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I GIVE UP!!!!!!

Were these CB Western Simmentals???? Actually, they might or might not be all right, I worked for Ron for awhile, the calving crew worked...

I have used Simmental Cross Bulls and have none of the problems Ya'all describe. I don't think I have ever even had a 100 pound calf. I am not sure where my calf pullers are either. I focus real hard on getting the right Bull,


PPRM
 
Dang the tough luck Shelly, hope things look up for ya soon. Never like loosin one, or one that ya hafta mess with alot, always like them that git up and goin quick. My fingers are crossed for ya that yers perks up soon.
 
Calves that big, esp out of a heifer, usually have problems with the tendons in their feet as they seem not to have enough room in the uterus to fully flex out. Give it some time and you can, after you calm down, first quit kicking it....it can't help it...make it some 'bootie' type supports. If you'renot up to that task your vet will have something that will suffice for a day or two till it's get it's bearings in this world.

Make sure it nurses as the nursing effects/affects and the nutrition from that first colostrom will do WONDERS for that baby.

Also, check it's palate ( upper mouth plate) and make sure it's not cleft. It's not common but it will cause a calf not to want to nurse.

Best advice....cool it. How'd you like to be kicked square in the a$$ your first day on the planet????
 
I was "kicked square in the ash" when I was trying to bottle-feed it the first time! And my legs, and my back.....Lord, that thing could kick! It knew the legs were good for that! Anyways,......good news! It's standing, and hubby left me a note this morning that at 3:00 a.m. it finally sucked the cow. She was laying down, it was laying down, so he dragged the calf over to the vicinity of the cow's udder and got it sucking. Can you imagine walking in on that scene? Kodak moment and no camera!
 
Soapweed said:
Today is a brand new day, Shelly. Hope it goes much better, and hope the rest of your calving season does, too. Hay Maker is not here to say it, so I'll say, "Good Luck." :-)
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Thanks Soapweed. And everyone else for your words of encouragement (sp?). As you've all figured out by now, I've got a hot temper. My apologies to all.
 
Cattle can be frustrating. You obviously have some problems, and kicking a new born's ribs in isn't going to solve them. :evil:
 
efb said:
Cattle can be frustrating. You obviously have some problems, and kicking a new born's ribs in isn't going to solve them. :evil:
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Hey genius, piling on isn't going to help anything either. And check out your spelling on the sig line. One O, not two, unless you like everything baggy.

Phil
 
Thanks for correcting my spelling. My wife usually does that. I've tried to make the change, but I've already proved I'am no genius :( .
In regard to Shelly. With that much trouble in the first 4 opportunities to get a healthy calf up and going, something is wrong. I just have a low tolerance for abuse of animals, especially babys. The toe is the wrong end of the anatomy for solving problems. I don't mean to offend.
 
Hey Shelly don't sweat it we all lose temper somtime.Remember going to house to sat sorry to wife and both kids once,when they baled after I lost it sorting calves.Wife says I enjoy playin forman way too much.
 
Shelly said:
I GIVE UP!!!!!
I got mad and kicked the s*** out of it back, and only ended up working up a sweat and hurting my toe. Anyways, I have six cows left to go. Any offers? I've had enough!
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Two things I've learned with animals.
1/ Never give up - - Get Smarter!
2/ Never hit an animal when your Mad.

Walk off and Cool Down

Both Have Worked for everything in My Life
Rodeo, Horses, Cattle, Sheep, Working Dogs, Ect.. being a Bouncer in Bars, Family Life, and Especially #1 Raizing Kids

When I'd say - -
"I'm to mad to deal with this now - I'll do it Later"
That made for some "LOOONNNNGGG Hours" for the Kids and gave me the time to think -
What - Where - When to out smart them!

My best Working Dog thought me to watch my Voice - - if my Voice change, ever so Little, she would leave me and go to the house!

Drunks and Bullies tend to loose their cool and get to self assured - There some thing about a 165# 5'8" Bouncer that Is Calm, Cool, Collected and Knows What He Going to Do, and When to move at that Rattles Them :!:

In 15 years of Bouncing and Bar Tending - - my friends had the Mussles - my Mussle was my Brain.

Not to Brag just my thoughts
It's not enough for a Bull Rider to
Think Their Tough :!:
They must Think Tough & Smart :!:

One of our Presidents said
"Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick" (I Like to Add)
"Know When and How to Use It"
 
greg said:
Hey Shelly don't sweat it we all lose temper somtime.Remember going to house to sat sorry to wife and both kids once,when they baled after I lost it sorting calves.Wife says I enjoy playin forman way too much.
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Only thing harder than holding your temper at times is having to go make it right when you lose it.

Now, that tests what a person is really made of.

Yo da mon, Greg, yo da mon!
 
efb said:
Thanks for correcting my spelling. My wife usually does that. I've tried to make the change, but I've already proved I'am no genius :( .
In regard to Shelly. With that much trouble in the first 4 opportunities to get a healthy calf up and going, something is wrong. I just have a low tolerance for abuse of animals, especially babys. The toe is the wrong end of the anatomy for solving problems. I don't mean to offend.
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Hey buddy, I've calved out a hell of alot more than four cows already, and I've been doing most of it on my own! I've gotten everybody else's calves up and going, and I'm starting to burn out. I've been working from 6:00 in the morning till 9:30 at night nonstop for almost three weeks, if I'm not outside then I'm here in the house catching up "women's work". So when I lost my temper, it was out of frustration. My calves are my only source of income, and to have the luck I'm getting while everybody else is breezing along carefree, it makes for a cranky me.
 
Shelly said:
efb said:
Thanks for correcting my spelling. My wife usually does that. I've tried to make the change, but I've already proved I'am no genius :( .
In regard to Shelly. With that much trouble in the first 4 opportunities to get a healthy calf up and going, something is wrong. I just have a low tolerance for abuse of animals, especially babys. The toe is the wrong end of the anatomy for solving problems. I don't mean to offend.
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Hey buddy, I've calved out a hell of alot more than four cows already, and I've been doing most of it on my own! I've gotten everybody else's calves up and going, and I'm starting to burn out. I've been working from 6:00 in the morning till 9:30 at night nonstop for almost three weeks, if I'm not outside then I'm here in the house catching up "women's work". So when I lost my temper, it was out of frustration. My calves are my only source of income, and to have the luck I'm getting while everybody else is breezing along carefree, it makes for a cranky me.
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Sound's like you should start chargeing your husband for services you know cooking cleaning laundry and such. If he treat's you like a hired hand charge him accordingly he's got money for a new truck he can pay.My wife and I have 1 checkbook ALL of our money goes into it and is our's together. My wife alway's say's she own's cows 1 day a year PAYDAY but all jokes aside we work as a team everyday. If your partner is'nt in it with you together as one I would kick'em to the curb my ex-wife know's this for a fact.Life's to short to be treated like crap.
 
A 160 pound calf is way too high. Sell the bull as a start and don't keep any of his calves. If a low birth weight bull won't help you may need new cows. Or you may be feeding too much in the last 2 months before calving. Calves should be in the 60 to 90 pound range.
Best of luck to you darlin.
 
Hope things are going better for you Shelley. I understand. Last year I lost 4 calves (only calved out 11 - not counting one that didin't get bred). It was pretty hard on me especially emotionally, cried all calving season I think and aged 10 years. Hubby wanted me to sale all of my cows. I couldn't imagine having a happy life without them. Wasn't fun, but didn't sale. (well, sold two but they had to go).

Always remember you gotta have a bad year to have a good year. At least we know our bad year is over with :?

Hang in there.
 

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