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wyatt

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say i got a hangin tree cow dog, but i can't get a straight answer on whether you can use them like any other stock dog or not? some tell me ya gotta keep them tied up or they'll kill chickens or sheep and chase everything is that true? or is it how ya teach em?
 
For a good using dog they should be kenneled until you need them. Instinct tells them to herd and when it's not needed it's a problem. Besides why would you want your good cow dog on the loose to get run overm ect. They will also be ready to go to work when you need them and not played out from traipsing around the country.
 
well i've always had border collies and aussies, they kinda keep an eye on the place and help pen whatever i'm needing at the time. never kept a dog that killed chickens or wouldn't stay in the yard. maybe these dogs aren't very good farm dogs
 
We had a dog that killed chicken's. I can't say as I blame her I was'nt real fond of them either. My wife likes chickens and wanted me to do something when we were down to six left. I told her to wait a week by then the chickens were gone and the dog had a new hobby killing pocket gophers.
 
too funny, but seriously does anyone use a hangin tree dog normally or does everyone tie them up,i'm gonna try them like any other stock dog and let her decide to live here or not
 
Sounds as if you need training along with the dog.....and it's not a smart azz remark either.

How can your dog understand you if you don't even know what you're doing? Not hard to find a good trainer to help you and the dog along...
 
wyatt said:
say i got a hangin tree cow dog, but i can't get a straight answer on whether you can use them like any other stock dog or not? some tell me ya gotta keep them tied up or they'll kill chickens or sheep and chase everything is that true? or is it how ya teach em?
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In my experience any young dog of any working breed that has a real strong desire to work stock(which is what you want) can not and should not be left unattended to do as it pleases when you can,t be with it. If the young dog isn't with you it should be in the kennel or in the porch or in the shop or it will soon discover that it can work at what ever it wants whenever it wants and however it wants which leaves you as an inconvenience as opposed to the leader. The mistake often made is to kennel a dog as punishment after it has been allowed to get into trouble. The kennel or the shop or whatever should be a place the dog willingly goes into to eat and rest. It should never be a place of punishment. In addition to this you as the leader will be the one taking the dog to the stock not the other way around. They are your stock and the dog is working for you.
 
thanks for all the feedback folks, your right about me going to training with the dog, i found a local who says she teaches both , and i know any young dog can get honery, i was just worried about these after they were trained the first people i talked to sounded pretty negative about this breed
 
wyatt said:
say i got a hangin tree cow dog, but i can't get a straight answer on whether you can use them like any other stock dog or not? some tell me ya gotta keep them tied up or they'll kill chickens or sheep and chase everything is that true? or is it how ya teach em?
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That's Boarder Collies for you - That and Yapping all the time if you don't let the out if you working other dogs.

At the home place I would let the sheep out in the Alfalfa (30 Acres) in the Late Fall - My dogs ALL knew the "Property Lines" I could leave one on the Porch - I the sheep got to close to a PL they would Center Field Them.

My Dogs were by my side 24/7 so they could work if Need-be!

24/7 - We did not have kids around for many years before V_Key - When we brought her home as a baby, my Dog 'Melody' (on her own) stopped sleeping on the floor at my side and started sleeping under V_Key's Bassinet.
But my dogs are Aussie's - - Old Line Aussie's - -
 
OldDog/NewTricks said:
wyatt said:
say i got a hangin tree cow dog, but i can't get a straight answer on whether you can use them like any other stock dog or not? some tell me ya gotta keep them tied up or they'll kill chickens or sheep and chase everything is that true? or is it how ya teach em?
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That's Boarder Collies for you - That and Yapping all the time if you don't let the out if you working other dogs.

At the home place I would let the sheep out in the Alfalfa (30 Acres) in the Late Fall - My dogs ALL knew the "Property Lines" I could leave one on the Porch - I the sheep got to close to a PL they would Center Field Them.

My Dogs were by my side 24/7 so they could work if Need-be!

24/7 - We did not have kids around for many years before V_Key - When we brought her home as a baby, my Dog 'Melody' (on her own) stopped sleeping on the floor at my side and started sleeping under V_Key's Bassinet.
But my dogs are Aussie's - - Old Line Aussie's - -
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OldDog/NewTricks, sounds like you had one of the good Aussies and you did a great job with her.

Did your Aussie ever need any training as regards the property lines as a pup. If you had her with you 24/7 probably not. 24/7 is the best way to get a young dog bonded with you as the center of their world.

Nothing like having a helpful dog.

:D
 
Dylan Biggs said:
OldDog/NewTricks said:
wyatt said:
say i got a hangin tree cow dog, but i can't get a straight answer on whether you can use them like any other stock dog or not? some tell me ya gotta keep them tied up or they'll kill chickens or sheep and chase everything is that true? or is it how ya teach em?
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That's Boarder Collies for you - That and Yapping all the time if you don't let the out if you working other dogs.

At the home place I would let the sheep out in the Alfalfa (30 Acres) in the Late Fall - My dogs ALL knew the "Property Lines" I could leave one on the Porch - I the sheep got to close to a PL they would Center Field Them.

My Dogs were by my side 24/7 so they could work if Need-be!

24/7 - We did not have kids around for many years before V_Key - When we brought her home as a baby, my Dog 'Melody' (on her own) stopped sleeping on the floor at my side and started sleeping under V_Key's Bassinet.
But my dogs are Aussie's - - Old Line Aussie's - -
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OldDog/NewTricks, sounds like you had one of the good Aussies and you did a great job with her.

Did your Aussie ever need any training as regards the property lines as a pup. If you had her with you 24/7 probably not. 24/7 is the best way to get a young dog bonded with you as the center of their world.

Nothing like having a helpful dog.

:D
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At the time I was a Aussie Breeder and had several of them - every AM I would Walk or ride the the Home Ranch (25 acres) Property Line and would call any dog that crossed the line back - soon all my dog knew where that line was...

Yes - my aussie's take some training to learn Down and Directions - about 30 minutes - the rest was EYE and Want-to

Old Line Aussies:
I have had Aussie's for 72 years - Some where I have family Photo with an Aussie Dater 1929
 
thanks for all the feedback i've been gone awhile, i sent the dog back seems she couldn't document the breeding of either parent, and the dog was skiddish from the start, somethin happened to that pup i'm almost sure, never seen one come out of it when there shy like that one was
 
Some Hangin Trees are really odd- they are wired different and act skittish for no reason
But they seem to get over it with work

If you get a good one and get it going- they are great
The others make you want to pull your hair out.
There doesn't seem to be much middle ground with them.
 
hey there thanks for the reply, i must've got abad one she was skiddish from the start ,sneaky and cowering. so i sent her back. i don't think i'll try them again
 
Some of the best ones started being

"skiddish from the start ,sneaky and cowering."

After you get that past that they are working machines with no nerves at all.

They are odd if you are used to Border Collies
 

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