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Johanns says House version of COOL is "workable"

By John Gregerson on 7/30/2007 for Meatingplace.com


A proposal for country-of-origin labeling set to be added to the House version of the 2007 farm bill is more "workable" than the original law, Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns told Dow Jones.

"We have only begun to look at this, but I would say…it seems that this is a better approach."

The measure creates three categories of labeling: one that indicates product was born, raised and slaughtered in the United States; one that indicates product was not exclusively born, raised and slaughtered in the U.S.; and one that includes products entirely derived from foreign countries. Ground meat product can be labeled with a list of countries where product may have originated.

American Meat Institute President J. Patrick Boyle said last week he believes the proposal may "address problems associated with the 2002 COOL mandate."
 
Johanns will be trumped by Bush, House version will be trumped by the Senate version. Then you wonder why I don't see the significance in COOL!

Cattle producers need help! All we are doing is helping the lawyers and politicians fill their pockets.

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Ben Roberts
 
Kato, would you, or would you not, agree that Sec. Johanns comment "we have only begun to look at this".......is in reference to the new, proposed changes to the law and the rules of so called "COOL"?


mrj
 
Sandhusker said:
Johanns hasn't said much about COOL. It's the price supports that he's got a problem with.
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My understanding was that it was the NCBA/AMI/USDA plan to give up M-COOL, knowing it was going to pass one way or another (92% of voters/houswives/consumers speaks loudly to politicians)-- but their main battle was to keep any Packer ownership/competition laws out of this Farm Bill.....
 
COOL has always been workable,its that just that certian companys thought that COOL records would kill their bottum line. ScoringAg.com has asset management records to prove COOL and FDA recordkeeping nomatter the country you live in or ship to. And yes 92% of voters/houswives/consumers speaks loudly to politicians, as we planned we have a website ready for COOL www.traceback.com
 
William Kanitz said:
COOL has always been workable,its that just that certian companys thought that COOL records would kill their bottum line. ScoringAg.com has asset management records to prove COOL and FDA recordkeeping nomatter the country you live in or ship to. And yes 92% of voters/houswives/consumers speaks loudly to politicians, as we planned we have a website ready for COOL www.traceback.com.


Is it fact that ScoringAg.com has their system patented, and will be the only business allowed to provide this necessary service with any level of efficiency?

Does that pose problems as a monopoly?

Just curious. I really like the fact that there is do-able, efficient, more or less 'fool' proof system, but am greatly concerned about the APPARENT absolute monopoly, and would love to hear, convincingly, that it is NOT.

mrj
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William Kanitz said:
COOL has always been workable,its that just that certian companys thought that COOL records would kill their bottum line. ScoringAg.com has asset management records to prove COOL and FDA recordkeeping nomatter the country you live in or ship to. And yes 92% of voters/houswives/consumers speaks loudly to politicians, as we planned we have a website ready for COOL www.traceback.com
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voters- maybe 30%
housewives- maybe 10%
consumers- 100%

92% of how many people were survived?

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Ben Roberts
 
Yes MRJ ,our UNIX system and code is patented . MRJ Quote;Does that pose problems as a monopoly? No, the world has many IT engineers and if they can put together $40 million in funds ,they can invent a better or a competing system then ours.

There are other recordkeeping systems out but the cost from field to fork is the most important aspect. In order to move product and transfer only the required recordkeeping depending on the country's food safety laws ,you have to keep the costs down to $0.0025 per unit sold at retail,whether a pound of beef or lamb in all countries.

This also includes canned products that may have 8-12 ingredients all needing full traceback to the source and third party verification. Think about the Castleberry recall we have on going . Their canned hash has many ingredients including beef and as for now will recall everything because of insufficient recordkeeping and testing records.

We are adding new professionals everyday in our contact page on www.scoringag.com and these people help us to better our existing software and work within their own industry's from ranching to running a farmer's market in Botswanna or downtown Alabany New York. I hope that answers your questions.
Ben ,we have roughly 2-5% in active agriculture here in North America but we we have 100% consumers to deal with. We also have lawyers on every street corner and you have to protect your assets. Only good records will do that.
 
William Kanitz said:
Ben ,we have roughly 2-5% in active agriculture here in North America but we we have 100% consumers to deal with. We also have lawyers on every street corner and you have to protect your assets. Only good records will do that.
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William Kanitz, your answer did not answer my question. How many people were in your survey, for you to come up with 92%.

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Ben Roberts
 
92% of how many people were survived? Your Question doesn't make common sense ,explain yourself .Ben , we don't do surveys ,Do You? Anything I post is revealent to what I read somewhere else.
 
William Kanitz said:
And yes 92% of voters/houswives/consumers speaks loudly to politicians, as we planned we have a website ready for COOL www.traceback.com
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William Kanitz, When you made the above statement, was this 92% figure taken from, 10, 100, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000 or 1,000,000 people? If it was taken from anything less 100,000, I doubt it would speak loudly to politicians.

Now does my question make common sense to you? And no! I don't do surveys, for this very reason, most of them are meaningless unless you are trying to sell something to the public. That they would not ordinarily buy.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts
 
W.K., thanks for answering my question.

Ben R., I believe the 92% figure was either O.T.'s, of from the story at the beginning of the thread, wasn't it? Then W.K. also used it on page 1, I believe.

mrj
 
"Opponents of COOL have now resorted to scare tactics and intimidation in a desperate attempt to derail the law," continued Beer. "It is very important for producers and consumers to stay focused on truth and fact as we proceed with the rule-writing comment period. I encourage producers and consumers to stay engaged and get comments submitted before the Aug. 20 deadline. The U.S. Cattlemen's Association has established a COOL Library at www.uscattlemen.org where a host of information can be found, including talking points that can be used to develop individual written comments along with how to submit comments to USDA."

Now is the time to write.
 

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