no, this is not about Katrina's feet. I have heard about an alfalfa fungus spreading through some of the real wet areas around here and wondered if any one else is fighting this problem... there was a funky smell to the hay the other day, but I thought it was the foot of growth that the frost killed as it rotted away. now I am worried it may be worse!
FUNGUS
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katrina
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And I thought this was a topic on your jock itch....... 
:shock:
Oh no.......... a fungus amongus!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:shock: Oh no.......... a fungus amongus!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason
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Jock itch and Katrinas feet aside.... healthy soils and plants will never get bad fungus.
In Alfalfa you can try an application of calcium with good bacteria and good fungi between cuts. Cost is around $20 an acre for a full treatment and can raise calcium levels in the hay to 3-4% more valuable for dairy cows.
In Alfalfa you can try an application of calcium with good bacteria and good fungi between cuts. Cost is around $20 an acre for a full treatment and can raise calcium levels in the hay to 3-4% more valuable for dairy cows.
Mike
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BS. Tell that to the guys who got Asian Soybean Rust in their beans last year.
There is also some speculation that it will spread to Alfalfa too.
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This is a new rust Jason. There are no "Resistant" varieties no matter how 'healthy' the plants are.
From the "Soybean Rust Website":
"Currently, fungicides are the only effective option available for management of soybean rust. Soybean rust-resistant cultivars are not available and cultural practices like row width, planting date, and tillage may have minimal or inconsistent effects on soybean rust development."
You said "NEVER", on the fact that healthy plants will not get a fungus. Do you not think that every bean producer tries his best to raise a "healthy" crop?
katrina
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Jigs, Roscoe wants to know if it's red????(the alfalfla) :shock:
And for that jock itch put a sprinkling of horse linement on that area and you'll be a new man.... That or a covering of Ben Gay.......
And for that jock itch put a sprinkling of horse linement on that area and you'll be a new man.... That or a covering of Ben Gay.......
Jason
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Mike said:
The so called experts on the Asian Soybean rust didn't know squat about it. they said it liked wet and warm and that was all they knew.
They called the guy that promotes calcium to ask his opinion.
If any crop gets bad mold or fungus it is out of balance in some respect.
Nature sends bad fungus to tell you something is wrong.
I have not seen it for sure. but my new hay took a real beating with that frost.... set it back big time, and all the rain we had coupled with the dead hay has a funky odor......1/2 the hay came back, the other half is only an inch tall or so, at least the crown is not dead..... looks real sad...
kolanuraven
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Now there is something called ' fire blight'.
I know here shrubs, grasses, etc get it here if they've already got some good growth then get zapped with a freeze. As they come back out for the 2nd go 'round they can get fire blight. It will cause the plants to have a funky, moldy smell to them.
Don't know if it is a problem in your area or not....just a thought!
I know here shrubs, grasses, etc get it here if they've already got some good growth then get zapped with a freeze. As they come back out for the 2nd go 'round they can get fire blight. It will cause the plants to have a funky, moldy smell to them.
Don't know if it is a problem in your area or not....just a thought!
Mike
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This may be true to some extent, but why are they coming up with fungus resistant varieties everyday instead of simply using your so-called theoretical hogwash?
If there were easier ways, the "Fungicide" business would not be nearly as lucrative either. :roll:
I guess next you'll say that insects won't harm "healthy" plants either?
I do not get jock itch.....at least not since I began running my balls through the ball cleaner at the golf course.katrina said:And I thought this was a topic on your jock itch.......
Oh no.......... a fungus amongus!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason
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Mike said:
Your starting to learn Mike.
Healthy plants produce more sugar and insects have no pancreas so if they eat sugar it turns to alcohol and they die.
The Fungicide business is in business to treat the symptom of pathogenic fungus. If they treated the cause they would be out of business. Kind of like doctors not being in the business of keeping you from needing their services.
rainie
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Jason is right. A fungicide is just a quick fix. Get a soil test done because if part of your field is okay and the other isn't it shows an imbalance in the soil itself. Being able to graze year round isn't a bad problem to have. As far as the golf ball thing, I heard of a kid that tried this. He had to stand on something to reach and he slipped. Ouch.. Not sure how much damage was done. Don't want to know. Just going to have my coffee with my legs crossed real tight. 
Mike
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Jason said:
Boy Jason, you amaze me sometimes..........
Does sugar kill these insects?
"COTTON STICKINESS:
Stickiness occurs when excessive sugars present on fibers are transferred to equipment and interfere with processing. Sugars may be insect- or plant-derived. Though sugars are ubiquitous in lint, they usually occur at levels that pose no processing difficulties. This details the sources and components of problem sugars on harvested lint, the processing impacts of stickiness, and strategies for avoiding or mitigating stickiness.
Cottons contaminated with stickiness cause multiple problems in the spinning mills. The honeydew present on the cotton lint is able to contaminate all the mechanical instruments used in the transformation process from fiber to yarn, i.e. opening,carding, drawing, roving and spinning operations. These contaminants are mainly sugar deposits produced either by the cotton plant itself (physiological sugars) or by the feeding insects (entomological sugars), the latter being the most common source of contamination.
Honeydew, when present in sufficient quantity, is the main source of sugars that can result in sticky lint. Honeydew is excreted by certain phloem-feeding insects including such common pests of cotton as aphids and whiteflies. These insects are capable of transforming ingested sucrose into over twenty different sugars in their excreted honeydew. The major sugars in cotton insect honeydew are trehalulose, melezitose, sucrose, fructose and glucose.
Another source of stickiness is free plant sugars sometimes found in immature fibers. Cotton fiber is largely cellulose that is formed from sugars synthesized by the plant."
Jason, how can it be that we feed our bees sugar water? :roll:
katrina
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Do you get the wax and shine too?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Don't even want to think about a wax and shine. Will probably break out in a cold sweat the next time I walk by a golf ball cleaner thinking about this poor kid.
Jason
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As your post shows Mike, there are different kinds of sugars.
Tell me why one field will be infested but the next one not?
The insects just didn't get over there?
I am not very familair with cotton, but it could be that it is not a higher level plant. Nature might consider it a weed. I know the stems seem to be very rough from what I have seen driving past harvested fields.
If it is not a higher level plant, it will not produce the high levels of sugar necessary to detract insects.
Think about why there are more pathogens now than ever before but we have more chemicals than ever before as well?
Do you believe cattle perform better if given sound nutrition? Can you replace all their needs with chemicals?
Then why not crops?
Tell me why one field will be infested but the next one not?
The insects just didn't get over there?
I am not very familair with cotton, but it could be that it is not a higher level plant. Nature might consider it a weed. I know the stems seem to be very rough from what I have seen driving past harvested fields.
If it is not a higher level plant, it will not produce the high levels of sugar necessary to detract insects.
Think about why there are more pathogens now than ever before but we have more chemicals than ever before as well?
Do you believe cattle perform better if given sound nutrition? Can you replace all their needs with chemicals?
Then why not crops?
