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dmiller

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I have a 10 month old bull who has lost weight in the last month, he was on 14% cubes and fed hay. I have now started him on 37% cubes and lots of hay. He appears with no other symptoms other than weight loss he has an appetite and clear eyes/nose. I have wormed him. I have noticed he does not appear to eat/lick mineral block. I now gave him loose minerals 12/12 and he does not appear to like salt or minerals. Any advice? Thanks Deb Oklahoma
 
What is his fecal matter like ? Take a temp on him too .....

That is a big increase in protein all of a sudden , did you change it over night or gradually ?


All vaccines up to date ??
 
I changed him overnight suggested by a rancher friend to up his protein right away his stool were dryer now getting better. I have only had him 4 months and was told his vaccines were current.
 
Doesn't sound like hardware , she said he has an appetite. I would say acidosis. Pull a temp, that should always be the first thing you do anyways.

http://extension.missouri.edu/publications/DisplayPub.aspx?P=G7700
symptoms of hardware
You may notice that the cow has a poor appetite, is somewhat depressed, and is reluctant to move. Cattle seem to have indigestion and show signs of pain when defecating.

If perforation of the heart has occurred, fluid, due to infection, may accumulate around the heart and produce abnormal heart sounds. The brisket may be quite flabby due to a large amount of fluid in it.

The cow may also be bloated. These symptoms may subside or disappear within one to seven days, but may reoccur shortly afterwards.

If the cow is slaughtered and the reticulum and heart carefully examined, it may be possible to find a nail or wire protruding through the wall of the reticulum into the heart. However, the hardware may have been completely digested over a period of months and thus not be present.

Sometimes abscesses or adhesion's may be present between the reticulum and diaphragm, indicating a perforation had been present. Normally, the reticulum and diaphragm are not bound to one another.
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BTW I doubt it is johnes as he is really too young to show visible symptoms. Not ruling it out but it is an anomaly at that age to show any symptoms.
 
If he was mine I would check the water and see if he is drinking. One time someone had a elect short in a water tank and the cattle would not drink.
2. Sounds like way to much fiber . I would feed him a sweet type grain with corn in it.
3. Something may be wrong with the hay.
4. Once we sold a show steer to Oklahoma. He was winning quite a bit. So the people built him a brand new wood pen. He licked the boards and got sick like your bull. It was the treat in the wood that burnt his digestive system out.
5 Also cockcitiocisis sp.. are bird dropping around or in the bunks or water
bird droppings in the water??
6.36 protein should only be fed at a low rate read the tag. He may of had is gut burnt out with to much protein. A kid up the road fed hog feed to her show steer and ruined the calf.
 
dmiller said:
I have a 10 month old bull who has lost weight in the last month, he was on 14% cubes and fed hay. I have now started him on 37% cubes and lots of hay. He appears with no other symptoms other than weight loss he has an appetite and clear eyes/nose. I have wormed him. I have noticed he does not appear to eat/lick mineral block. I now gave him loose minerals 12/12 and he does not appear to like salt or minerals. Any advice? Thanks Deb Oklahoma
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D, a diet too high in protein can stimulate weight loss, if the remaining diet is low fat and low carb (in contrast to the protein intake). Just curious, what brand/type of wormer did you use?
 
i lost 6 calves and almost a mama to acorns this winter. we had a hefty crop of acorns. and that will kill a cow.
they will have squirts with it. but will show nothing wrong in their nose or eyes. i dont think this is what you got but i have the remedy here. first i must say the shells are toxic to cattle the nuts are nutritious. you get a mixture of 6% lime 10%liquid molasses then 28% cotton seed meal and28% cotton seed hulls and 28% creep feed . if cows wont eat it because of too much lime then add creep feed until they will. the county man said to try to get 2 pounds of the mix in them per head per day. i fed it for a week. pulled several sick ones through.
 

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