Im Lookin at a Paint Registerd with the APHA

[HAY MAKER]

Haymaker, did you know that SSAP, who is a member of this forum
raisies Paints? You might send her a PM and she could tell you about
the breeding of the horse you are interested in.

Good luck.

Yes I know who she is, wonder where she is kinda hard to tell with her she has had about 1/2 dozen user names
If she was closer I sure would hafta start being nicer to her I think she does have a paint I would be interested in, maybe i can get her to trailer one to Texas and take her honky tonking ...........on secong thought maybe not she get down here and get to liking it and try to cold trail me ever where
good luck

If you're payin' Haymaker ... we'll talk :shock: We'll swing by Texan's and see if that old coot can keep up with us
Kinda surprised that you'd even consider it after that little slip when I did the surgery on you Sure hope you've recovered enough to cowboy up :wink:

About the horse in question - sire was homozygous - sired 70+ foals over a 9 yr period - none with APHA points but that hardly means anything - could have been darn good usin horses or with assoc earnings (NRHA, NCHA etc). I had to go way back to recognize anything on the top side. The Dam being a AQHA, I didn't find anything on her (have already used up my monthly freebie allotment on the AQHA site). Nice mix on the mare's pedigree. The mare for sale has 3 full-sibs (1 mare/2 colts)

I do have a bit of a hangup with homozygous horses .... for so many years that's all they bred for - the homozygous line - I've seen a pile of poor conformation (which does lend to poor attitudes because of soundness/pain). You might want to have radiographs done for joint/bone problems if the training/riding program is unknown. Who knows, she might be a good deal - pedigree isn't a guarantee for anything.

Here's my ponies - http://southshadow.homestead.com/Horse.html - but you'll have to wait for the delivery. A tornado picked up our truck and 28' aluminum trailer and totalled both off - hubby walked away with only a black eye. Finding a replacement dually is not going so well. General concensous (sp) is we shouldn't get another Eby - need a good heavy Norbert I think!!!!!!!

Yup, Im payin, I hope you do come down here it will take me a very short
time to have you folllowin me around like a cow dog pup, matter of fact to prove it i will post a picture of you pulling my boots off and fetchin my whiskey
good luck

Ps Thanks for the information on the mare

 

[HAY MAKER]

Well since SSAP is pretending she has'nt seen this I believe the answer to who can keep up is obvious the old coot vs the granny...... Old coot wins hands down :lol:
Good luck girl

 

[S.S.A.P.]

Well since SSAP is pretending she has'nt seen this I believe the answer to who can keep up is obvious the old coot vs the granny...... Old coot wins hands down :lol:
Good luck girl

Well at your age I would hope you should be able to beat me at pulling off YOUR own damn boots and gettin' YOUR own whiskey. I did chuckle when I read that ... people that know me would not even dare ask!!! Unless you are one of my grandkids or in my home having a snort :wink:

 

[S.S.A.P.]

Is that the second trailer trashed by the wind?

Yes - one week short of 2 years since the first one. This time it didn't get mangled as much - being hooked to the dually slowed it down some. The truck is actually beat up way worse than the trailer. He's wishing he would have left the heifers on another 10 mins. He remembers seeing the trailer sideways in the rear view and then feeling the back of the truck lifting - an upside down nose dive slowed things down .... then the truck rolled back onto its wheels. The trailer actually righted itself while he was standing with the RCMP officer.

We didn't get it at home - he was about 30 miles north on the #21. We heard it hit two farm yards after that - with some major damages. Just weird $h!t happening right across Canada this season. :?

 

[S.S.A.P.]

Well, that's the pitts. Glad that no one was injured! What kind of
dually are you looking for? Hope you get everything back together soon.

I agree with you about the homozyous paints. Some of what they carry
can be nasty to deal with. Not for me....too bad some breeders did
anything for color. A rancher in Wyoming years back had a lot of Leo
bred mares and those mares sometimes threw the odd white~this was
before APHA~and he'd give those to his hands. There were some
SWEEEEEET horses that he gave away. Pretty, plus lots of ability!

A Duramax 2012 1 ton - there are a few in northern Alberta but the lots won't release them to our local dealer. The used ones we've come across online aren't worth the drive to look at, as far as we can tell.

I like the Leo line - they had some substance and bone. I bet those cropouts Quarters were dandies!!!!

So sorry to hear about the damage from the tornado, SSAP, though I'm really glad nobody was seriously injured.

Really enjoyed your website; you have a very nice set of horses and good looking cattle. A lot colder country than I'm used to, though.

When looking through your mares I did a little bit of a double take; a fellow named Joe Taylor in Utah has raised a bunch of quarter horse mares named Mexicali (something): Mexicali Promise, Mexicali Princess, Mexicali Champagne, Mexicali Countess, Mexicali Martini, and on and on.... I thought you might have bought the mare from him. When I checked her out in more detail, though, it doesn't look like they are bred the same way, so I think it might be just coincidence.

I've only run across a handful of homozygous tobiano horses to which I would have liked to breed some of my mares. Spoon Jet was one of them; Preminitions Tramp and Ima Switch Hitter were pretty nice, too. I'm sure there are more of them out there, but those are the only ones that really come to mind. And I've seen a lot of them advertised (mares, too...). But usually, when I see homozygous tobiano as the headline of an ad, implying that being homozygous is the best thing the horse has going for it, it turns me off more than anything else. Kind of like perlinos/cremellos and horses advertised as homozygous black (or homozygous anything, really).... Not that there aren't any good ones out there, because there certainly are; but the vast majority of them are just horses. Just not my cup of tea, I guess, after seeing too many horses that were very apparently bred primarily for color, with quality not the highest priority...

Thanks for visiting our site. The Mexicali mare we picked up from Parsonages at 14 yrs of age. She was a good producer for us - we lost her in early Jan but have two producing daughters to replace her.

I don't follow halter or Western Pleasure lines so I'm not familar with the horses you named. I'd heard of Switch Hitter, mostly likely something in the Paint Horse Journal. But I don't even get that anymore for the above reason. I looked up Spoon Jet - I think I'd like him I don't mind a shot of halter or WP, a little versatility doesn't hurt and a lot of those horses are capable of other events - the owners (of the promoted ones) just take them in one direction and one direction only. I was Stewart at a show on the weekend and realized I would never make a good judge ... that nose-dragging 4 beat lope the WP'ers do ... well it just baffles me :? :shock: It has to take hours and hours to get a horse to move like that.

 

[HAY MAKER]

Probably did baffle you "STEWARD" unless you changed your last name ?
:lol: good luck

 

[Chimenea]

Thanks for visiting our site. The Mexicali mare we picked up from Parsonages at 14 yrs of age. She was a good producer for us - we lost her in early Jan but have two producing daughters to replace her.

I don't follow halter or Western Pleasure lines so I'm not familar with the horses you named. I'd heard of Switch Hitter, mostly likely something in the Paint Horse Journal. But I don't even get that anymore for the above reason. I looked up Spoon Jet - I think I'd like him I don't mind a shot of halter or WP, a little versatility doesn't hurt and a lot of those horses are capable of other events - the owners (of the promoted ones) just take them in one direction and one direction only. I was Stewart at a show on the weekend and realized I would never make a good judge ... that nose-dragging 4 beat lope the WP'ers do ... well it just baffles me :? :shock: It has to take hours and hours to get a horse to move like that.

You're welcome; it was my pleasure, actually. I really enjoyed learning about your ranch and stock.

Yeah, Spoon Jet was pretty cool. The paint mare my daughter rides is out of a daughter of his, and by a son of Gold Chunk. She's been a really good mare for us. I've been around a handful of other Spoon Jet horses, and have a good friend that used him a lot. He says they were all pretty good horses, and a lot of them had pretty good speed. And you'd like Preminitions Tramp if you like the versatility horses. Preminitions Tramp is by Mr Tramp, who was only racing points shy of an APHA Supreme Championship. Big, pretty horse that could do it all. And Preminitions Tramp's dam is by Sacred Indian, who's sired jumping and all around type horses that are pretty nice. Preminitions Tramp is known as a sire of all around, tobiano horses that will stand up and compete against anybody in halter, which is rare; most of the really successful halter horses are overos.

And I couldn't agree with you more about the western pleasure garbage. Not only have a lot of the western pleasure specialists morphed into skinny, rinky-dink horses that couldn't hold a full grown cow on the end of a rope, the first time I saw a horse warming up at a show (at a lope), I thought he was limping. And that walk??? Seriously??? It's a good thing they do that in an arena, because I'd hate to try to get anywhere riding at that pace. I'm not one to ride cold backed horses, but I don't like slow, pokey horses much better than I do the broncs (except for putting under kids and guests, I guess...). That whole "race to see who goes the slowest" deal just isn't my gig, I guess. Why in the world anybody would think it's a pleasure to ride a horse at those gaits (or watch one...) is beyond me, but to each his (or her) own, I guess... I was really glad to see the AQHA come up with the Ranch Pleasure class, though... maybe they'll judge that one according to what's actualy a pleasure to ride while you actually have to get something done more than a couple hundred yards away...

Alright, off my soap box. Glad you were able to keep a couple daughters of your good mare. Several of our good mares are starting to get a little up there in age, and we're trying to do the same thing: raise a couple of good replacement daughters (by outside horses, in our case) to keep back as replacements for their mommas for when the inevitable finally happens.

Cheers!