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Ideal Ranching Mecca - oxymoron? lol.

As far as where I'd pick to ranch.....not having to worry about the weather would probably put me somewhere in SW SD, WY or MT. Valentine, NE has always had an attraction to me as well. The Gyp Hills and the Flint Hills here in Kansas are great. NE NM would be fine too. Jinglebob, you nailed it though. If it's going to be bought at a decent price then it has to be somewhere that no one else wants to be!
 
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I'd like to have one of them places in Wyo with all the beautiful oil wells pumpin out the bucks <<

If your talking about the area around Pinedale Wyoming. Those are GAS wells. The Pinedale anticline and the Jonah basin. Should have bought ya some Ultra Petroleum stock about 4-5 years ago. Then this ranching would just be a real enjoyable hobby for you.

BTW, it's not too late. NG is just going to become more valuable in the future, but beware it is very volatile right now!
 
like I said in the other post either the sandhills or the flinthills. I really like the area up between Kilgore and Valentine and I really like the area between Manhattan and Council Grove.

But if I was mountain ranchin I think I'd wanna be east of Idaho Falls, Idaho. I really enjoy that country around there it's rough but really purdy.
 
Okahanja district of Namibia, dry cool winters, hot, not humid summers, sweet grass and well treed for stock shade few diseases and paracites and winter grazing consists of with holding some summer grazing after early rotational grazing, to use as' standing hay' with only a phosphate and protien blocks to subsidise the grass. The variety of game species to hunt are an added bonus!
 
movin' on said:
efb,

Who are the Bass's from Ft. Worth? I was wondering how that sale turned out.
the bass brothers of fortworth tx owned national farms and sevaral feed yards and have ranches all over but after 911 national farms shut down on paper anyhow
lee perry bass owns sevaral ranches and he has one in the flint hills called the chapman barnhardt ranch i think that is the right name it runs about 40k steers in the summer i think i never went there when i worked for him at his ranch in kingsville tx
the whole lot of them are very wealthy
mostly in the oil bussiness but lots of other ventures also like one for instance if i remember correctly lee perry bass owned 49% of the stock in disney and lost like 4 billoin dollars on it after 911
hope that helps your ?
until later
jerry
 
Tap you are always asking great questions to get these threads going and I usually don't pipe up, this time I will. JB is right about the people thing, if you have the tall mountains, clear streams, you are not going to get away from encroachment, beauty sells, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have worked and ridden all over Idaho and Montana, been all over the West including Canada and have decided that I like where we are cause it is kinda in between. not the majestic peaks, pine covered hills, not the blue ribbon trout streams but lots of wildlife, but no tourists trying to make this paradise. Every place that I have been has it's own beauty, it's own good and it's own bad. It is an oxymoron. I grew up trailing cattle into the high mountains for the summer, valleys for the winter and thought that was the way to go. Now that place is so over run with wolves, tourists and environmentalists, and the valley subdivided into ranchettes, I can't stand to look at it. I like to look out here in the night sky and not see a single light, hear a single plane, hear a car or hear a train.
 
NR, Buffalo and Sheridan, Wyoming land got expensive before it did
any place else. Too many dude ranches that were promoted years ago
brought the eastern money people to that area. It definitely is good ranching country...or WAS, before the influx of foreigners. Mr. FH hates to
even go there now, seeing what has happened to it. One guy with
Coca-Cola has bought up almost all the whole foothills along the
Big Horn mountains.

They buy the land, put a big house on it, and lock the
gates. My dad fished on streams from the Big Horn mountains for years,
but all the places were sold and the new folks didn't want to be bothered
with an old man that wanted to fish.

Some of them don't want cattle on their land either.

Mr. FH favorite ranching country is the Parkman, Wyoming country
right on the Montana-Wyoming border. He says "heaven couldn't
get much better than that."
 
If your looking for a romantic no neighbors type of place they are getting far and few between.I was'nt born rich so I will most likely make due here where I'm at buy a little land here and there and lease the rest if it.I would have moved to western North Dakota 10 years ago but with a wife and kids and ex wife and ex husband we could'nt just up and move due to our respect for the kids other parents.Now we have bought some land and have some pretty good leases for our area I will make due If the next 20 years go as fast as the last it wont matter much then anyhow.

If I had the money to buy a ranch out west some where the neighbors first thought would be oh here comes another rich prick from back east.

I gave up careing if I owned all the land I need cows are what It's all about if all I do is rent well then thats fine rent here is cheaper than interest.Treat your landlords well and you wont have much trouble keeping your leases.I know the guys who gripe alot around here and forget to pay lose their leases most every year.
 
sw said:
Tap you are always asking great questions to get these threads going and I usually don't pipe up, this time I will. JB is right about the people thing, if you have the tall mountains, clear streams, you are not going to get away from encroachment, beauty sells, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have worked and ridden all over Idaho and Montana, been all over the West including Canada and have decided that I like where we are cause it is kinda in between. not the majestic peaks, pine covered hills, not the blue ribbon trout streams but lots of wildlife, but no tourists trying to make this paradise. Every place that I have been has it's own beauty, it's own good and it's own bad. It is an oxymoron. I grew up trailing cattle into the high mountains for the summer, valleys for the winter and thought that was the way to go. Now that place is so over run with wolves, tourists and environmentalists, and the valley subdivided into ranchettes, I can't stand to look at it. I like to look out here in the night sky and not see a single light, hear a single plane, hear a car or hear a train.

You make lots of good points sw. I am sure no place is perfect. I wish our creeks had lots of timber on them, and we had some pine forest on our ranch, but hey, I am mostly satisfied anyway. We get a FEW days each year that remind me why I like living here. :wink: We probably will be one of the last places that get invaded by a lot of people, and that suits me fine. The only time there are not too many people living here to suit me is when we are trying to get a branding crew together. :-)
 
Tap said:
The only time there are not too many people living here to suit me is when we are trying to get a branding crew together. :-)

Maybe your just too hard to get along with and don't pay good enough?























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I like the foothills area of Alberta (at least I did until the invation), but prices there make it impossible to even think of ranching there, actually most all of Alberta is that way now.
Its very sad to see all the farm and ranchlands being swallowed up and chopped up into small little 1,2 and 5 acre acreages and the major population boom. It made me run kicking and screaming from Alberta.
I have found a very nice ranching area in another province that is very similar to "my Alberta foothills" and its not crowded and the people that are here are very friendly and helpful (the way it used to be in AB)
The land prices are still decent here too! I think I'll be happy here, I quite like it.
 
What are your coordinates Jigger lol. I have a relative just get offered 1.8 million for 6 quarters over by Camrose-he turned it down-I think two fools met right there lol. You can buy a small town for that in Saskatchewan lol.
 
Northern Rancher said:
What are your coordinates Jigger lol. I have a relative just get offered 1.8 million for 6 quarters over by Camrose-he turned it down-I think two fools met right there lol. You can buy a small town for that in Saskatchewan lol.
:shock: Hey get the buyers name for me...tell him he just bought some land about an hour out of Camrose...we'll throw in the Johnny pop for the price 8)
 
Northern Rancher said:
What are your coordinates Jigger lol. I have a relative just get offered 1.8 million for 6 quarters over by Camrose-he turned it down-I think two fools met right there lol. You can buy a small town for that in Saskatchewan lol.

Honestly he might be able to get more for that land the way prices are in AB. Our friends have their 1/4 for sale near a golf course for 1.6M, it has subdivision approval already. They've had some lookers, so maybe in the spring it will sell. Another friend of ours sold her ranch, 1/2 section with 4400 acres lease for 1.75M. The deeded land might end up being a golf course :roll: .
The only people interested in land at that price are developers. Its sad to see. Its near impossible to afford to ranch in AB anymore.
You can PM me and I'll tell you where we ran to, but I don't want to say in public in fear it could start another 'Alberta invation' that we ran from already, although the land chopping rules are different here than what they are in AB :clap: :D

Hubby has two daughters and a son in and around Camrose.
 

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