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First truck.

mytfarms

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Welp, it says things that come up in the daily operation of a ranch. Buyin' a pick-up truck's one of them there things, ain't it? Well, even though I got a little for I "need" a truck, I wanted your folk's opinion on the first tuck for a young guy. I already know I'm gonna get a a stick shift in case I can't start it some day. But what size, how old, ect., ect.? Now try to be more serious than a "1960's beater Ford" :shock: 'cause I need somethin' that'll last me the first 5 years of driving and trips to regional livestock judgings and back and forth to college. Thanks for any input. :D
 
Can you turn a wrench? :P If so, 1995-1997 Ford 3/4 or 1 ton 7.3 Diesel 4x4. Lots of info on the web for them and I can give you a lot of advice if you start looking at one.
Look for one around the 200,000 mile mark and take a good look at it (I can provide a list of things to look for if you find one). At that mileage and today's diesel prices, you should find one for around $4000 to $6000.

As long as you are proactive and willing to do 'preventative' maintenance, it will be a good truck for you. :D
 
Thanks Aaron! That sounds like a good place to start! Yes, I've gotten some time in turning wrenches, and I think I could take care of the truck just fine. Actually, I'm starting to look right now :shock:, so if you would like to post that list of things to look for, I'd be happy to have it! Thanks again.
 
I don't know how your fuel pencils out south of the line but diesel fuel here has been more expensive than gas here for about a year now.The truck of choice here in the diesels was always dodge because of the cummins diesel.It lasted twice as long as the v eight diesels and the early to mid nineties got the best fuel mileage.Today it is pretty hard to make a valid excuse to own a new truck with a diesel in it for three reasons.High cost of diesel over gas,very expensive to repair and service, and they get crappier mileage than gas engines because everyone wanted more power.As hard as it is to live with, the big three domestic guys cannot even come close to the dependability and value of the Japanese trucks with toyota being far in the lead.Hope this helps.
 
I'll have to make up a list...but maybe I will start on it...

Check all the lights. The marker lights in front especially because they are a pain to change.

Check clutch and brake pedal play. If your getting excessive grinding or are having to really push the clutch down to get it started, check under the dash where the clutch lever meets the master cylinder on the firewall, there is a little plastic bushing that mates them together and it wears out....an easy fix/modification if there is a lot of play between the lever and the rod. About $50 to modify it.

Take the intake boot off from the turbo and look at the turbo wheel. It should be clean and mark-free. Chips, cracks or chunks missing from the wheel, or dull edges means dirt has gotten into the turbo and really shortened the lifespan of the truck. If the truck has been fitted with a K&N filter, take a real good look at that wheel because the K&N filters let in too much dust. K&N good for gas, bad for diesel.

Roll around every which way and look at the body. If the truck has running boards on it, that will have saved the edges of the cab a fair bit.

Look at your crossmembers under your bed, see how many are rusted out, if any.

The 5 speed ZF trannys in those trucks are pretty much bullet proof...but take it for a drive and try shifting....also try downshifting from OD to 4th and then to 3rd and make sure it shifts smooth, just keep your rpm's under 2000 while doing it.

Get a truck with manual 4x4 locking hubs. It's a pain to get out and switch them by hand, but you'll eventually want to replace the automatic hubs with manuals anyways.

Find out how old the batteries are, look at you battery cables, especially the positive cable clamp on the passenger side as it has a tendancy to crack. New positive battery cable is about $140.

Find out what the owners interval is for changing oil, and what type. 15W-40 is what is for those trucks and should have been changed at an interval of no more than 5,000 miles. Also make sure he changed the filter too. See what kind of oil filter is on there as well. FRAM are bad. Purolator, Wix, Baldwin and Motorcraft are you best choices.

Run the truck, open the hood, check the oil level, and take the oil fill cap off while the truck is running. This is to see how much exhaust is coming through the oil pan. Rule of thumb is that if you flip the cap upside down and place it on the hole and the exhaust coming out blows the cap off the hole, the motor is going to have to be rebuilt.

Ask what kind of anti-freeze he is running. The 7.3 has thin cylinder walls and can be prone to cavitation if the anti-freeze does not contain SCA additives (would say on the label). Majority of the ELC (Extended Life Coolants - Red in Color) are fine for these trucks.

Ask if the injectors have been rebuilt or replaced. Average life in injectors is 250,000 miles before being rebuilt. New injectors are worth $1200 and up.

Take a look under the turbo, dip your finger so you can touch the valley of the motor and see if it is wet and smells like diesel. If so, you probably have a leek in your lift/fuel pump and while you can do the work yourself to replace it, it is a time consumer and back breaker. New pump is worth about $200, but the labour in a shop would be easily triple that.

Truck should start within 5 seconds of cranking after the glow plugs ("Wait to start" light) has went off. If any more than this, the starter might need to be replaced ($140).

Make sure the dash lights and everything inside works.

Ask if a front end alignment has ever been done. Check the front end and see if the ball joints and tie rods have been greased. Again, proper maintenance avoids pains like ball joint replacement.

Ask if the shocks have ever been changed. Stock shocks are finished on any vehicle at about 25,000 miles. If you have to change them, it would cost $400 for a good set of Bilsteins.

This should give you a good start on things. Note the prices and judge accordingly as to how much you can wittle the seller down on price. People who take care of their Ford trucks deserve a good price and those that do not, deserve it to be purchased as cheaply as possible to help it get a new lease on life.

You can go to http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php and sign up for free for the forums and get a lot more tips. I am on there and there are a lot of helpful guys and ex-ford mechanics on there that can give you the info you need.
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if there is a K&N air system on the truck, run like hell!! I bought intto that B.S. and paid the price for it big time......
 
Next truck I buy is going to be a little 4 cyl. 2 wheel drive with a 5 speed.Most of the time all I have is a little bit of fenceing supplies or fuel to bring along.You sure don't need a big truck for day to day work.Any cattle hauling could be hired out pretty easy..Other wise I have an 84 ford 3/4 ton with a 6.9 diesel that gets close to 20 mpg.Not a real work horse but plenty capeable if your not in a race when hauling cattle or hay.
 
Thanks guys! I think now I know what to look for, and I'm perty sure I don't need a big fuel guzzler! :shock: Well, anyway, thanks again for the advice and I hope I can make the right decision when the time comes.
 
Our "non haulin" trucks. Lately have either been Toyotas or jeeps. All 4x4 of course, gotta have that here with the wet ground. Them lil trucks last forever.
The jeep we use in the pasture, won't haul a whole lot of fence supplies, but it will haul enuff to do some fixin. And that lil thang literally will go ANY WHERE!!!!

The last lil toyota we just bought a couple months ago, is a 94 model. Had a new motor and transmission put in it 20,000 miles previous, and we paid $3500 for it. It has nice "cow catcher" bumper on the front, and a sturdy pipe bumper on the back. Brand new tires all the way around when we got it, but I don't like em. They are street tread, so it' doesn't go too good on wet ground. But the next set of tires will be knobby mud tires.
 
I know enough about turning wrenches to say that if Aaron were my neighbor, I'd keep him well supplied with soda pop or his favorite drink of choice all year long. Juuuuust, in case. :wink: 8) 8)

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