have been threatened by approaching fires a couple times, and they're in a canyon bottem with very limited egress and safety zones, slow, basically one lane out---you can put this stuff on and it's supposed to last up to an hour, and you can rehydrate it once or twice---but it's a real hassle to get it off afterwards----our theory here was to slime it, get the heck outa the way and come back in after main fire had burnt by

foam setups are really pushed at you when you buy a new truck---don't remember the acronym---quite expensive, somewhat complicated --and the foam is spendy also--but it's a real water saver. we got one first response brush truck rigged up with it---but it's kinda a hassle---prefer the backpack deal, you strap it on, switch nozzles and are ready to go in a couple minutes. Had one 4,000 acre fire this spring---and another dandy in really rough country----other than that, with the large amount of last yrs grass and extreme drought--we've had maybe 3" total precip in last 12 mos---we've been extremely lucky.

we used to use "forestry nozzles" on our brush trucks----generally obtained by liberating them from above agency when interacting--and designed with water conservation in mind---since then we've got wheels under several thousand gallons of water, have switched to way higher volumen nozzles and are able to attack lots more aggresively---being on f.d. is something you can do for community that's really kinda neat---and lots of vol f.d.'s are shorthanded---
 
littlejoe said:
there's a couple (at least) different classes of foam.

one isn't really recommended for fuel spills, etc, as footsteps, etc, thru it will violate the integrity of your oxygen barrier---but if you hose it a little more, sposed to be fine.

it's nasty to run thru your apparatus---we got a couple rigged up with kinda backpacks for the foam itself, mixes right at the nozzle thru kinda a venturii setup.

then there's 'slime'---this is pretty neat stuff! we got about 50 structures on the forest that have been threatened by approaching fires a couple times, and they're in a canyon bottem with very limited egress and safety zones, slow, basically one lane out---you can put this stuff on and it's supposed to last up to an hour, and you can rehydrate it once or twice---but it's a real hassle to get it off afterwards----our theory here was to slime it, get the heck outa the way and come back in after main fire had burnt by

foam setups are really pushed at you when you buy a new truck---don't remember the acronym---quite expensive, somewhat complicated --and the foam is spendy also--but it's a real water saver. we got one first response brush truck rigged up with it---but it's kinda a hassle---prefer the backpack deal, you strap it on, switch nozzles and are ready to go in a couple minutes. Had one 4,000 acre fire this spring---and another dandy in really rough country----other than that, with the large amount of last yrs grass and extreme drought--we've had maybe 3" total precip in last 12 mos---we've been extremely lucky.

we used to use "forestry nozzles" on our brush trucks----generally obtained by liberating them from above agency when interacting--and designed with water conservation in mind---since then we've got wheels under several thousand gallons of water, have switched to way higher volumen nozzles and are able to attack lots more aggresively---being on f.d. is something you can do for community that's really kinda neat---and lots of vol f.d.'s are shorthanded---
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How well does this product work for keeping a controlled burn under control? Would it be effective in allowing to quickly backburn an area?
 
Our plan for it's use is as a last resort in a bad fire.

You could use it but a plowed area around your burn would be cheaper.

I still have foam in my tank from a fire last year! Rinsed the tank at least 6 times and that junk is still in there.
Was told by the fire department who told me about it to mix it 20:1 on light fuels and 30:1 in heavier fuels.

That fire last year was the first time I ever ran foam in our truck. Had a fire in a wheat stubble field. Guy had combined just the heads off the wheat and left the rest. Around 16" high stubble. Had 3 trucks in front of me and they were spraying straight water but the fire was flaring up in areas right behind them. Hot dry conditions and a nice wind too.
 
I Luv Herfrds said:
Our plan for it's use is as a last resort in a bad fire.

You could use it but a plowed area around your burn would be cheaper.

I still have foam in my tank from a fire last year! Rinsed the tank at least 6 times and that junk is still in there.
Was told by the fire department who told me about it to mix it 20:1 on light fuels and 30:1 in heavier fuels.

That fire last year was the first time I ever ran foam in our truck. Had a fire in a wheat stubble field. Guy had combined just the heads off the wheat and left the rest. Around 16" high stubble. Had 3 trucks in front of me and they were spraying straight water but the fire was flaring up in areas right behind them. Hot dry conditions and a nice wind too.
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I was wondering if the foam staying around would be an issue. Sounds like a interesting product to help us burn our pastures off in the spring.
 
Jake said:
I Luv Herfrds said:
Our plan for it's use is as a last resort in a bad fire.

You could use it but a plowed area around your burn would be cheaper.

I still have foam in my tank from a fire last year! Rinsed the tank at least 6 times and that junk is still in there.
Was told by the fire department who told me about it to mix it 20:1 on light fuels and 30:1 in heavier fuels.

That fire last year was the first time I ever ran foam in our truck. Had a fire in a wheat stubble field. Guy had combined just the heads off the wheat and left the rest. Around 16" high stubble. Had 3 trucks in front of me and they were spraying straight water but the fire was flaring up in areas right behind them. Hot dry conditions and a nice wind too.
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I was wondering if the foam staying around would be an issue. Sounds like a interesting product to help us burn our pastures off in the spring.
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Nope. We played with it to get right mixture----everthing from kinda 'sudsy water' to 'shaving cream'----it stays around a bit longer than you'd think---which is good, but kinda disapates and disappears into the ground after a while----but think it's a bit spendy for burning any size of field
 

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