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Game over for Pacman
Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) - Adam "Pacman" Jones of Tennessee was suspended Tuesday for the 2007 NFL season and Chris Henry of Cincinnati received an eight-game suspension - both for numerous violations of the NFL's personal conduct policy.

"It is a privilege to represent the NFL, not a right," NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement announcing the suspensions. "These players and all members of our league have to make the right choices and decisions in their conduct on a consistent basis."
Jones' off-field conduct has included 10 incidents where he was interviewed by police. The most recent took place in Las Vegas during the NBA All-Star weekend. Las Vegas police have recommended felony and misdemeanor charges against Jones after a fight and shooting at a strip club that paralyzed one man.

Henry was arrested four times in a 14-month span, resulting in two benchings by coach Marvin Lewis and a two-game league suspension. He was one of nine Bengals arrested in nine months.




What do you think, too much? Too little?
 
Still wondering what they will Suspend Terry "Tank" Johnson for over in Chicago. He is in jail right now serving a 90 day sentance for a parole violation on weapons charges. Was in a nightclub after being suspended fby the team for the incident which caused his parole to be revoked when his boddyguard was killed.. Oh, his bodyguard was a convicted felon and was being investigated on drug and weapons charges and was arrested the day before at Tanks house during a police raid...

My Guess is Tank will get 8 games too as soon as he gets out of the bighouse.. Here's the deal, the teams could cut the guys but some other team would pick them up.. Good to se the NFL make it impossible for that to happen.. a Year suspension in a football players career is huge... NFL is trying to clear up their off field image... Good luck with that.
 
Aww Mikey thought football was nirvarna compared to those mean old hockey players who take it out on the ice. The problem with little football and bball thuggies is it not addressed in highschool. You don't see hockey players with posse's or bodyguards Thank God for that. Just watching the sports highlites a bench clearing brawl and a few hit batters in todays baseball game. You know if everybody stood back and let the next pitcher who throws at a guy answer the bell and face the batter he just hit. That would cut that cowardly crap right out of the game. That's the most chickens...t play in all of sport.
 
Northern Rancher said:
Aww Mikey thought football was nirvarna compared to those mean old hockey players who take it out on the ice. The problem with little football and bball thuggies is it not addressed in highschool. You don't see hockey players with posse's or bodyguards Thank God for that. Just watching the sports highlites a bench clearing brawl and a few hit batters in todays baseball game. You know if everybody stood back and let the next pitcher who throws at a guy answer the bell and face the batter he just hit. That would cut that cowardly crap right out of the game. That's the most chickens...t play in all of sport.
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Just in case you've been shut in and with no news, this is about "Off-Field" antics and shenanigans. These guys been skirting with the law for a while.

You're showing your ignorance of baseball too. I've played a little and have never seen a pitcher intentionally hit a batter. They do throw a little inside sometimes to move the batter back off the plate when he's crowding it, and that's a pitching strategy.

You might not know that the batter gets a free base when he's hit with a pitch too. :lol:
 
Mikey you can bulls...t the fans but not the players-if you've never seen a baseball pitcher throw at a batter you haven't watched much baseball. Your getting more pathetic with each post-maybe go watch some lawn bowling or something. You like to chirp about hockey players but like I said NHL players don't need posse's or bodyguards around them. I guess maybe because we play a man's sport. Take those rose coloured glasses off during baseball season and WATCH the game.
 
Northern Rancher said:
Mikey you can bulls...t the fans but not the players-if you've never seen a baseball pitcher throw at a batter you haven't watched much baseball. Your getting more pathetic with each post-maybe go watch some lawn bowling or something. You like to chirp about hockey players but like I said NHL players don't need posse's or bodyguards around them. I guess maybe because we play a man's sport. Take those rose coloured glasses off during baseball season and WATCH the game.
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You can no more say "without a doubt" that pitchers intentionally try to hit a batter, any more than I can say that they don't.

"Diving" (crowding the plate by a batter) has been debated seriously for several years now by the Major League officials. It has gotten to the point that the inside part of the strike zone has been taken away from the pitchers.
The Commissioner made a mandate for the Umps to start using the whole strike zone again. That entails a few inside pitches to the inside of the plate to regain it.

A quote from all of the baseball managers and Commissioner, "Plunking" is no more a fault of the pitcher than it is the batters".

I won't get into the "Little Man" syndrome of name-calling, I don't need to.

But you are not reading what I am writing. My first statement was to remove ALL the thugs from ALL of the sports.
 
Awww aren't we the high and mighty one-why not try a post embracing the good in sport instead of a long uninformed attack on Canada's national sport. Come on Mike-can you honestly say that pitchers don't throw at batters-do you listen to pitchers when they are interviewed? Do you ever watch baseball-pretty strange coincidence when a guy jacks one and the next batter gets popped in the ribs. So it's the batters fault now-I'd hate to watch sports through your eyes because you don't see or understand much of what goes on that's for sure. Removing thugs from sports starts at the grassroots level by being INVOLVED-try it you might like it. Cluttering up a sports forum on a cattle site with some of the stuff you come up with sure isn't going to do it. Go coach some football or baseball-not hockey your clueless there lol-and get some kids started out right.
 
ACtually in the 60's and such the hit batter was a great detterent to a lot of the show boating and stuff that happens in baseball today. But pitchers also had to bat back than leaving them open for retaliation if they went over the line. It was basically a code, you knew f you screwed up you were going to get plunked, and you sure the hell didn't want your pitcher hitting some one without "good cause" because that might mean you would get drilled. That being said, there is dirty pool involved in this in that back in the day it meant a ball thrown at your ribs, not your head. Bob Gibson was famous for this as was Drysdale. It worked... No standing there watching your homerun, no freaking showboating.


But, in the meantime they put the DH in so the pitcher doesn't have to face the consequences, they allowed the batter to wear more padding than a NHL goalie, they don't inforce the rule that if your body is over the plate when you get hit it is a strike and not a free base, and they allow the batters to dive over the plate. Now, a batter doesn't even need to get plunked and they will charge the mound. I actually agree. Let the batter and pitcher square off, or let the players on the field take care of it, ie first one off the bench gets a 5-10 game suspension for fighting, longer if you are a starting pitcher since they only play every 5 games make it 25-50) and the brawls will be a thing of the past... Oh yeah, unpaid suspensions and no replacements allowed to be called up so the team will be cripled by stupid decisions. Get rid of the DH and body armor, or if you wear it you have to wear it while in the field, running the bases etc and this stuff will be over.


Mike, there is plenty of evidence to support that pitchers throw at guys on purpose... Plenty and I have heard enough admit to it in interviews to know that it probably happens even more often than that. I don't believe hockey players are the saints off the ice that some think but you don't hear about them as much as the football players (Of course, you don't hear much about hockey period anymore but at least the hawks go the first pick in the draft.. First time in franchise history, hope there is a good one out there for them)
 
So whose Chicago going to take first overall. There's a couple Sutter boys in their drasft year would sure fit there but I doubt they'd take them first. Too bad it's not next year Taveres looks like he'll be good. I loaded up on Pittsburgh guys in my draft so hope they go far. Never said hockey players were saints but not too many are convicted felons either. Baseball and basketball brawls look like pajama party pillow fights lol. Nolan Ryan could of been a power forward he took Ventura to school big time. Gordie Howe was a St. Louis Cardinal property back in the day before he played hockey too-I don't think too many pitchers would of thrown at him.
 
During the Mike Smith era I would say some obscure Russian player but since he is gone I would say, some random, obsuce Canadian :lol: :lol: Okay, probably not random and obscure to folks who follow Hockey but as I said, I am not one of those people really anymore. I am starting to watch again and enjoy the games, even think the Hawks have a couple kids on the team that aren't half bad (Still a few years away from competing though) if they could stay healthy.. With the right moves (Such as selling the team to someone who will spend some money) they could be an interesting team again.
 
NR, The brushoff pitch is rarely thrown at the batter. It is used to brush back a hitter with indifference for the hitter's comfort. Sort of like my boy saying "I wasn't throwing at my sister, just very near my sister." You see a batter can read pitches better if he extends his head over the plate, but in doing so, he gets his body in the strike zone occasionally. Well the strike zone is supposed to belong to the pitcher, but if the batter encroaches the strike zone, he effectively narrows the strike zone. The only answer is the brushback. Painting the sport with a rare beanball is the same as disparraging hockey with a rare highstick.
 
Brad S said:
NR, The brushoff pitch is rarely thrown at the batter. It is used to brush back a hitter with indifference for the hitter's comfort. Sort of like my boy saying "I wasn't throwing at my sister, just very near my sister." You see a batter can read pitches better if he extends his head over the plate, but in doing so, he gets his body in the strike zone occasionally. Well the strike zone is supposed to belong to the pitcher, but if the batter encroaches the strike zone, he effectively narrows the strike zone. The only answer is the brushback. Painting the sport with a rare beanball is the same as disparraging hockey with a rare highstick.
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I might add that there are batters who intentionally take a hit with a pitch to get a base in a tight game.
 
I know what a brushback pitch is and I also know what it looks like when a pitcher throws at a guy to hit him lol. Sheesh guys wake up and smell the coffee. I've giving Mike a little back after all the crap he posted about hockey a sport he knows nothing about. At least I've played and coached baseball-When a pitcher rares back and plunks a guy between the shoulder and the hip-he's not 'brushing him back' lol. By the way I watched playoff hockey till 2'00 A'M this morning-talk about a great two months coming up.
 
And I have no problem with that pitch at all NR.. I equate it to some of the fighting that goes on in hockey.. Kind of letting the sport police itself. Now, rearing back andplunking someone in the head is a whole different story, ask Dickie Thon or Adam Greenberg about that. Depending on the day Adam may or may not be able to find the words or walk in perfect balance due to the vertigo he suffered when he got plunked in the head..

Watching the Stars Canucks game eh NR? Yowza, gotta love 4 OT's... Frozen four is coming up to if I heard right.. I always find myself missing it..
 

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