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Johnny Football Good To Go

I was shocked to see Lou Holtz rip the kid up and down.... it could tear apart the aTm team at the seams if they don't get the kid's ego in check...
 
No, I imagine they have plenty to say.

But if your kicking the crap out of the foot ball team from little sisters of the poor school, does it really matter what they are saying?

They aren't in the spot light, he is.

It wasn't the trash talking that turned me, it was the finger gestures of show me the money after scoring.

It's Rice.... give the boy a cookie for scoring against Rice. :roll:

He just made himself look like an idiot and A&M probably lost a lot of potential fans.
 
Mike said:
Nobody here knows what the other players were saying to him..... :roll:

Well whatever was said he's going to here a lot of it all year and he had to know that. You think this is the first time someone has talked a little smack in a football game Mike? :roll: When you have his kind of profile he knows all the attention is on him. He should be using that to his advantage not taunting players of the opposing team.
 
I was tickled to see Lou get worked up. The kid might have all kinds of God given talent, but when it comes to brains, he's riding the short bus.

The story I read said he needed the $7500 for new rims on his Mercedes. RIMS? REALLY?

Johnny is like an out of control 3 or 4 year old stud horse. There is only one way to get his attention. Hurt him. Not physically, but bench his ash or suspend him from the team for a period of time. Give him something to think about.
 
I was tickled to see Lou get worked up. The kid might have all kinds of God given talent, but when it comes to brains, he's riding the short bus.

The story I read said he needed the $7500 for new rims on his Mercedes. RIMS? REALLY?

Johnny is like an out of control 3 or 4 year old stud horse. There is only one way to get his attention. Hurt him. Not physically, but bench his ash or suspend him from the team for a period of time. Give him something to think about.
 
3 M L & C said:
Mike said:
Nobody here knows what the other players were saying to him..... :roll:

Well whatever was said he's going to here a lot of it all year and he had to know that. You think this is the first time someone has talked a little smack in a football game Mike? :roll: When you have his kind of profile he knows all the attention is on him. He should be using that to his advantage not taunting players of the opposing team.

When somebody says something derogatory to a 20 year kid he's gonna have a comeback. ESPN lied about the autograph deal to create the Manziel controversy for ratings. Now everyone has jumped on the "Hate Manziel" bandwagon I guess maybe except me.

I just see him as a young talented player with a bunch of jealous people trying to get under his skin...............

He reminds me of Bo Jackson when he was at Auburn. He didn't want to lift weights and didn't want to practice so others saw him as a prima donna. He was just the opposite and Coach Dye was the only one to understand his reasoning.

Just let the Manziel kid play football. He's good at it.
 
Mike said:
3 M L & C said:
Mike said:
Nobody here knows what the other players were saying to him..... :roll:

Well whatever was said he's going to here a lot of it all year and he had to know that. You think this is the first time someone has talked a little smack in a football game Mike? :roll: When you have his kind of profile he knows all the attention is on him. He should be using that to his advantage not taunting players of the opposing team.

When somebody says something derogatory to a 20 year kid he's gonna have a comeback. ESPN lied about the autograph deal to create the Manziel controversy for ratings. Now everyone has jumped on the "Hate Manziel" bandwagon I guess maybe except me.

I just see him as a young talented player with a bunch of jealous people trying to get under his skin...............

He reminds me of Bo Jackson when he was at Auburn. He didn't want to lift weights and didn't want to practice so others saw him as a prima donna. He was just the opposite and Coach Dye was the only one to understand his reasoning.

Just let the Manziel kid play football. He's good at it.

I was young once Mike, I was pretty good at baseball. I also was by far the smallest scrawniest kid on the team. I heard a lot of gum flapping about my size and what they thought was a lack of ability. I never pointed to the scoreboard after a hit or ran my mouth for throwing someone out. So that statement is a bit off that all 20 year olds spout off. You don't think anyone ever tried to talk trash to Peyton Manning? I never remember him ever doing anything like this. Also he is not the best college player to ever live. There has been plenty others that were really good and others were jealous of. The fact is that he is out of control. If his dad even said so back a while I think that is pretty much the case.

He is great at football, and is pretty fun to watch play after the ball hikes. Problem is there is a patern here and he doesn't seem to learn anything. He can't play football forever, then what is acting like a knothead going to do for him?
 
He can't play football forever, then what is acting like a knothead going to do for him?

I don't know and I don't really care. But he is playing now and some are coming down too hard on him. Let the boy play and if he gets himself in trouble what do we care?

I simply enjoy seeing talent on the field whether he's a spoiled brat or not.

Wait and see, if he has a phenomenal year and is up for the Heisman again, ESPN will lobby against him. They have ruined some careers in their day.
 
I agree he is fun to watch. But his antics are going to cost the team. I mean someone with that attitude just can't turn it off when he wants. A penalty like that could cost them the game against a team like Alabama. Talking trash to Rice just makes him look dumb.
 
I have to disagree Mike, I love good football...and Johnny Mugshot is a good player. but hey are STUDENT athletes.... and there has to be a life outside football for him to fall back on.... these coaches need to raise MEN first, ball players second.

if I owned a pro ball team, would I want Johnny??? probably. would I want him near my kids as an influence?? hell no...Barry Sanders, Jordy Nelson, Walter Payton...these are men who make a difference in the world PLUS play football.... those are the types we need to reward, not spoiled ignorant asses who won't grow up or learn a lesson
 
Like I said before, nobody here knows what Johnny said. :lol:

Well guess what? One of the Rice players defended him:
Nick Elder- I was the one who johnny was talking too. He said "what's up nick, nice hit." True story

31 Aug 2013

Ya'll have fallen into a trap by ESPN. :lol: :lol:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/08/31/johnny-manziel-issued-unsportsmanlike-penalty-criticized-on-espn/2751639/

Johnny Manziel apparently committed the first unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in the history of college football.

He's surely the only Texas A&M player to ever soil the great university's name by mildly taunting an opponent. No wonder why Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin put him in timeout, treating the Heisman Trophy winner who torpedoed the Aggies onto the SEC map like a petulant preschooler.

"Well that wasn't very smart," Sumlin huffed to ESPN cameras about the most ridiculous Johnny Manziel controversy yet. "And he didn't go back in the game either. You hope at this point that he would have learned something from that. That's why he wasn't going back in the game no matter what happened."

OK, Coach . . . Grandstand much?


Sumlin's doing Manziel a great, needless disservice by throwing fire on a little incident that ESPN already tried to blow up into one of the great moral failings of our time.

Look, I've always liked Kevin Sumlin, from well back into his still-underrated University of Houston coaching days. And what he did in Texas A&M's first season in the SEC is one of the all-time great coaching jobs ever. But Sumlin's doing Manziel a great, needless disservice by throwing fire on a little incident that ESPN's announcing team already tried to blow up into one of the great moral failings of our time.

And for a coach who long defended Johnny Manziel's off-field antics, it reeks of finally playing to the cameras and the fools who are dying to see him scold Johnny Football.

Yes, Manziel barked gleefully at a few Rice University defensive players and pointed to the scoreboard after throwing his third touchdown pass of the second half (out of only eight passes overall). Yes, it cost his team 15 yards in an eventual 52-31 sloppy win for the seventh-ranked team in America. Yes, he didn't need to do it.

So what.

Manziel didn't do it a critical juncture in the game. He didn't really hurt his team in any truly tangible way. And it's absurd to suggest this one measly unsportsmanlike conduct penalty indicates that Johnny Manziel is completely out of control.

Johnny Manziel Witch Hunt 101

Of course, ESPN's game announcing crew stridently advanced all those notions in the wake of the great taunt.

ESPN's voices declared that it shows Johnny Manziel's "lack of class," that he has "no thought of consequences" and that it's like he cluelessly "lives in a little bubble."

No, it's like he's a 20-year-old college kid who is enjoying playing college football again.

Johnny Manziel lived through an autograph "scandal" this summer that included tons of breathless reports (many from the Worldwide Leader) and almost nothing the NCAA apparently could prove. He's routinely dissected and probed more than any Miley Cyrus twerk. Heck, he'd been turned from Johnny Football to Johnny Halftime in another absurd NCAA ruling.


In almost two years of Johnny Football a meaningless 15-yard penalty is the stupidest thing you've ever seen? Have to call BS on that one.

The man deserved to let loose a little. And give back a touch of what he's been getting.

Manziel dutifully wears a white visor and flips a white towel over his shoulder to watch the first half the NCAA barred them from playing in. Even as every camera in the stadium and everyone in the crowd of 86,000 plus that endured the heat cranes to get a look at him.

Rice University did coach Dave Bailiff more than proud by how hard and offensively well it played against a true national championship contender. But the Owls players also rightly gave Manziel some grief over his love of signing autographs for some shady characters.

There were plenty of air signatures at Kyle Field Saturday. They were flashed at Johnny Manziel and he did some right back. Manziel even rubbed his fingers together over his head, which some took as a sign that he was jokingly asking for cash.

Sumlin didn't object to any of it, until the referees elected to call a mild penalty, opening the door for some ESPN indignation.

"God damn, that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life," Sumlin reportedly barked at Manziel as he trotted off the field.

Really? In almost two years of Johnny Football a meaningless 15-yard penalty is the stupidest thing you've ever seen? Have to call BS on that one.

This was simply a moment for Kevin Sumlin to look tough on TV. Texas A&M's coach is now playing to the cameras just as much as Johnny Manziel. He's suspending defensive players for meaningless games, making sure everyone is back for Alabama Sept. 14.

Sumlin — who stood strong during all those Johnny Manziel party stories and rightly insisted it was all no big deal — has now fallen into the trap of acting like fools on TV think a big-time college football coach should act. It's a sad transformation to see.

Johnny Manziel and Kevin Sumlin are both nobody's puppets. One of the reasons Texas A&M football is suddenly so fascinating — and so good — is that Manziel and Sumlin stood together and scoffed at all those ridiculous preconceived notions that lord over the game.

Now Sumlin's given in and thrown his quarterback under the bus a little. All to please the TV wolves. Texas A&M's coach didn't have to make the taunting penalty a bigger story than it already was destined to be. He sure didn't have to make it worse by once again declaring Johnny Manziel off limits to the media and refusing to let the Heisman winner who's done so much for Texas A&M (and Sumlin) speak for himself after the game.

This is a rare weak, grandstanding play from Kevin Sumlin. And you can be sure it's going to hurt Texas A&M in the end more than Johnny Manziel's silliest penalty.
 
Or maybe he's trying to nip this in the bud before other players on the team that think they are as good as Manzeil decide to act like a moron an cost the team.
 
3 M L & C said:
Or maybe he's trying to nip this in the bud before other players on the team that think they are as good as Manzeil decide to act like a moron an cost the team.
Admit it. You and others have taken the ESPN bait. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Mike said:
3 M L & C said:
Or maybe he's trying to nip this in the bud before other players on the team that think they are as good as Manzeil decide to act like a moron an cost the team.
Admit it. You and others have taken the ESPN bait. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well hey ESPN helped him to win the heisman so if they bring a little extra heat to him I'm ok with that. :lol:
 
3 M L & C said:
Mike said:
3 M L & C said:
Or maybe he's trying to nip this in the bud before other players on the team that think they are as good as Manzeil decide to act like a moron an cost the team.
Admit it. You and others have taken the ESPN bait. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well hey ESPN helped him to win the heisman so if they bring a little extra heat to him I'm ok with that. :lol:
:agree:
 
Come on now mike. usatoday reporters are the expert on bs and lack any type of understanding in how to manage 70 some odd late teen to early 20 something year old boys that think they are invincible. The coach is a winner, the reporter wishes he could do what sumlin does do- actually be a factor in the game and not just try to comment on it.

Everybody needs a story to write so that paper can be filled up. I've never known a coach to blow off a dumb penalty. This guy is an idiot to try to say anything else. And to criticize suspending guys during nothing games to get their attention, I can't read any more.... seriously.

The kid is being dumb. He needs to get it together, act like a winner if you think you are one.
 
It's a game for God's Sake. What some of ya'll don't know is almost the entire student section of the Rice fans wore a T-shirt with a big autograph of Johnny with a few derogatory scribbles thrown in it.

The Rice band is known to taunt the opposing team in some way or another in almost every game. Last year the Rice band formed a big "SEC" on the field but substituted the "S" with the $Dollar$ sign.

Now I ask you. Who was taunting who?

Let these kids have fun is all I say.................................

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/headlines/20130901-rice-band-mocked-johnny-manziel-wore-t-shirts-of-his-signature.ece
By SPORTSDAYDFW.COM

Published: 01 September 2013 10:15 PM

Updated: 01 September 2013 10:15 PM


Johnny Manziel has an excuse for in-game antics on Saturday. Rice started it.

Well, to be clear, Rice's band started it.

The Rice MOB pep band donned special uniforms against Texas A&M: T-shirts with Johnny Manziel's signature on it.
 
Well being an Aggie myself I know I'm biased and should just keep quiet but I thought this comment by one writer was pretty good. Now let's play some football. He'll get his knock downs before the year is over and that might remove a bit of the cockiness.


This whole Johnny hating media thing has gone beyond all reasonable thinking. I have never seen anything like this in my life. They have gone beyond having an opinion to pure hatred of a 20 year old football player. I mean seriously, he just got a taunting penalty. He did not rape or kill anyone. I think all of this is overblown and downright disgusting. We are talking about college football, for heaven's sake. I have seen sports commentators have less critical things to say about other players who were caught drinking and driving, using drugs, beating or sexually assaulting a woman or having handguns.Some of their comments are down right shameful. For the life of me I cannot figure out where all of this crap is coming from. This kid literally cannot drink from a water bottle or wipe the sweat off of his face with out some jackass finding fault in it. I just don't see why he is being held to this unachievable higher standard. No one could live up to this kind of scrutiny. It is like these grown men who work for ESPN or any other sports media outlets are getting their rocks off tearing this kid apart. Yes he is a polarizing figure and he has made mistakes, but lets get real here...........Demonizing his character is taking it way to far.
 

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