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Korea Blocks Beef...............Again

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Brakes put on U.S. beef imports
August 2nd, 2007 · Comments Off
Brakes put on U.S. beef imports

Korea Herald

Korea halted inspections of all U.S. beef imports on Wednesday, prompted by the discovery of banned bone parts in the latest shipments, the Seoul government said yesterday.

The country's quarantine authority found a box of vertebral columns among 1,176 boxes totaling 18.7 metric tons of beef imported on July 29, the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry said.

The ministry said it could place an import ban on American beef again if Washington fails to take substantial prevention measures.
 
What part of boneless beef don't you guys understand? The shippers know they can't send meat with even tiny bone fragments to Korea. Give the consumer what they want, not what you want them to want. I don't know how to explain this other than bull headed shipper wanting to prove a point and say see korea took some with bone fragments and so they should have to take beef complete bone in. is it that or is it that there is no inspection prior to export. You guys need to be out of the game until you learn how to stop dropping the ball.
 
QUESTION said:
What part of boneless beef don't you guys understand? The shippers know they can't send meat with even tiny bone fragments to Korea. Give the consumer what they want, not what you want them to want. I don't know how to explain this other than bull headed shipper wanting to prove a point and say see korea took some with bone fragments and so they should have to take beef complete bone in. is it that or is it that there is no inspection prior to export. You guys need to be out of the game until you learn how to stop dropping the ball.

Funny how you put the "You guys" in your comments. You act as though the ones on this board are making these shipments. :lol:

We have bonehead packers and inspectors turning these tricks. Not us.

I have a better idea. Test them all and REALLY ship some product.
 
"You guys" refers to the US cattle industry who wants to export US beef. Until everyone understands there are no fragments of bone is boneless beef. This is another example of why the world should not allow any US beef on the world market, until everyone in the US industry realizes there are rules that have to be followed. Maybe then export regulations will be taken seriously. If Korea followed a 3 strike program the US beef would be banned for life(50 years). Maybe it will take this sort of thing to get people to play by the rules and not try to make up thier own rules. It shows the comtempt for everyone your US beef exporters have.
 
QUESTION said:
"You guys" refers to the US cattle industry who wants to export US beef. Until everyone understands there are no fragments of bone is boneless beef. This is another example of why the world should not allow any US beef on the world market, until everyone in the US industry realizes there are rules that have to be followed. Maybe then export regulations will be taken seriously. If Korea followed a 3 strike program the US beef would be banned for life(50 years). Maybe it will take this sort of thing to get people to play by the rules and not try to make up thier own rules. It shows the comtempt for everyone your US beef exporters have.

In your haste to condemn the US beef industry, you forgot to mention that KOREA does not accept Canadian beef at all! Hasn't since 2003!

Maybe you are on a 50 year ban? :lol: :lol:

2 May 2007

SEOUL, May 2 (Yonhap) — Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay on Wednesday called on South Korea to remove its ban on Canadian beef imports, saying it could be a stumbling block in talks for a bilateral free trade agreement (FTA).

"I don't directly link the two, although it would be politically unpalatable for us to have an ongoing beef ban," the Canadian diplomat said in a press conference here.

South Korea banned Canadian beef imports in mid-2003 after a case of mad cow disease was reported in the North American country.

MacKay hoped the ban would soon be lifted, saying Foreign Minister Song Min-soon has pledged to do that while meeting with him Tuesday. "My discussions yesterday confirmed what I knew to be true."

The Canadian foreign minister said the countries are approaching a final resolution of the issue "that is going to go away very soon," adding an upcoming report by the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) should "be the turning point we've been waiting for."
 
Mike said:
QUESTION said:
"You guys" refers to the US cattle industry who wants to export US beef. Until everyone understands there are no fragments of bone is boneless beef. This is another example of why the world should not allow any US beef on the world market, until everyone in the US industry realizes there are rules that have to be followed. Maybe then export regulations will be taken seriously. If Korea followed a 3 strike program the US beef would be banned for life(50 years). Maybe it will take this sort of thing to get people to play by the rules and not try to make up thier own rules. It shows the comtempt for everyone your US beef exporters have.

In your haste to condemn the US beef industry, you forgot to mention that KOREA does not accept Canadian beef at all! Hasn't since 2003!

Maybe you are on a 50 year ban? :lol: :lol:

2 May 2007

SEOUL, May 2 (Yonhap) — Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay on Wednesday called on South Korea to remove its ban on Canadian beef imports, saying it could be a stumbling block in talks for a bilateral free trade agreement (FTA).

"I don't directly link the two, although it would be politically unpalatable for us to have an ongoing beef ban," the Canadian diplomat said in a press conference here.

South Korea banned Canadian beef imports in mid-2003 after a case of mad cow disease was reported in the North American country.

MacKay hoped the ban would soon be lifted, saying Foreign Minister Song Min-soon has pledged to do that while meeting with him Tuesday. "My discussions yesterday confirmed what I knew to be true."

The Canadian foreign minister said the countries are approaching a final resolution of the issue "that is going to go away very soon," adding an upcoming report by the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) should "be the turning point we've been waiting for."

I was told that the world sees Canada and the US as the same? You're telling me I was told wrong? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
It is a good thing it is still too wet to get things done this morning. So here we go Canada doesn't have FTA with Korea so they aren't forced to take beef. They closed the border in 03 and haven't opened it since. Canada has not been caught shipping banned beef products anywhere in the world. Because of you FTA with korea and the trade defict they have with your country they are force to take beef because they want to sell the US many goods . That is not the situation with canada. Good try to compare oranges and patatoes. Trade involves alot more than beef so take the blinders off. I see you people are trying to make a point but in reality there is no point to be made. The US is big and knows it but being a bully has it's has it's drawback. I just hope being a neighbor to a bully doesn't get canada hurt.
 
We have bonehead packers and inspectors turning these tricks. Not us.

I have a better idea. Test them all and REALLY ship some product.
quote]

Excellent idea everything should be tested in Canada and the US.Then there will no more b*tch'ng.And no second guessing.
SO why is this not being done?
Big Business.Alot of people are getting rich off the backs of producers.
 
QUESTION said:
It is a good thing it is still too wet to get things done this morning. So here we go Canada doesn't have FTA with Korea so they aren't forced to take beef. They closed the border in 03 and haven't opened it since. Canada has not been caught shipping banned beef products anywhere in the world. Because of you FTA with korea and the trade defict they have with your country they are force to take beef because they want to sell the US many goods . That is not the situation with canada. Good try to compare oranges and patatoes. Trade involves alot more than beef so take the blinders off. I see you people are trying to make a point but in reality there is no point to be made. The US is big and knows it but being a bully has it's has it's drawback. I just hope being a neighbor to a bully doesn't get canada hurt.

You know if you ever got anything correct we'd give you the kewpie doll :lol: :lol: The US does not have an FTA with Korea.... :dunce:
 
Beef News
S. Korea suspends quarantine inspections of U.S. beef

By Tom Johnston on 8/2/2007 for Meatingplace.com



The U.S. Meat Export Federation says it's a critical distinction that South Korea has suspended inspections and not trade of U.S. beef following the discovery of banned spinal tissue in a Seoul-bound shipment of the product.

However, USMEF spokesman Lynn Heinze told Meatingplace.com, the next several days are going to be crucial as more and more U.S. beef collects at Korean ports and warehouses.

"A lot of product has landed, cleared, and is still on the way," he said. "It's a matter of resuming quarantine inspections so that product can move."

Meantime, Washington is working to meet Korea's demand for an explanation of how pieces of vertebral column found their way into a box of U.S. beef that arrived in Seoul on July 29. Seoul also is asking that U.S. officials take measures to prevent future such infractions.

Mark Klein, spokesman for Wichita, Kan.-based Cargill Meat Solutions, told Meatingplace.com the processor shipped to Seoul 41,128 pounds of beef labeled beef chuck eye roll, including a 37.6-lb. box containing a single cut of bone-in short loin. Seoul has suspended imports from Cargill's Friona, Texas, beef plant.

"Cargill currently is investigating how this might have happened," Klein said, noting that the company is cooperating with USDA and South Korean officials as they conduct their own investigations.

Definition discrepancy

Heinze said it's important that Korean quarantine officials emphasize to local media that U.S. product that has cleared inspection is safe, and noted there is a discrepancy between how Seoul and OIE define specified risk materials. In this case, the spinal cord had been removed; only the bone remained, he noted.

"That's another important distinction," Heinze said. "The problem is that at the time our current agreement was approved in March, there was still debate about how to properly define SRMs. According to Korean officials, the spinal column qualified as an SRM. But, as indicated by the quarantine service's statements, they recognize the OIE definition is very different from theirs and they're working on adopting OIE standards.

"We need to move away from the boneless standard, because it's virtually impossible to meet," he added.

South Korea's National Veterinary Research and Quarantine Service said it also suspended imports from three other U.S. beef plants on July 31 after discovering bone-in short rib from three boxes that arrived sometime between July 22 and July 27.

However, USDA Deputy Press Secretary Corinne Hirsch told Meatingplace.com, "I don't think that's been confirmed. We haven't heard that at all."

Steve Norton, spokesman for the U.S. Trade Representative, told Meatingplace the latest incident shouldn't stick a fork in the KORUS free-trade agreement.

"It doesn't change the big picture, which is that Korea's president has committed to adopting import protocols that reflect OIE standards," he said. "And I think Korea knows full well that Congress is unlikely to approve the FTA so long as its beef market remains inappropriately closed to U.S. beef."



http://www.meatingplace.com/MembersOnly/webNews/details.aspx?item=18567



STANLEY PRUSINER NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER ON THE PRION SLAMS USDA ON BSE

US AG SEC AND LAYCRAFT

"nothing ELSE matters, except beef from canada under 30 months bones beef
product, that's ALL THAT MATTERS!"


STAN THE MAN

question for stan ;

is this a demonstrated threat to public health safety ?

stan states ;

yes i think they (prions) are bad to eat, and you can die from them.


http://maddeer.org/video/embedded/08snip.ram



TSS
 
OT check again the US does has a trade agreement with Korea. That is why the koreans were protesting this spring or don't you watch the world news. The koreans are forced to take US beef because of a trade defict with the US , sorry we canadians don't have the same advantage. why do people want to play these silly games?does the US have acess to tiawan? Korea has warned US exporters of zero tolerence for bone fragments and what did they find this time - part of a spinal colum without the spinal chord . Ok that is SRM not just bone it really wouldn't suprize me that the koreans slam their border shut to all US beef. The fact is your korean consumer said it only wanted boneless beef why can't your exporters accept it. Maybe they need a remedial reading couse. And as far as telling korea they are going to have to accept it is too hard to eliminate bone. Go ahead and tell korea they have to take beef with bones i have a feeling they will say OK then they don't want any US beef . That is the problem with ultimatums like take it or leave it. Korea might just decide to leave it.[/b]
 
QUESTION said:
OT check again the US does has a trade agreement with Korea. That is why the koreans were protesting this spring or don't you watch the world news. The koreans are forced to take US beef because of a trade defict with the US , sorry we canadians don't have the same advantage. why do people want to play these silly games?.[/b]


The FTA with Korea wasn't signed until June 30th, 2007- and is not law or binding until ratified by the US Congress- which hasn't happened...... :roll:
 
OT everyone sees this crap, do you know the meaning of the word contradiction. You said i was lieing that the USA did not have a FTA with Korea. And now you admit there is an FTA with Korea but it hasn't passed your goverment approval. So which is it? I will give you some time to answer and adjust you tin foil hat so you get the answer straight. :roll:
 
QUESTION said:
OT everyone sees this crap, do you know the meaning of the word contradiction. You said i was lieing that the USA did not have a FTA with Korea. And now you admit there is an FTA with Korea but it hasn't passed your goverment approval. So which is it? I will give you some time to answer and adjust you tin foil hat so you get the answer straight. :roll:

No there is no FTA-- only a proposal......
 
Oldtimer said:
QUESTION said:
OT everyone sees this crap, do you know the meaning of the word contradiction. You said i was lieing that the USA did not have a FTA with Korea. And now you admit there is an FTA with Korea but it hasn't passed your goverment approval. So which is it? I will give you some time to answer and adjust you tin foil hat so you get the answer straight. :roll:

No there is no FTA-- only a proposal......

A proposal that the Democratic Congress will not sign.

No deal ?. Try again.
 
Gee i thought if the US sent a negociator and when the deal was signed it was a deal. Just get your packers(exporters) to follow the rules as set by the customer. After all isn't the customer always right. Might it be that the koreans would have ignored the chunks of bone if the FTA was signed and passed into law, kinda convenient they didn't ignore the bone chunks. Oh well that is part of trade if it is deliberate on then koreans part it is good to see they are giving as good as they are getting. Just makes the US look more like buttholes who you can't make a deal with.
 
Oldtimer said:
QUESTION said:
OT everyone sees this crap, do you know the meaning of the word contradiction. You said i was lieing that the USA did not have a FTA with Korea. And now you admit there is an FTA with Korea but it hasn't passed your goverment approval. So which is it? I will give you some time to answer and adjust you tin foil hat so you get the answer straight. :roll:

No there is no FTA-- only a proposal......


post card from Seoul

scroll down a bit ...


http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/3940


snip...


hey there judge, just wanted to wish you and yours a gobble gobble, and a big thank you.

thanks judge!!!

your words of wisdom and by the Grace of God, something saved my ash.
the good Lord watches over stupid folks like me ;-) i been wanting to talk for so long to someone that would listen, i almost walked into an ambush.
you were correct, that beer was colder and better in bacliff, and so was that bird. you know i would have been knee deep in that mess? holy mad cow, had no idea this was going on. .........

ma and pa kettle go to s korea, and ma was not going. ......


saved at the last minute, like i said, no place like home. ..............terry


mass protest and violence in s korea ;


http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611230009.html


http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/173556.html



TSS
 
Yep--flounder the world is awakening to these FTA's and how they do nothing for the average working class/middle class...They are negotiated and made up around the principle of being for the rich to get richer.....
 
Korea can do what ever they want just like the US, if they don't want chunks of bone they can close their borders and nothing can be done until they decide to reopen the market.
 

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