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Interesting article on GMO feeds....Makes you wonder- When the animals won't eat it, who do they feed it to :???:


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/05/Chickens-Not-Fooled-by-GM-Crops.aspx
 
May 19th, 2009, the AAEM sent out a press advisory calling on physicians to "educate their patients, the medical community, and the public to avoid GM (genetically modified) foods when possible, and provide educational materials concerning GM foods and health risks."

They also advised that physicians should "consider the role of GM foods in their patients' disease processes."

In their position paper, the AAEM states that several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM foods, including:

Infertility

Immune problems

Accelerated aging

Insulin regulation

Changes in major organs

Gastrointestinal changes and problems

I can not eat corn flakes anymore for breakfeast as my feet started swelling for two to three days after,couldn't even get my boots on. Be careful of what you eat.
 
I had never heard of the BT1 insecticide- so have been doing a little googling-- and found it is a bioplastic (much like the melamine the Chinese were using for fertilizer/insecticide and were adulterating foods shipped to the US that killed/sickened so many pets and even kids)-- and works as an insecticide- or at least makes plants resistant to or unattractive to the insects....

The scarey thing, to me anyways, is one of the articles was telling how they had developed Genetically Modified tomatoes that contain it and are resistant to fruit fly's...

Does make you wonder tho- if its so bad the animals won't eat it- or the insects won't eat it- what are we doing eating it :???:
 
Oldtimer said:
I had never heard of the BT1 insecticide- so have been doing a little googling-- and found it is a bioplastic (much like the melamine the Chinese were using for fertilizer/insecticide and were adulterating foods shipped to the US that killed/sickened so many pets and even kids)-- and works as an insecticide- or at least makes plants resistant to or unattractive to the insects....

The scarey thing, to me anyways, is one of the articles was telling how they had developed Genetically Modified tomatoes that contain it and are resistant to fruit fly's...

Does make you wonder tho- if its so bad the animals won't eat it- or the insects won't eat it- what are we doing eating it :???:


We have doctors at our disposal. :wink:

Pretty sad when it's anything for money.
 
PORKER said:
Yes ,It does cause Insulin regulation to go to kaput, As it is now confirmed by the Mayo Doctors


If this is the case, let us hope that Monsanto has to pay actual damages and not be let off the hook like the packers have been on bse tainted guts fed to cattle. Change of money talks, BS walks. We need some accountability instead of being treated as experiments without pay or knowledge of the risks. All to satiate the greed of management and corporations.

Tex
 
Here you can buy yourself some naturally occuring Bt insecticide:

http://www.agorganics.com/products/Thuricide/12/94.html
 
Mike said:
Here you can buy yourself some naturally occuring Bt insecticide:

http://www.agorganics.com/products/Thuricide/12/94.html



Hey, Mike, we already use it. I just don't add it to my food when eating.

Tex
 
Tex said:
Mike said:
Here you can buy yourself some naturally occuring Bt insecticide:

http://www.agorganics.com/products/Thuricide/12/94.html



Hey, Mike, we already use it. I just don't add it to my food when eating.

Tex

If you use it in your garden you are putting it on your food. :?

If you're using it on crops..........SOMETHING is going to eat it.
 
Mike said:
Tex said:
Mike said:
Here you can buy yourself some naturally occuring Bt insecticide:

http://www.agorganics.com/products/Thuricide/12/94.html



Hey, Mike, we already use it. I just don't add it to my food when eating.

Tex

If you use it in your garden you are putting it on your food. :?

If you're using it on crops..........SOMETHING is going to eat it.

spraying it on your food is different than having it biologically in it. We do spray bt mostly in the spring for moths that damage our cabbages come out and plants are young. It is pretty harmless on the plants that way but I wouldn't want its active agents bred into my food. You can wash it off, plants rapidly grow out of it, and sun does kill the bacteria that causes the problems for the moth larvae.

Tex
 
US: FDA opens electronic reporting for food safety hazards including drugs and maybe BT

Recent outbreaks of foodborne illness in humans and pets sparked Congressional action calling for 24-hour notification to the Food and Drug Administration if a company has reason to believe its food or feed products could have health hazards. On Sept. 8, the FDA implemented the electronic portal, known as the Reportable Food Registry, which now requires food processors and animal feed and pet food manufacturers to report any hazard with their products that might sicken or kill..

Facilities that manufacture, process or hold food for consumption in the United States are now required to report to the FDA within 24 hours "if they find a reasonable probability that an article of food will cause severe health problems or death to a person or an animal," according to an FDA statement.

The reporting requirement applies to all foods and animal feed regulated by the FDA, except infant formula and dietary supplements, which are covered by other regulatory requirements. Some examples of reasons a food may be reportable include bacterial contamination, allergen mislabeling or elevated levels of certain chemical components, according to the FDA notice.

"By fostering real-time submission to the FDA of information on food safety hazards, the registry enhances FDA's ability to act quickly to prevent foodborne illness," said Michael R. Taylor, senior adviser to FDA's commissioner, Dr. Margaret Hamburg. "Working with the food industry, we can swiftly remove contaminated products from commerce and keep them out of consumers' hands."

Leslie Sarasin, president and chief executive officer of the Food Marketing Institute, said in a statement, "The agency's electronic database should work well with the industry's Rapid Recall Exchange. This online initiative, set to be launched later this month, is designed to expedite supplier notification of food recalls to food retailers and wholesalers with more complete and accurate information."
 
Nobuaki Shimada2 , Kazuhisa Miyamoto2, Khozo Kanda4 and Hideo Murata3

(1) Safety Evaluation Section, National Institute of Animal Health, Kannondai 3-1-5, 305-0856 Tsukuba, Ibaraki, Japan
(2) National Institute of Animal Health, 305-0856 Tsukuba, Ibaraki, Japan
(3) National Institute of Agrobiological Science, 305-8634 Tsukuba, Ibaraki, Japan
(4) Saga University, 840-8502 Saga, Saga, Japan

Received: 3 October 2005 Accepted: 30 November 2005

Summary The mammalian intestinal epithelium has been found, based on in vivo experiments, to be resistant to insecticidal Cry toxins, which are derived from Bacillus thuringiensis and fatally damage insect midgut cells. Thus, the toxins are commonly used as a genetic resource in insect-resistant transgenic plants for feed. However, Cry toxins bind to the cellular brush border membrane vescle (BBMV) of mammalian intestinal cells. In this study, we investigated the affinity of Cry1Ab toxin, a lepidopteran-specific Cry1-type toxin, to the cellular BBMV of two mammalian intestinal cells as well as the effect of the toxin on the membrane potential of three mammalian intestinal cells compared to its effects on the silkworm midgut cell. We found that Cry1Ab toxin did bind to the bovine and porcine BBMV, but far more weakly than it did to the silkworm midgut BBMV. Furthermore, although the silkworm midgut cells developed severe membrane potential changes within 1 h following the toxin treatment at a final concentration of 2 μg/ml, no such membraneous changes were observed on the bovine, procine, and human intestinal cells. The present in vitro results suggest that, although Cry1Ab toxin may bind weakly or nonspecifically to certain BBMV components in the mammalian intestinal cell, it does not damage the cell's membrane integrity, thus exerting no subsequent adverse effects on the cell.
 
Mike said:
Nobuaki Shimada2 , Kazuhisa Miyamoto2, Khozo Kanda4 and Hideo Murata3

(1) Safety Evaluation Section, National Institute of Animal Health, Kannondai 3-1-5, 305-0856 Tsukuba, Ibaraki, Japan
(2) National Institute of Animal Health, 305-0856 Tsukuba, Ibaraki, Japan
(3) National Institute of Agrobiological Science, 305-8634 Tsukuba, Ibaraki, Japan
(4) Saga University, 840-8502 Saga, Saga, Japan

Received: 3 October 2005 Accepted: 30 November 2005

Summary The mammalian intestinal epithelium has been found, based on in vivo experiments, to be resistant to insecticidal Cry toxins, which are derived from Bacillus thuringiensis and fatally damage insect midgut cells. Thus, the toxins are commonly used as a genetic resource in insect-resistant transgenic plants for feed. However, Cry toxins bind to the cellular brush border membrane vescle (BBMV) of mammalian intestinal cells. In this study, we investigated the affinity of Cry1Ab toxin, a lepidopteran-specific Cry1-type toxin, to the cellular BBMV of two mammalian intestinal cells as well as the effect of the toxin on the membrane potential of three mammalian intestinal cells compared to its effects on the silkworm midgut cell. We found that Cry1Ab toxin did bind to the bovine and porcine BBMV, but far more weakly than it did to the silkworm midgut BBMV. Furthermore, although the silkworm midgut cells developed severe membrane potential changes within 1 h following the toxin treatment at a final concentration of 2 μg/ml, no such membraneous changes were observed on the bovine, procine, and human intestinal cells. The present in vitro results suggest that, although Cry1Ab toxin may bind weakly or nonspecifically to certain BBMV components in the mammalian intestinal cell, it does not damage the cell's membrane integrity, thus exerting no subsequent adverse effects on the cell.

I will send you an old bottle of Bt to add to your night cap.

Tex
 
Tex said:
Mike said:
Tex said:
Hey, Mike, we already use it. I just don't add it to my food when eating.

Tex

If you use it in your garden you are putting it on your food. :?

If you're using it on crops..........SOMETHING is going to eat it.

spraying it on your food is different than having it biologically in it. We do spray bt mostly in the spring for moths that damage our cabbages come out and plants are young. It is pretty harmless on the plants that way but I wouldn't want its active agents bred into my food. You can wash it off, plants rapidly grow out of it, and sun does kill the bacteria that causes the problems for the moth larvae.

Tex

What will eventually happen to Bt for organic and sustainable producers if the insects develop resistance to it?

I read once that that users of GMO crops with Bt are supposed to plant insect "refuges" of conventional crop within their Btf fields to make sure resistance doesn't develop.

I kind of doubt that much of that is going on.

I think folks that use Bt responsibly (I occasionally use some DiPel on my apple trees) are going to eventually lose an important, environmentally benign tool.
 

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