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Lockout takes it in the shorts.....AGAIN!!!

Southdakotahunter

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Open Fields Proposal Killed by committee

A bill to require South Dakota conservation officers to ask permission before going on private land was killed in a legislative committee Tuesday, but the vote was close: 7-6.


Last year, the Legislature rejected a similar measure.

The ongoing "open fields" controversy is over the current state law, which allows the state Game, Fish & Parks Department to do "compliance checks" for hunting licenses without permission from landowners.

"Coming on to private property without permission is wrong," rancher Robert Johnson of Harding County told the House Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee.

But Chris Hesla, executive director of the South Dakota Wildlife Federation, spoke against the bill and in favor of the current law, saying compliance checks were a valuable deterrent to illegal hunting. "There are some unscrupulous people who hunt in this state," Hesla said.

Rep. Gordon Howie, R-Rapid City, who supported last year's bill and this year's measure (HB1148), also is on the agriculture committee.

"I've seen an elephant up close and personal, and I don't care what kind of dress you put on an elephant, it is still an elephant," Howie told a packed committee room in the Capitol. "The elephant is that you are trampling on private property rights when you do compliance checks without permission."

Some landowners, especially in the northwest part of the state, have been protesting the policy for two or three years by prohibiting public hunting on their land — the so-called "lockout."

Rep. Betty Olson, R-Prairie City, prime sponsor, testified before the House that more than 4 million acres would remain in the "lockout" unless the law was passed.

"The minute this thing passes, my place comes out of the lockout," Olson said.

Olson also said the new law had enough exceptions to allow conservation officers the leeway to do their jobs. "There is nothing in here that will hinder law enforcement," she said.

HB1148 would have allowed officers to enter private land without permission for emergencies, to tend to crippled wildlife or if they had a "reasonable suspicion" that violations had occurred.

However, Doug Hansen, director of the Wildlife Division at the Game, Fish & Parks Department, called the proposal "an unprecedented alteration" in a system of wildlife management in place for nearly a century.

The open-fields controversy began over individual disputes between landowners and conservation officers. Emmett Keyser, assistant director of the Wildlife Division, described an "eight-point communications enhancement plan" to reach out to landowners and to better train conservation officers in "interpersonal skills."

Rep. Howie, who represents part of Pennington County and all of Custer and Fall River counties, acknowledged the GF&P Department had made improvements.

But Howie added: "I don't care if it's a yellow dress, I don't care if it's a pink dress. You're still trying to dress an elephant."

Still, the House ag committee voted 7-6 to defer the measure to the "41st legislative day." There are only 40 days in the legislative session, and the committee vote makes it unlikely the bill will reach the House floor.

Rep. Dale Hargens, D-Miller, said he voted to kill the measure only because a special wildlife issues panel had recommended giving the GF&P Department two years to improve landowner relations. "This is a no-win for me because I'm going to make as many people mad as I'm going to make glad no matter which way I go on this," he said.

Rep. Gary Jerke, R-Tripp, also said he voted against the measure reluctantly. "I do this with a heavy heart. It's a very difficult vote for me," he said.

But Jerke also criticized landowner threats of continued lockouts. "It saddens me we're to the point where it's going to be my way or the highway."
 
Ihave been following this and other legislation matters from other states our own LB I beleive made this statement:

From a Sotuh Dakota newspaper:Olson said about 4 million acres of land in northwestern South Dakota have been closed to hunting because of the issue. Until game wardens' ability to enter private land is restricted, ranchers will not open their land to hunting, except for people who pay for the privilege, she said.

"This is also the only way over four million acres of hunting that used to be free is going to be open again," Olson said. "If we have to give up our rights, we're going to be paid for it."


Rep. Paul Nelson, R-Hetland, said landowners have not compromised in the ongoing dispute and he is bothered by the landowners' lockout of hunters.

"That really concerns me, and I do see that as blackmail," Nelson said.

So now becuase it seems Mrs Olson lost the battle she threatens the very epople of the state of Sotuh Dakota by telling all who enter will pay a fee? This from the very lady who wnet on this site many times and made statements about not being for paid hunting? So she will penailze the very people who are there to help control wildlife populations by making the above statement?

Pathetic is all I can say, I'm hopeful for all sportsman that come or live in South Dakota they don't need to cross her path LOL.
 
It always was about 'paid hunting' it was just wrapped up in 'Mom -the flag and apple pie'. The same ranchers peeing and moaning about hunters-squeel about coyotes-wail about prairie dogs and yelp about too many deer. No paid hunting or padlocks up here and I'm glad of it. That SOB who turned in the war vet down there last year should be tarred and feathered.
 
Hey NR, about the only place in SD where there isnt paid hunting is in NW South Dakota. Try to get permission to hunt ANYTHING east of the Missouri River and you will most likely pay a fee. I'm not sure how you can say its about the money when nobody is making any off of the lockout. Also check out who wrote the article, Mr. Tony dean himself and the vote was 7-6.

I do agree with you about the guy who turned in the vet however. :mad:

Is it easy to get permission to hunt in Canada? If so, when are we going? :lol:
 
Fulton, what you say is not anywhere the truth. Yes there are several pay to hunt places in SD and in eastern it leads the way, or at least the central part of the state, but its by far the norm. The ones that do the pay to hunt, often times farm for the animals. I have no prob with pay to hunt. I wont pay, i will quit before then. 9-10 places you stop at late season pheasant hunting will allow hunting free. Not early in the year because of family/friends and such. There is ALOT of pay hunting west of the missouri river. Also alot that is not. There is no where near 4 million acres in the lockout. This past year, many reopened because of the number of animals on their land. THose folks know hunting is the only way to control the animals without letting mother nature kill by disease and such and they are responsible enough to not want that to happen.
 
I don't think LB or other members of her state realize that many other states have outside funding other than license sales to run their game depts on, many have DNR's and then general funds get loaded into states game depts. The states with inter dept funding rely on license sales and in turn keeps the taxes down on all tax payers of a state, if I remember SD doesn't have a income tax? Keep killing the goose that lays the golden egg ie: the many sportsman that visit Lb's state and pay for wildlife management, then I'm sure her and her fellow landowners won't mind higher property taxes or some other form of tax to make up for lost revenue? Because the price to play will be to high for many and will search out other states and other deals.

The wildlife will be funded always, at what level and what quailty will be determined by future funding. Many think Game depts run on+, like they make money theydon't for the most part I looked at wyoming legislation on the net there talking a 20% hike in license increase because they need the money to operate.

Paid hunting makes up a % of all lower 48 states, either directly for ground access or lease, but it is not the majority in many states, as many try to make the quick easy buck, but I'm telling you one day soon someone will loose a ranch to a lawsuit and then many will either have to accept the facts! You either get into it full bore which takes time,many dollars to do it right and make a profit, or not charge. Many want to charge per gun or so much for 3-5 day hunts on marginal ground for many species and don't buy liabilty insurance leaving themselves open for a big issue.

Paid hunting will always exsist, those that are the best devote their time into a program of success. The future of hunting relys on many palces not charging and states having public access areas spread out evenly through out the states to lessen pressure and make for more high quailty hunts. The very nature of many states Game Dept's going to leasing ground is the direct impact of paid hunting.

Some can't have it both ways.
 

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