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Gas Price's: This is no Bull Update

Bypass5

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I just got back from town and gas went up again. We're paying $2.69 a gallon. We are now getting 17.64 mpg in our Jeep with the powder product. Starting at 13.46 mpg and after 4 tanks I would say that it does work. I also have a letter from Greenfield Implement Company Inc. in Greenfield Iowa stating: On Janurary 26, 2006 we preformed a 100 hour check on Norman Parrott's CX 105 McCormick tractor. At the time had approximately 535 hours. Our dynometer showed the tractor had 90 PTO horse power at rated speed. On Feburary 9, 2006 we preformed another dynometer check on the same tractor. At rated speed on the same dynometer. The tractor showed having 95 PTO horsepower. After the first check up, Bioperformance additive was added to the fuel at the recommended rate. I have a copy of the letter. Its something to think about. Thanks for your time.

U can visit our website at:

www.tschneider.mybpbiz.com
 
Boy you like to beat a dead horse.IF YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE TAKE OUT AN ADD........and thats No Bull.
 
I just got back from town and gas went up again. We're paying $2.69 a gallon. We are now getting 17.64 mpg in our Jeep with the powder product. Starting at 13.46 mpg and after 4 tanks I would say that it does work. I also have a letter from Greenfield Implement Company Inc. in Greenfield Iowa stating: On Janurary 26, 2006 we preformed a 100 hour check on Norman Parrott's CX 105 McCormick tractor. At the time had approximately 535 hours. Our dynometer showed the tractor had 90 PTO horse power at rated speed. On Feburary 9, 2006 we preformed another dynometer check on the same tractor. At rated speed on the same dynometer. The tractor showed having 95 PTO horsepower. After the first check up, Bioperformance additive was added to the fuel at the recommended rate. I have a copy of the letter. Its something to think about. Thanks for your time.

U can visit our website at:

www.tschneider.mybpbiz.com
 
Popular Mechanics tested all of the gas-saving products on the market last year, every one of them was pie-in-the-sky. I put a K&N filter on a pickup a few years ago; waist of money. My wife has a Catback exhaust on her '05 Ford F150 and it couldn't be any thirstier but sounds cool. I'll be surprised if these pills to go in the tank amount to anything.
 
I just priced the K&N air filter and oil filter yesterday and was sure thinking of giving them a try just from the info. i've been reading about it. I dont personally know anyone that has tryed it. I think I'll give it somemore research from what u have said about it. Just trying to save what i can to help with the gas milage. when i was in town this morning gas is now $2.61, so it went up again. I've seen the 2 mpg difference myself using the powder from this product and hopfully it will get better yet after the next tank. But i know what u mean. what works for one person may not work for someone else. If my friend wouldnt have given it to me free to try i probably wouldnt have considered trying it.


Cal said:
Popular Mechanics tested all of the gas-saving products on the market last year, every one of them was pie-in-the-sky. I put a K&N filter on a pickup a few years ago; waist of money. My wife has a Catback exhaust on her '05 Ford F150 and it couldn't be any thirstier but sounds cool. I'll be surprised if these pills to go in the tank amount to anything.
 
Try checking your mileage for a long time - 3 or 4,000 miles.

It is not easy to make sure a vehicle is full. If not, the mileage won't be accurate.

I have a Continental and filled it with gas just before going on a trip. Made sure the tand was running over. Ended up having to run an errand in town, so filled it up again. The car had gone 78.4 miles and used just .633 gallons which would make it 123.9 MPG. It was running over the second time as well.

Explanation. The car has a 17.9 gallon tank and it held 19.4 gallons the first time. Ovbiously, sometimes the tank overfills and the next fillup get the credit.

Actually made me happy because I was a bit ticked off at the station where it was filled the first time.


If I think back, it has overfilled 5 or 6 times. It also had a MPG monitor which is really accurate and it never gets more than 26 or less than 21 mpg.

On my diesel pickup, I record all fuel purchases since it was new.
The mileage will vary if a trailer is pulled. It has used 1238.5 gallons of fuel in 20848 miles with a low of 12.4 and a high of 18.8MPG
 
your not snorting that powder are you..... :shock: :nod:

You sign up your neighbor and he'll sign up his and we can all get rich together in the pyramid sceme yaa you betcha...

You know if you just stay home and drive 1/2 as much you'll save 1/2 of your gas that would be like doubleing your mileage. And a sure thing...
 
Most clearly U haven't tried or will not attempt to try it. You call it a Trojan horse for lack of a better comparison. they dont make guarentees about money or the products abilities. I cant think of a single American corperation that guarentees money to the end user or startup company. A little further research will let you know that the company you slam has been in business only a few months. In that short time they have changed several things are rocky as a rule because they have to iron out wrinkles here and there. over 90% of those in the USA are skiptics.. you only have under 10% of the households in America they may even look at something.. the skeptics are too busy trying to find fault with things.......
Have a nice day. Denny....

Denny said:
your not snorting that powder are you..... :shock: :nod:

You sign up your neighbor and he'll sign up his and we can all get rich together in the pyramid sceme yaa you betcha...

You know if you just stay home and drive 1/2 as much you'll save 1/2 of your gas that would be like doubleing your mileage. And a sure thing...
 
Bypass, Please explain how your enzyme catalyst raises the calorific energy levels in diesel and gasoline. Seeing as how that is the only way your product can work, I would be more than happy to read your explanation.
 
I understand what u mean, when i check my milage from point a to point b like i've done for a long time and it comes out the same and then add an additive and it comes out better than i tend to tell myself that its making a difference. but thanks for the infomation.


Cowpuncher said:
Try checking your mileage for a long time - 3 or 4,000 miles.

It is not easy to make sure a vehicle is full. If not, the mileage won't be accurate.

I have a Continental and filled it with gas just before going on a trip. Made sure the tand was running over. Ended up having to run an errand in town, so filled it up again. The car had gone 78.4 miles and used just .633 gallons which would make it 123.9 MPG. It was running over the second time as well.

Explanation. The car has a 17.9 gallon tank and it held 19.4 gallons the first time. Ovbiously, sometimes the tank overfills and the next fillup get the credit.

Actually made me happy because I was a bit ticked off at the station where it was filled the first time.


If I think back, it has overfilled 5 or 6 times. It also had a MPG monitor which is really accurate and it never gets more than 26 or less than 21 mpg.

On my diesel pickup, I record all fuel purchases since it was new.
The mileage will vary if a trailer is pulled. It has used 1238.5 gallons of fuel in 20848 miles with a low of 12.4 and a high of 18.8MPG
 
[Chapter 9) Alternative Fuels and Additives
9.1) Do fuel additives work?
Most aftermarket fuel additives are not cost-effective. These include the octane-enhancer solutions discussed in section 6.18. There are various other pills, tablets, magnets, filters, etc. that all claim to improve either fuel economy or performance. Some of these have perfectly sound scientific mechanisms, unfortunately they are not cost-effective. Some do not even have sound scientific mechanisms. Because the same model production vehicles can vary significantly, it's expensive to unambiguously demonstrate these additives are not cost-effective. If you wish to try them, remember the biggest gain is likely to be caused by the lower mass of your wallet/purse.]
----------------------------------------

[Is there anything I can add to my gas tank to increase mileage? Is there a device that will make a tank of gas go farther?
No, said Kirk Ready, professor emeritus at Minnesota State University, Mankato's Department of Auto and Manufacturing Engineering Technology.
Some additives could clean fuel injectors on a poorly maintained car, he said. But they are unlikely to improve fuel economy, given the sophisticated systems on today's cars, and the cleaning compounds already in gasoline.
Devices meant to be added to a car have not proven effective, Ready said.

One device, for example, is designed to get air swirling before entering the engine, to provide a better mix and better gas mileage. When tested, it made no difference in fuel economy or emissions, Ready said.
Some spark plugs supposedly fire more efficiently. But Ready said they have not been shown to increase fuel economy.
Synthetic motor oil provides up to a 2 percent increase in fuel efficiency over conventional oil. But synthetic oil is much more expensive than regular oil, and the amount of gas saved wouldn't make up the difference.

Ready also puts to rest the legend of cow magnets. Farmers put the little magnets (about the size of a cigarette) into the cow's belly on the theory that if the animal eats something metallic, such as a nail, the magnet will hold it in place, preventing damage or death to the animal.
Some have taped or clamped the magnets to automotive fuel lines in hopes of creating a magnetic field that supposedly would ionize the gasoline, leading to good fuel distribution, more efficient burning and improved mileage.
Ready said tests on magnets and similar commercial products, dating to 1973, find that they are ineffective.

However, there are two proven ways to improve gas mileage, Ready said.

? Reduce speeds. Driving closer to 60 miles per hour, especially on longer trips, will make your gas go farther, he said. In a motor home, for example, you'll get 15 percent more fuel efficiency just by reducing speed to 60.

? Inflate tires properly. Tires lose pressure over time, and underinflated tires burn up the gas. Keeping tires inflated to the car manufacturer's recommendations will make a gallon of gas go farther, but it makes tires last longer and improves safety, especially for SUVs and trucks, he said.]
 
The only thing i have for that is the info. from the website and from the research that i've done on my own. I"ve read the pro's and con's about it and i'm trying to find all the info. i can for myself. the only reason that i tried it was because of a long time friend. If it works fine and if it dont thats fine to, cause like everyone else that has lost money on some kind a investment. thanks for ur input.


Mike said:
Bypass, Please explain how your enzyme catalyst raises the calorific energy levels in diesel and gasoline. Seeing as how that is the only way your product can work, I would be more than happy to read your explanation.
 
thanks for the information.


fedup2 said:
[Chapter 9) Alternative Fuels and Additives
9.1) Do fuel additives work?
Most aftermarket fuel additives are not cost-effective. These include the octane-enhancer solutions discussed in section 6.18. There are various other pills, tablets, magnets, filters, etc. that all claim to improve either fuel economy or performance. Some of these have perfectly sound scientific mechanisms, unfortunately they are not cost-effective. Some do not even have sound scientific mechanisms. Because the same model production vehicles can vary significantly, it's expensive to unambiguously demonstrate these additives are not cost-effective. If you wish to try them, remember the biggest gain is likely to be caused by the lower mass of your wallet/purse.]
----------------------------------------

[Is there anything I can add to my gas tank to increase mileage? Is there a device that will make a tank of gas go farther?
No, said Kirk Ready, professor emeritus at Minnesota State University, Mankato's Department of Auto and Manufacturing Engineering Technology.
Some additives could clean fuel injectors on a poorly maintained car, he said. But they are unlikely to improve fuel economy, given the sophisticated systems on today's cars, and the cleaning compounds already in gasoline.
Devices meant to be added to a car have not proven effective, Ready said.

One device, for example, is designed to get air swirling before entering the engine, to provide a better mix and better gas mileage. When tested, it made no difference in fuel economy or emissions, Ready said.
Some spark plugs supposedly fire more efficiently. But Ready said they have not been shown to increase fuel economy.
Synthetic motor oil provides up to a 2 percent increase in fuel efficiency over conventional oil. But synthetic oil is much more expensive than regular oil, and the amount of gas saved wouldn't make up the difference.

Ready also puts to rest the legend of cow magnets. Farmers put the little magnets (about the size of a cigarette) into the cow's belly on the theory that if the animal eats something metallic, such as a nail, the magnet will hold it in place, preventing damage or death to the animal.
Some have taped or clamped the magnets to automotive fuel lines in hopes of creating a magnetic field that supposedly would ionize the gasoline, leading to good fuel distribution, more efficient burning and improved mileage.
Ready said tests on magnets and similar commercial products, dating to 1973, find that they are ineffective.

However, there are two proven ways to improve gas mileage, Ready said.

? Reduce speeds. Driving closer to 60 miles per hour, especially on longer trips, will make your gas go farther, he said. In a motor home, for example, you'll get 15 percent more fuel efficiency just by reducing speed to 60.

? Inflate tires properly. Tires lose pressure over time, and underinflated tires burn up the gas. Keeping tires inflated to the car manufacturer's recommendations will make a gallon of gas go farther, but it makes tires last longer and improves safety, especially for SUVs and trucks, he said.]
 
Cowpuncher said:
Try checking your mileage for a long time - 3 or 4,000 miles.

It is not easy to make sure a vehicle is full. If not, the mileage won't be accurate.

I have a Continental and filled it with gas just before going on a trip. Made sure the tand was running over. Ended up having to run an errand in town, so filled it up again. The car had gone 78.4 miles and used just .633 gallons which would make it 123.9 MPG. It was running over the second time as well.

Explanation. The car has a 17.9 gallon tank and it held 19.4 gallons the first time. Ovbiously, sometimes the tank overfills and the next fillup get the credit.

Actually made me happy because I was a bit ticked off at the station where it was filled the first time.


If I think back, it has overfilled 5 or 6 times. It also had a MPG monitor which is really accurate and it never gets more than 26 or less than 21 mpg.

On my diesel pickup, I record all fuel purchases since it was new.
The mileage will vary if a trailer is pulled. It has used 1238.5 gallons of fuel in 20848 miles with a low of 12.4 and a high of 18.8MPG
Overfilling the tank is a no no because the gasoline gets into the evaporative loss canister and eventually plugs it up. If your vehicle starts to act like it's running out of gas, that's probably the deal, not getting enough air into the tank. When the pump kicks off, that's a good place to quit filling.
 

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