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Help with the 25.00 pony :)

Mrs.Greg said:
Judith said:
So what you are saying Mrs. Greg is that I am being too dominant for this mare ?:D ( smart bum gene couldnt resist , Really I just dont have any control over it :)

Seriously I have never had a horse lose all its hair at one time, kind of freaky.

On a hugely positive note all the breeding is done for the year. Everyone is safely if foal and we only have two really late babies that could be born any minute. I have never had foals so late in the year.
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Sigh....What I was saying young lady is.....How would you feel if you were a well bred gal,and some crazy norhovian bought you for ONLY $25,THEN moved you to{shiver} VANCOUVER....would you not be stressed out a tad?????????????My hairs just falling out thinking about that poor horses new circumstances....{talking to self..."yup you set yourself up for a Judy comeback when ya mentioned hair falling out,now smile sweetly and Jawana may not notice} :) :-)
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Now that's funny!1 The stress happened to her LONG before you got her and it's just now coming to the surface. My whole ordeal took months and months and a good shed the next spring to really bring him back to center. But, Mrs. Greg could be onto something!
 
Oh,and fever rings..the hoof has a different texture-easely seen,if looked for..chances in use,diet also affect the hoof..so.look at the top of the hoof,where it grows out of the cornary band,and see if there's any difference..
 
yup there are changes all the way down the hoof equal on all 4.

Thanks a bunch guys! I will let you know what Geertsma has to say about this situation. ( other than his usual blast about me bringing home birds with broken wings. Yes, I DO get lectures on a regular basis. :) He shakes his head when he hands me his bill and alway adds a see how many GOOD horses you could have bought with this money :) :wink: I think he misses the point entirely :)
 
You can try a product called pouridon made for horses,i use it on mine every spring when they are shedding,its for mange and lice,i found out it helps them to shed quicker even though they dont have lice or mange,i get it here at the vets,pour it on(hence the name)from the tip of the head to tail
 
My vet says that when he dies he wants to be reincarnated as one of my critters.

Reason being....pet dogs avg living about 18 yrs. Had a pet cow lived to be 27 as was the world's oldest living Reg Angus cow on the planet, confirmed by the AAA! Horses that have lived to 37!!!
 
I just came inside from lettin the wild beast loose in the pasture. Holy Banolly can she ever RUN!!!!!!! She has the moves of a cutting horse and the speed of a jet. Shoot can she go. The whole idea was to let the poor little injured critter have a roll in the grass, clearly she had other ideas. I had no idea she would even be able to run with that gash in the ankle :shock:
 
Judith said:
I just came inside from lettin the wild beast loose in the pasture. Holy Banolly can she ever RUN!!!!!!! She has the moves of a cutting horse and the speed of a jet. Shoot can she go. The whole idea was to let the poor little injured critter have a roll in the grass, clearly she had other ideas. I had no idea she would even be able to run with that gash in the ankle :shock:
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Judith, sounds like you bought yourself a streaker! Nothing like feeling the wind on bare skin :wink:
 
Have any of yall heard of Blackwater?? :? :? My freinds uncle has a horse and he said it had Blackwater, it cant use its back legs. so he drags him self around, and he is hooked up to a cathader, and IV. We couldnt figgure out what it was, but David told us it was Blackwater :?


Katy
 
Canadian_Cowgirl said:
Have any of yall heard of Blackwater?? :? :? My freinds uncle has a horse and he said it had Blackwater, it cant use its back legs. so he drags him self around, and he is hooked up to a cathader, and IV. We couldnt figgure out what it was, but David told us it was Blackwater :?


Katy
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I don't know what it is but how long has the horse been like this?
 
Never heard of it either. The only Blackwater I know of is the Blackwater River in BC which has nothing to do with horses.
I think you got some wrong info handed to you Katy.
 
Im not to sure how long he has been that way, I aske my mom and she said two other names for it is Azoturia, and monday morning disease and tieing up. But those mean nothing to me. :???:
At first i asked her what Blackwater was and shes like its a river, why??

Katy
 
I have never heard of black water but I have heard of BACKWATER.....It's an older term used by old country vets, that used to mean the horse had fluid on the spinal column, And it could leave a horse with loss of use of its hind end,bowl movements,urination. Most horses are put down unless the injury was minor and would resolve with time and care. You can often see or feel where the pressure is at,and when you can't it just means the pressure is on the underside of the spine. Some vets will try to drain the fluid but until it heals( if its going to) the fluid just comes back.
 
Tying-up or azoturia is a muscle metabolism problem. The causes are several but the result is the same, muscle cramping. If the cramping is severe enough then the myoglobin released from the damaged muscle goes from blood to kidneys and into the urine, turning the urine a dark red color. Most cases of tying-up are not that severe and usually present as a horse that has been off for several days and is then exercised aggressively. In the middle of the ride (or sometimes right at the end) the horse's stride shortens and he cramps up.

Treatment is usually routine in that anti-inflammatories, small doses of sedative, muscle relaxers and in some cases IV fluid therapy gets the job done. The horse is then put on a very low energy diet for at least 1 week and blood muscle enzyme levels are obtained to assess the damage. The bigger challenge is to figure out why it happened and to prevent it.

One of the more common causes of azoturia in mares is the hormonal effect of coming into heat (estrus). I have seen many young athletic mares who are on a good nutritional and exercise program tie-up only because they were in heat. In fact, this past weekend we had a large driving competition here in Southern Pines and a mare that was part of a two horse team came into flaming heat on the day of the endurance phase. She was very fir and on a good nutritional program but shortly after completing cross country, she had a severe episode of azoturia.

Some of the other common causes are too high a level of protein and energy in the diet and poor electrolytic supplementation in hot weather.

Prevention involves use of potassium salt and baking soda supplementation in the feed, making sure that dietary energy and protein levels are not too high and that you be aware of predisposing factors such as estrus in your mare or a lameness that is overlooked. Last but not least, you will have fewer problems in general if the horse is kept on a "regular" consistent exercise program.

e-mail Dr. Jim Hamilton, DVM
 
I have seen horses tie--up after being used hard, are hot and sweaty and then not cooled off before they let them drink.
 
It got the name Blackwater from the dark urine color. Not much fun watching one in the midst of being tied up. Their muscles are hard as rock, so it must be rather painful and exhausting to the poor critter.
 

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