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We have been thinking about up grading our loader. We have been thinking about going to a smaller HP tractor like maybe a 90-100 hp. Right now we are using a JD 4440 and a JD 4430 but both of them are getting up in hours that our on them and we are starting to have some problems with the 4440. The only thing we would use it for other than loading hay is running a round baler and a hay rake when we put up big square bales. My question is if any one has used these smaller hp tractors on their place and how they like them? We have been looking at a JD 6430, Case IH farmall 105U and a Case IH maxxum 140 pro. Has anyone used these machines before, or have used tractors comparible to these?
 
I have a JD 6320 which is just a notch smaller than the JD you suggested. It has a loader with a joy stick and front wheel assist. It works great for all those chores. Has plenty of power.
 
I've been happy with our JD 6310, Reverser on the Column and Power Quad transmission. Jut be careful, you use it too much and get back in at truck, you may hit your blinker to back up.
 
I use a JD 7420 at the feedlot every day for pulling the feed wagon and it hasn't been too bad. About 4 years old now with over 8000 hours on it and we havent had to do very much to it besides servicing. It makes a handy loader tractor too but I would say we work it a little too hard sometimes and it can get pretty tippy if you aren't careful, so I wouldn't downsize too much if you have fairly large bales to lift, etc.
 
We have the Maxxum 125 value tractor. We have had it for about two months now and use it to mix feed nearly every day. I really like it so far, I can't say much about the durability of it because it only has about 250hrs on it. One of the nicest features of it is the sunroof. That sure makes moving hay a breeze, and much more comfortable. I can move two 1200lb bales, round or square, at once with it. When I pick up two at once it gets a little light in the rear, but otherwise it handles them fine. We are happy with it so far.
 
The 7410's are famous amongst jd mechanics for transmissions piling up at 6-8000 hrs on the quad range versions.... something to keep in mind.
My neighbours just got theirs back today for the princely sum of $12,000 dollars.
64 series jd's are great little loader tractors and handle 566 sized round bales no trouble one at a time, and are big enough to run balers, haybines, etc.
 
Thanks guys for the info. We kind of like the new transmission in the new where you can throw it in reverse when you come to a stack at full speed and it will slow down and then reverse. I really liked the sunroof also. We put up 3x3 bales and we have a hay head that picks up three of these bales. I can see where that sunroof would come in hand when stacking 6 bales high at the stack yard. The only problem that I have with then is the stinkin price. When I see the price my old tractors are looking better every day. But these new ones sure make the work go a hell of alot fast.
 
I was just read about how many are switching to industrial grade tractors for loader work. Basically back hoe without the hoe. they come FWA but most have a lower powered PTO then ag tractors. They seem to be cheaper but built better. Go figger, have we been screwed?
 
I don't know if you are set on those brands? We bought a Kubota 9540, it is 95hp will do all those tasks and is outstanding on fuel. I raked and baled appprox 55 ac one day on less than 15 gals. We use it in our business installing hoop buildings with hyd augar up to 24" holes 6' deep. Its been real good for us and about $20k less than jd.
 
I don't know if you are set on those brands? We bought a Kubota 9540, it is 95hp will do all those tasks and is outstanding on fuel. I raked and baled appprox 55 ac one day on less than 15 gals. We use it in our business installing hoop buildings with hyd augar up to 24" holes 6' deep. Its been real good for us and about $20k less than jd.
 
I'm no machinery expert - I hate the stuff but here is a suggestion - buy used tractors out of Europe they are a lot cheaper.
Example - JD 7420 with 3000 hrs at a dealer close to me asking $81,000 Cdn ($65,000 US).
A dealer I know in England has a 3000 hr JD 6420S for $50,000 CDN ($40,500 US.)
It's fairly cheap to bring them across - I've had friends do it. Stick 2 tractors on a container ship and sell the other one for a profit when you get it here. Just make sure you buy a model that is available here so you can get parts. That's what I plan to do the next time I change tractors - which won't be anytime soon :cry:
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
I was just read about how many are switching to industrial grade tractors for loader work. Basically back hoe without the hoe. they come FWA but most have a lower powered PTO then ag tractors. They seem to be cheaper but built better. Go figger, have we been screwed?
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I like the industrial tractors,have a old International Industrial that's a great yard tractor,has three point and pto but i would never take off the backhoe,and an Oliver 1900 4wd all old but well taken care of.
 
It looks like to me it would cost alot more to have the thing shipped here than it would just to buy it right here in America. But if you go with a industrial type tractor do you get more of the comfront thats in some of the cabs that they have now. This summer I sold a semi load of hay to a guy that had a Kubota. I don't really remember the number that it was but I really like how that little thing ran.[/quote]
 
Grassfarmer said:
I'm no machinery expert - I hate the stuff but here is a suggestion - buy used tractors out of Europe they are a lot cheaper.
Example - JD 7420 with 3000 hrs at a dealer close to me asking $81,000 Cdn ($65,000 US).
A dealer I know in England has a 3000 hr JD 6420S for $50,000 CDN ($40,500 US.)
It's fairly cheap to bring them across - I've had friends do it. Stick 2 tractors on a container ship and sell the other one for a profit when you get it here. Just make sure you buy a model that is available here so you can get parts. That's what I plan to do the next time I change tractors - which won't be anytime soon :cry:
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GF: We've had a private dealer here that has brought in & sold over 300 JD's from Europe; mostly the 7000 FWA series. He stated that the overheated world ag economy had made it unaffordable to import almost any tractors in 08.........he didn't state if they were just not as available or if the price of used equipment had rose too high......... although that may have changed over this winter!
 
Not at all - the freight is reasonable. A friend in Manitoba did it when he moved here from England. Loaded the container on his old farm had it hauled to port and loaded then trucked a considerable distance to a dealer near his new farm in Canada and I think it cost him $10,000 CDN. If you can save $30,000 each on two tractors that looks like a deal to me. I've toyed with the idea of setting up a sideline doing this as I know the dealers over there.

Have used industrial type loaders before - one thing to watch is their extra weight. They tend to have a lower power to weight ratio than a regular loader tractor. They are great in a yard or in dry conditions but a liability on steep or wet conditions. Some machines are expensive to get parts for too - they are priced at "industrial" rather than farm rates. I guess it depends how much loader work you have. In Europe most farms had a specialised "material handler" either a rough terrain forklift or a telescopic handler.
 
tenbach79 said:
It looks like to me it would cost alot more to have the thing shipped here than it would just to buy it right here in America. But if you go with a industrial type tractor do you get more of the comfront thats in some of the cabs that they have now. This summer I sold a semi load of hay to a guy that had a Kubota. I don't really remember the number that it was but I really like how that little thing ran.
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it is really not to bad... not sure about all European countries.. but a 9500lb boat ran about $1200 containerized to Sweden and three Mercedes SUVs containerized run about $900 to Russia from port Elizabeth New Jersey
 
I bought a Euro JD 7700 MFWD with 4500 hours for $35,000 4 years ago. No trouble at all. Four other guys around here have tractors that they bought there for similar prices and they have not had any trouble either. The parts for these tractors are the same as US tractors except for some lights, an extra parking brake and some have one more range in the transmission but I have looked on JDPARTS.com and they have complete parts listing and availability for these tractors. We bought our tractors from JB tractors in Brandon, Minnesota www.jbtractors.com. I have seen ads in several other parts of the country for dealers selling European tractors, if you do some checking you should be able to find a dealer.
 
Just remember you get what you pay for!!! My dad bought a McCormick for price and has had alot of trouble with it. The Kubota's are a light utility tractor so I would look at either a 6 or 7000 series JD the best buy for the money. I have ran all colors and green is always a good investment. If you look at option for option they are not anymore money than the other brands, plus JD is the only manufacture that builds their own loader.
 

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