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Records continue to fall. Robert Hoppe of Reno, NV just smashed the NBRSA 600-yard record with a 0.579″ five-shot group at 600 yards.

Robert was shooting a 6mm Dasher with Varget powder and 105gr Hornady Amax bullets. His gun has a 28″ Hart Barrel, Panda Action with Jewell trigger, Dierkes carbon fiber stock, and Nightforce 8-32X scope.
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Amazing. This group is smaller than the end of your little finger at 600 yards?. :lol:
 
Mike said:
Records continue to fall. Robert Hoppe of Reno, NV just smashed the NBRSA 600-yard record with a 0.579″ five-shot group at 600 yards.

Robert was shooting a 6mm Dasher with Varget powder and 105gr Hornady Amax bullets. His gun has a 28″ Hart Barrel, Panda Action with Jewell trigger, Dierkes carbon fiber stock, and Nightforce 8-32X scope.
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Amazing. This group is smaller than the end of your little finger at 600 yards?. :lol:
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Am I reading that right - he's using a 6mm - not a .308 or something like that?
 
Sandhusker said:
Mike said:
Records continue to fall. Robert Hoppe of Reno, NV just smashed the NBRSA 600-yard record with a 0.579″ five-shot group at 600 yards.

Robert was shooting a 6mm Dasher with Varget powder and 105gr Hornady Amax bullets. His gun has a 28″ Hart Barrel, Panda Action with Jewell trigger, Dierkes carbon fiber stock, and Nightforce 8-32X scope.
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Amazing. This group is smaller than the end of your little finger at 600 yards?. :lol:
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Am I reading that right - he's using a 6mm - not a .308 or something like that?
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Yep. A 6mm bullet has less sectional density than the larger caliber bullets and cuts through the air better with less wind drag.

The 6mm 105 gr Amax has a Ballistic Coefficient of .500 too. The 30 cal bullets are around .400.

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek029.html
 
so he can shoot a paper real good.

the big question is does he get "buck fever" just like everyone else and his nerves screw him up and he misses the big one?

that is where I judge my shooting!



or as my uncle said after returning from Vietnam. you judge a good rifleman by how he reacts when he is taking aim, all the while knowing the target is shooting back!
 
jigs: so he can shoot a paper real good.

the big question is does he get "buck fever" just like everyone else and his nerves screw him up and he misses the big one?

that is where I judge my shooting!
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Competition shooters are perfectionists that enjoy taking the mechanical elements of shooting to higher level. Do not think for a minute they are only "paper" shooters and/or "city" folks.

Your hunting guns, cartridges, and optics today thoroughly use ideas that elevated from competition shooting.

Many of the true competition shooters I know are military veterans with vast hunting experience too.

The guns that military snipers use are rifles that evolved from "paper" shooting.

These guys are tweaking & developing the equipment of tomorrow. Why would we not encourage them?
 
Long range shooting is a skill no doubt but I cringe when I see guys on TV bragging about 5-600 shots on deer and antelope etc. In my opinion that isn't really hunting-it's replacing hunting skill witrh markmanship. I've shot some big bucks aways out there but the ones I've stillhunted up close were more satisfying to me. The perfect place to meld long range rifle skills and hunting is in predator hunting. There isn't a magic yardage where hunting ends and turningthe deer into nothing more than a bullseye with legs begins but I think most of you will get my drift. Buck fever is way more of an issue at 50 yards than when the buck is at the end of a beanfield in another timezone. I spend my allowance on the gadget mags as much as anybody and marvel at the 'improvements' in guns and optics but I still like to get out and hunt.
 
Northern Rancher said:
Long range shooting is a skill no doubt but I cringe when I see guys on TV bragging about 5-600 shots on deer and antelope etc. In my opinion that isn't really hunting-it's replacing hunting skill witrh markmanship. I've shot some big bucks aways out there but the ones I've stillhunted up close were more satisfying to me. The perfect place to meld long range rifle skills and hunting is in predator hunting. There isn't a magic yardage where hunting ends and turningthe deer into nothing more than a bullseye with legs begins but I think most of you will get my drift. Buck fever is way more of an issue at 50 yards than when the buck is at the end of a beanfield in another timezone. I spend my allowance on the gadget mags as much as anybody and marvel at the 'improvements' in guns and optics but I still like to get out and hunt.
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I can appreciate that.

One of the better gunsmiths around here who also is a benchrest shooter and varmint hunter has another hobby.

He, Jimmy McCollough, hunts deer with spear. A primitive spear that he built himself. He even napped the flint head on it. He killed 3 last year.

Hunting skills are not forgotten by everyone..................................

I got into shooting deer a little farther out from the boredom of shooting deer that would walk out under me at 50-100 yards. It was just not a challenge anymore.

Each to his own, but don't under estimate the work, expense, and effort that "paper" shooters go through unless you have tried it.

Wonder if anybody has ever killed deer with a slingshot?
 
When we get close were on the ground stillhunting lol. Ty never killed one with a slingshot but he used to shoot bucks I'd pass up with a BB gun lol. It drives my wife crazy when I pass up big deer but we only have one buck tag so we use it wisely.
 
Northern Rancher" It drives my wife crazy when I pass up big deer [/quote said:
Oh me too,I always hear these stories,first hour, first day of season...shoot the darn thing.Ohhhh no you can't do that,what would one do the rest of the month :roll: :P
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Were going for Mulies on Sunday-I'm guiding Sara so the pressures on Ty and his buddy to lay down some horn. I can't wait I love hunting mule deer-no tag for me but I'll try and get Sara onto a good buck. She's quite the kid refuses to practice but is a good shot-she whacked a fox off the front step this summer lol. Has never missed a deer yet but I'm sure that will change soon lol.
 
You can hunt on Sundays in Sask?Thats the only day Alta. can't hunt.

Gregs pretty hyped,Thurs. is first day of gun...then we're gone for the weekend to Edmonton....poor boy made the mistake of getting married the first week in Nov.{hunting season}has been suffering anniversarys since :lol: :lol:
 
Mike said:
Northern Rancher said:
Long range shooting is a skill no doubt but I cringe when I see guys on TV bragging about 5-600 shots on deer and antelope etc. In my opinion that isn't really hunting-it's replacing hunting skill witrh markmanship. I've shot some big bucks aways out there but the ones I've stillhunted up close were more satisfying to me. The perfect place to meld long range rifle skills and hunting is in predator hunting. There isn't a magic yardage where hunting ends and turningthe deer into nothing more than a bullseye with legs begins but I think most of you will get my drift. Buck fever is way more of an issue at 50 yards than when the buck is at the end of a beanfield in another timezone. I spend my allowance on the gadget mags as much as anybody and marvel at the 'improvements' in guns and optics but I still like to get out and hunt.
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I can appreciate that.

One of the better gunsmiths around here who also is a benchrest shooter and varmint hunter has another hobby.

He, Jimmy McCollough, hunts deer with spear. A primitive spear that he built himself. He even napped the flint head on it. He killed 3 last year.

Hunting skills are not forgotten by everyone..................................

I got into shooting deer a little farther out from the boredom of shooting deer that would walk out under me at 50-100 yards. It was just not a challenge anymore.

Each to his own, but don't under estimate the work, expense, and effort that "paper" shooters go through unless you have tried it.

Wonder if anybody has ever killed deer with a slingshot?
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I went rattlesnake hunting with a guy who just took his slingshot and a bag of glass marbles. He got a few, too. Of course, we cut their heads off before we stuck them in the bag, but they seemed just as dead as the ones we used a shotgun on.
 
not trying to down grade the paper shooters, I see it as a sport all its own, but I have seen a few of them shoot at deer. nothing irritates me more than finding deer that have been wounded from "long shooters"
if it don't fall where it stood, they just drive on to the next half mile shot.
 
Were travelling to where we can hunt after Ty plays hockey-if his knee lets him. I eloped on the weekend before deer season opened just so I wouldn't forget my anniversary-then they changed the dates lol. No Sunday hunting is ridiculous-you can gamble,drink. fornicate or whatever on Sunday but no hunting. It makes it really tough for people with a regular job to get out with their kids.
 
Northern Rancher said:
Were travelling to where we can hunt after Ty plays hockey-if his knee lets him. I eloped on the weekend before deer season opened just so I wouldn't forget my anniversary-then they changed the dates lol. No Sunday hunting is ridiculous-you can gamble,drink. fornicate or whatever on Sunday but no hunting. It makes it really tough for people with a regular job to get out with their kids.
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What is the reasoning behind that?
 
So you didn't skip church to go hunt.. That law is all over the place on the east coast of the US, doesn't make much sense to me but neither does Car dealerships being forced to be closed on Sundays in this state. If they chose to, fine by me, but a law? Silly.
 
Never heard of not being able to hunt on Sunday anywhere.

Sunday is the only day some people don't have to work.

Anyone know which States this is law?
 

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