WVGenetics
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Good luck to you and your KSU Wildcats today. Should be a great game in Morgantown, but I hope we are the ones that come out on top! Lets GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!
jigs said:but I am ready to play Bama....
we have a lot of ball between now and the end of the year, but I am ready to play Bama....
jigs said:bsed on the ESPN love, we need OU to beat Notre Lame, and some one to pick off Oregon....although, if Oregon and KSU are the only two undefeateds, will they take Oregon and a one loss SEC team over an undefeated KSU ??? I fear they would.
jigs said:bsed on the ESPN love, we need OU to beat Notre Lame, and some one to pick off Oregon....although, if Oregon and KSU are the only two undefeateds, will they take Oregon and a one loss SEC team over an undefeated KSU ??? I fear they would.
A Kansas State player could win the Heisman. Just wrapping my brain around that concept makes my head hurt.
A Kansas State player from Loveland, Colo., who essentially had to prove himself to two coaches before getting on the field. A Kansas State player who at the beginning of 2011 was an afterthought. Since the kickoff of that season, Collin Klein has accounted for 64 touchdowns and is 17-3 as a starter.
Klein could win the Heisman because, to this point, two things keep happening -- defenses can't stand up to him and Heisman challengers keep dropping off the map.
The Geno Smith we fawned over earlier this season is done, kaput as a candidate, a victim of a one-trick philosophy at West Virginia. Alabama's AJ McCarron has yet to throw an interception, but there is a sizable portion of the population who believe even you or I could quarterback the nation's No. 1 team. Manti Te'o is a fine story -- Notre Dame's best offensive weapon in some games -- but does anyone really believe a defensive player is going to win the Heisman?
As we enter Week 9, the Stiff Arm is Klein's to lose -- and that is amazing. Alabama players are supposed to win Heismans. Kansas State players are supposed to show up for weekly Tuesday interviews in slacks and blazers. Nevertheless, K-State should be favored in every game it plays the rest of the way. The Wildcats also have a legitimate shot to make the championship game.
Yes, all of it comes with the usual disclaimer. The fall can be quick and precipitous. Those two L's in Klein's Christian name? Same number of L's on West Virginia's season all of a sudden.
This happened once before at Kansas State. QB Michael Bishop led the Wildcats to the Big 12 championship game in 1998. In a regular-season game between the top two Heisman vote getters, K-State trounced Texas 48-7 while smothering Ricky Williams. Williams still won the Heisman. Bishop was second.
But to this day, that's not what bothers Bill Snyder. Halfway through the fourth quarter 14 years ago, the Wildcats were comfortably ahead of Texas A&M in that Big 12 title game. With a conference title and national championship shot minutes away, Bishop fumbled and everything changed. The Aggies rallied, tied it in regulation and won in overtime. They made a movie about the guy who caught the winning touchdown pass -- Sirr Parker.
Snyder called it the worst thing he's ever had to endure.
So no one in Manhattan is making reservations for New York or a BCS bowl just yet. The painful memories remind them that it can all blow up in a second. But for now, Klein is doing what neither defenses nor Heisman challengers have been able to do -– keep his feet under him. West Virginia on Saturday night looked like it spent the week on fall break instead of breaking down film. And clearly there is enough film of the Mountaineers now that they have been outscored 104-28 the last two weeks.
Was it any different when Tim Tebow was around? That seems to be the best comparison at this point. You know what's coming and still can't stop it.
They are/were both bulldozers. They are both deep thinkers. They are equally spiritual. The difference? Klein wasn't a five-star schoolboy recruit. Klein was coveted by Utah and Colorado State. No one really knows how much. Former Kansas State coach Ron Prince took him as a drop-back quarterback, then he was fired. Snyder 2.0 gave Klein a shot only after he paid his dues as a receiver and special-teams player.
There are no doubt great stories behind Klein. His dad Doug gave up college coaching to raise his children. Doug Klein had once coached with a young Bob Stoops at Kent State.
"There are pieces and parts of it I miss a lot," Collin's dad said of coaching. "The people, the kids. You cannot duplicate game day. You cannot duplicate a locker room. You can search the ends of the earth and you will never find what those guys have at Kansas State now."
Other great stories we would love to unearth: The co-offensive coordinators -- Dana Dimel and Del Miller -- are each in their third go-round with Snyder. But the head coach doesn't allow his assistants to talk to the media -- maybe not at all, for all we know. Bishop was sequestered in a similar way in '98.
Klein will have to let his play speak for itself. And that might be enough because he and the Wildcats are good enough. With six weeks to go in the season, they have to avoid becoming a 1998 re-run.
jigs said:that aTm game is a haunted game for Cat fans....it stings like bloody murder. but, that is why we play the games..... IF, we win out, I really like our chances vs Bama....