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Concerned citizen
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Found this site on the internet while trying to see how to help with this situation. Here is what I emailed to each of our 3 representatives:
Sir,
Please do something about the situation. I am personally willing to donate cash to feed these horses NOW. Can you organize or set up a mechanism where people like me can call or go online and give our credit card numbers to buy feed from a supplier? Others with the ability to donate time and/or trucks could then go to where the feed is paid for and pick it up. Further, my business - Billings Window and Door 406-294-8075 - can offer a 14' cube van and a pickup truck to haul feed.
We, as Montanans, CANNOT suffer the shame of letting these horses starve to death. I am willing to help get them fed NOW and sort out the guilty parties later. Please help.
Respectfully,
Karen Winkler
406-861-8795 cell
[email protected] email at home
[email protected] email at work
If any on this website can help direct me as to where I should go next, I would greatly appreciate it.
Sir,
Please do something about the situation. I am personally willing to donate cash to feed these horses NOW. Can you organize or set up a mechanism where people like me can call or go online and give our credit card numbers to buy feed from a supplier? Others with the ability to donate time and/or trucks could then go to where the feed is paid for and pick it up. Further, my business - Billings Window and Door 406-294-8075 - can offer a 14' cube van and a pickup truck to haul feed.
We, as Montanans, CANNOT suffer the shame of letting these horses starve to death. I am willing to help get them fed NOW and sort out the guilty parties later. Please help.
Respectfully,
Karen Winkler
406-861-8795 cell
[email protected] email at home
[email protected] email at work
If any on this website can help direct me as to where I should go next, I would greatly appreciate it.
Big Muddy rancher
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What about Billings livestock. Isn't there a horse sale this weekend. If they got the word out maybe some one of influence would here.
What about the Shriners in Billings. They have the Black horse patrol that might be able to get the ball rolling on helping the horses.
Sad deal.
What about the Shriners in Billings. They have the Black horse patrol that might be able to get the ball rolling on helping the horses.
Sad deal.
Justin
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makes me sick 
Concerned citizen
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I talked to a woman named Babe at the Yellowstone Country Sheriff's Department, 657-8200, who is accepting names and phone numbers from those of us who want to help. The NILE phone number leads to a recording implying they will respond to messages left on Monday.
The comments section under the noted Gazette article shows there are many of us wanting to help. Some worry about offloading hay without providing water as they could die that way, too.
I am admittedly clueless about what can or should be done. My heart is broken that this is happening in my own backyard and I will do anything I can to help.
The comments section under the noted Gazette article shows there are many of us wanting to help. Some worry about offloading hay without providing water as they could die that way, too.
I am admittedly clueless about what can or should be done. My heart is broken that this is happening in my own backyard and I will do anything I can to help.
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The County Attorneys office should be able to use the probable cause they had to charge him to file an affidavit- and get a Court Order ordering seizure of the animals--and then Stoval could be hired- or the Sheriff/Dept of Livestock could round them up and seize them and care for them until a full blown hearing could be hold...
The cost of this could be used to file a lien against the horses- and if Leachman doesn't pay up (like thousands of other bills he owes) they could be sold and the proceeds used to "TRY" and cover those costs..
With this new horse law that went into effect Jan 1- I don't know if without a complete background knowledge of each horse if they could even be sold as canners...
Sounds like much of the problem is jurisdictional because of the sovereign nation status of the Reservation....If it wasn't on the reservation- it sounds like they could be all gathered as estrays with no problem....But the state doesn't usually get involved with issues happening on the reservation-- and the tribe has questionable jurisdiction with nontribals on the reservation....Been that way forever.....
The cost of this could be used to file a lien against the horses- and if Leachman doesn't pay up (like thousands of other bills he owes) they could be sold and the proceeds used to "TRY" and cover those costs..
With this new horse law that went into effect Jan 1- I don't know if without a complete background knowledge of each horse if they could even be sold as canners...
Sounds like much of the problem is jurisdictional because of the sovereign nation status of the Reservation....If it wasn't on the reservation- it sounds like they could be all gathered as estrays with no problem....But the state doesn't usually get involved with issues happening on the reservation-- and the tribe has questionable jurisdiction with nontribals on the reservation....Been that way forever.....
leanin' H
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Makes it hard to sell them when congress and the enviromentalists have legislation making horse slaughter illegal basically. I sure agree that folks need to take care of their stock. But when you try to put 400 plus horses through a sale ring, you'd lose money in today's climate. Out here folks turn their horses loose with the mustangs. Most die as do a lot of mustangs as the range is terribley over stocked thanks to enviromentalists and their agenda to stop roundups. The State of Montana ought to step in and either start feeding immediately or go put down the whole herd. Nature is a cruel lady but man can make things worse. Especially with idiotic laws that ban horse slaughter. :roll: We all might not agree with slaughtering horses for meat of dogfood, but atleast it gave an option to people who might not have many others.
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Whitewing said:Why would anyone let something like this happen to those animals? Sell the damned things if you can't feed them.
Leachman cancelled the sale he had planned... I'm sure he knows he couldn't even get his roundup/trucking costs back--because any check/cash he gets in his hands has 100's of people with Court Judications of Garnishment against him for unpaid bills standing there ready to take it.....
Concerned citizen
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I looked up Mr. Leachman on Anywho.com:
James H Leachman
3135 Sycamore Ln, Billings, MT 59102
406-656-1579
I was very surprised when he answered the phone and I started the conversation by asking if he needs help, financially, feeding his horses. After a few hmmms, errrrs and ummms, he said he'd been raising cattle for 37 years and was as concerned for their welfare as I obviously am. He assured me they are not starving, that the land they're on has sustained cattle since "way back when the Indians...." and took my name and phone number with a promise to call me back on Monday at the latest.
I didn't even attempt to argue with him, just said my only interest is getting them fed and watered and would help him however I can. He said he appreciated the "spirit" of my phone call.
Call me an optimist.....
James H Leachman
3135 Sycamore Ln, Billings, MT 59102
406-656-1579
I was very surprised when he answered the phone and I started the conversation by asking if he needs help, financially, feeding his horses. After a few hmmms, errrrs and ummms, he said he'd been raising cattle for 37 years and was as concerned for their welfare as I obviously am. He assured me they are not starving, that the land they're on has sustained cattle since "way back when the Indians...." and took my name and phone number with a promise to call me back on Monday at the latest.
I didn't even attempt to argue with him, just said my only interest is getting them fed and watered and would help him however I can. He said he appreciated the "spirit" of my phone call.
Call me an optimist.....
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Concerned citizen said:
Jim Leachman could sell snow to an Eskimo!!
I've thought this year I could use him up here to market some for me :wink:
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Oldtimer said:Jim Leachman could sell snow to an Eskimo!!
I've thought this year I could use him up here to market some for me :wink:
Yeah, I got that from speaking with him. It was all I could do to refrain from cussing him out. Still, if something good comes of it...
Babe from the Sheriff's department called back and wanted me to give out their direct number, 256-2929. Call if you want to be put on the list of those who can help.
I have/had seven horses one looks like the dead one. She's been up and down for the last year. In normal times I would have taken to a sale and she would have been slaughtered fullfilling the cycle of life and helping insure a profitable ranch. But with all the bleeding heart animal lovers in the world that is no longer an issue she would'nt have brought enough money to cover the cost of the fuel and commission. There fore she died a slower death but more romantic she was slowly starveing to death as old age or a disease of some sort ravaged her body. I finally just shot her to end her agony. Most people squirm at the idea. I'm sure Mr Leachman has some horses that are in good flesh and some that are not. You take a town of 400 people there will be young and old middle age,teenagers senior citizens. New borns and death all in the same week. Many are quick to pass judgement by a few photo's I bet the injured died or were shot.
The other horses in the photo's show a little rib but in range conditions I bet they are just fine. Maybe they should go out on the BLM land and find some wild horses I bet they are showing a little rib also. And if you look around you'll find some in better and poorer condition than the others you will also find young colts and old end of the road horses . You'll find dead horses,deer elk and so fourth. Those are all wild animals that starve to death in the end mother nature is harsh but stupid people make things worse.
I've had the pleasure of being interviewed by reporters and they normally have no clue to the real world of farming and ranching.Emotion,Promotion and commotion sells newspapers.
Things die this I do know.
I don't condone starveing any animal but I don't condone holding someone to the fire without the whole story from unbiased sources.I place the blame on the animal rights idiots for messing up a system that was working.
They look like range horses I bet there's a whole country full of them that look like those or worse.
If you want to do something I'd push for a horse slaughter facility in the USA and some education for horse owners that just because they own a mare they don't need to raise colts.
Spay your mares and Geld your studs seams I keep repeating myself.
The other horses in the photo's show a little rib but in range conditions I bet they are just fine. Maybe they should go out on the BLM land and find some wild horses I bet they are showing a little rib also. And if you look around you'll find some in better and poorer condition than the others you will also find young colts and old end of the road horses . You'll find dead horses,deer elk and so fourth. Those are all wild animals that starve to death in the end mother nature is harsh but stupid people make things worse.
I've had the pleasure of being interviewed by reporters and they normally have no clue to the real world of farming and ranching.Emotion,Promotion and commotion sells newspapers.
Things die this I do know.
I don't condone starveing any animal but I don't condone holding someone to the fire without the whole story from unbiased sources.I place the blame on the animal rights idiots for messing up a system that was working.
They look like range horses I bet there's a whole country full of them that look like those or worse.
If you want to do something I'd push for a horse slaughter facility in the USA and some education for horse owners that just because they own a mare they don't need to raise colts.
Spay your mares and Geld your studs seams I keep repeating myself.
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Hopefully Earl Holdings (Sunlight Ranches) will get wind of this, and if they're not already knee-deep in calving, or in preparation for calving season, they would have more than enough personnel already in that country to lend a hand feeding and/or helping to gather the critters.
Concerned citizen
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I will agree with you, Denny, that horse slaughter is necessary and far more humane that letting them starve to death. Yes, slaughterhouses need to be located nearby. And who's to say if it's right or wrong who eats the meat - Europeans or my dogs. Yes, yes, yes, agreed. Sadly, it will take cases like these to change the laws.
However, what this man has done/is doing is just plain wrong. Not getting veterinarian care for the horse with the broken hoof is wrong - he should have had the fortitude to shoot her if he couldn't afford it. Leaving the band on one mare's leg until it cut off circulation is wrong. Relying on the current land owner to feed (or not) your herd through the winter is wrong.
I'll bet he'll come to regret not taking the $200 per head he scoffed at last fall.
However, what this man has done/is doing is just plain wrong. Not getting veterinarian care for the horse with the broken hoof is wrong - he should have had the fortitude to shoot her if he couldn't afford it. Leaving the band on one mare's leg until it cut off circulation is wrong. Relying on the current land owner to feed (or not) your herd through the winter is wrong.
I'll bet he'll come to regret not taking the $200 per head he scoffed at last fall.
Oldtimer said:Whitewing said:Why would anyone let something like this happen to those animals? Sell the damned things if you can't feed them.
Leachman cancelled the sale he had planned... I'm sure he knows he couldn't even get his roundup/trucking costs back--because any check/cash he gets in his hands has 100's of people with Court Judications of Garnishment against him for unpaid bills standing there ready to take it.....
Ah, okay. Well that makes sense then to just let the animals starve to death.
He should hung by his nuts.
Whitewing said:Oldtimer said:Whitewing said:Why would anyone let something like this happen to those animals? Sell the damned things if you can't feed them.
Leachman cancelled the sale he had planned... I'm sure he knows he couldn't even get his roundup/trucking costs back--because any check/cash he gets in his hands has 100's of people with Court Judications of Garnishment against him for unpaid bills standing there ready to take it.....
Ah, okay. Well that makes sense then to just let the animals starve to death.
He should hung by his nuts.
yes WW he should, and not just for this :wink:
Faster horses
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This is terrible; with no end in sight for the poor horses.
I always called Jim Leachman "The King of BS".
This is far, far worse though.
I always called Jim Leachman "The King of BS".
This is far, far worse though.
Shortgrass
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Whitewing said:Why would anyone let something like this happen to those animals? Sell the damned things if you can't feed them.
If a horse isn't a good saddle horse, you can't give them away. My neighbor has a dozen ol' broomtails that he has tried to give away for 6 months without luck. That does not mean the situation is sure tragic.
Big Muddy rancher
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Shortgrass said:Whitewing said:Why would anyone let something like this happen to those animals? Sell the damned things if you can't feed them.
If a horse isn't a good saddle horse, you can't give them away. My neighbor has a dozen ol' broomtails that he has tried to give away for 6 months without luck. That does not mean the situation is sure tragic.
Horses do have a value. Maybe not much but my son hauled US horses to the plant most of last year. :?