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I need help with this feed analysis (ear corn)

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this is ground ear corn I snapped and ground. I am feeding it to some young growing bulls as 80% ear corn and top dressing it with 20% soy bean meal. they are getting about 10 pounds per head per day and on green pasture.
What do y'all think?


Moisture = 13.07%

as sampled
crude protein = 8.42 %
digestible protein = 4.80%
fiber - NDF = 28.69%
Fiber - ADF = 11.30%

As dry matter
Moisture = 13.07%
dry matter = 86.93%
crude protein = 9.69%
Digestible Protein = 5.52%
NDF = 33.00%
ADF = 13.00%
 
It looked like not so good feed to me and I would think some hay would run more protein. But then I don't know enough about a feed analysis to say.
The corn only made 16 bushels to the acre so it is mostly cob, shuck and stuff.
The calves (born last December) seem to like it a lot and they are growing well but not getting "fat". So I would say its working but its a lot of work to snap and grind but way cheaper than bought feed.
 
bama, You are doing just great... Ear corn is wonderful feed for bred cows... It won't make the calves big, yet you can feed enough to give the cows the heat needed for the winters here.... We feed about 5 pounds a day to background our weaned calves with all the hay and alfalfa they want.
 
Before anyone can do an analysis for you 'bama, we need to know
how many pounds of corn they are getting and how much soybean.

Percentages don't mean that much if we don't know the AMOUNT being fed. Right off the top, I'd say you are short of protein as you mentioned.

Let us know the amount fed and we'll go from there.
 
I'm no rocket scientist FH, but if he is feeding 10#s per head per day @ 80% corn & 20% bean meal, it would be 8#s of corn and 2#s of meal per day. Am I misunderstanding your question?
 
fedup2 said:
I'm no rocket scientist FH, but if he is feeding 10#s per head per day @ 80% corn & 20% bean meal, it would be 8#s of corn and 2#s of meal per day. Am I misunderstanding your question?
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And I am feeding it split into two feedings a day. The calves are close to 1000 pounds. Some more but not much more and some less.

If meal is 48% and corn is 8.5%
(8.5)(.80) + (48.0)(.2) = 16.4
So I would say I was feeding 16.4% crude protein. But what about the digestable protein and the NDF and the ADF?
 
I used to know a guy who fed ear corn ground in with seed corn silage as part of a finishing ration for his cows.. They always graded out pretty good for him.. Talking to some old timers around here and they always say ground whole is a highly underrated feed for cows and weaned calves. One almost talked me into buying an ear picker until I realized I had no corn planted
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We used to sell over 400 ton of ear corn.. It is a wonderful feed...... If you can find a dumb sucker to pick it and haul it.... One of the best aroebic weight loosing diets I ever did....... YOu want arms,abs and thighs?? unload ear corn out of a gravity box.....
We piled it on the ground with a elevator. Ran it up the elevator on to the ground...... Try driving up to a elevator, get close enough to unload it and not run over the elevator... Those were the days.......
 
katrina said:
We used to sell over 400 ton of ear corn.. It is a wonderful feed...... If you can find a dumb sucker to pick it and haul it.... One of the best aroebic weight loosing diets I ever did....... YOu want arms,abs and thighs?? unload ear corn out of a gravity box.....
We piled it on the ground with a elevator. Ran it up the elevator on to the ground...... Try driving up to a elevator, get close enough to unload it and not run over the elevator... Those were the days.......
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I have been pulling a wagon full and grinding it and then pull another wagon full. The dang snapper is an old JD 110 and the devel to hook up. I have to take the finder and the hitch off. Then bolt on some atachment points. I have been snapping with the rake tractor (JD-2020) so I have to change it up every time I cut hay or snap corn.
You know that ear corn is hard to get out of the wagon too. I have to get in the wagon and push it out the door with a pitch fork.
 
we have old corn cribs all over the property.. Storage for corn on the sides of a drive through with bean/oat storage overhead.. They were a great system back in the day but what a pain in the but to clean out.. I can't imagine how much storage for ear corn this property has... Probably plenty to feed our cattle with.
 
Bama, get some boards and put them on the off side that you're unloading. Under the tires to tip your wagon... Use a hoe or a rake and you'll have better luck... The dryer the corn the better it will slide. :-) :-) . We used a unisystem and hubby had a rope he would pull to pull the hitch out, then back up to the gravity box and hook back up... Our gravity boxes have sliders on the toungue that makes it a little bit easier to hook up. Although you still have to get out of the tractor.. I use to hook hubby up if I was there and then hook my tractor up and high tail it back to the elevator to unload..... I think the most loads in a day was 32 or 34....... Also if the corn is really dry you get all the shucks too. Bama, I feel for you......
 
I am not running the blower on the snapper and the corn is very dry so I have almost as much shuck as I do corn. The wagon unloads out the side. I sit on a bucket, pull the corn out and into the grinder hopper, and still have to climb in the wagon several times to push it to the door.
That still ain't a bad as picking. I have to use a pitchfork and pull the corn to the back of the wagon as the front fills up.
I pick one row at a time and in second gear. It takes forever in very light corn with ears 3 to 5 inches long.
We use an old JD feed mill with a 3/8 screen hooked to a 4020 to grind. It takes a good 2 hours to grind a wagon full.
I got some pictures and if I can find them tonight, I will try to post some.
 
katrina said:
We used to sell over 400 ton of ear corn.. It is a wonderful feed...... If you can find a dumb sucker to pick it and haul it.... One of the best aroebic weight loosing diets I ever did....... YOu want arms,abs and thighs?? unload ear corn out of a gravity box.....
We piled it on the ground with a elevator. Ran it up the elevator on to the ground...... Try driving up to a elevator, get close enough to unload it and not run over the elevator... Those were the days.......
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Get a high lift dump wagon and dump it in a truck. more work than shelled, but it ain't that bad
 

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