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MAD COW CONFIRMED ALABAMA

reader (the Second) said:
MRJ said:
Mike said:
There would not be a thing wrong with what you propose here. Good idea.

Now if the USDA would do just that, we could move forward.

What is your basis for implying that they do not use the best of science re. BSE?

What, specifically, could or should they be doing differently, ACCORDING TO THE BEST SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION AND/OR GUIDLINES AVAILABLE TODAY? (btw, the caps are for emphasis because I haven't figured out how to type boldface)..

MRJ

The experts on TSE -- worldwide -- have criticized USDA over and over. That's why.

Prusiner, who is revered in the International BSE community is reviled by the USDA. Ann wouldn't even meet with him.

MRJ, are you drinking again? I'm worried about you. You're turning the bottle up much to often lately. Buy yourself a nice bottle of wine and leave that gin alone. It's bad for your liver. :wink:
 
Mike
Prusiner, who is revered in the International BSE community is reviled by the USDA. Ann wouldn't even meet with him.

That is because Prusiner has opened up a can of worms by suggesting spontaneity lately. Just doesn't fit the "eradication without market testing" scheme developed by the scientist over at Cargill and Tyson.
 
rkaiser said:
Mike
Prusiner, who is revered in the International BSE community is reviled by the USDA. Ann wouldn't even meet with him.

That is because Prusiner has opened up a can of worms by suggesting spontaneity lately. Just doesn't fit the "eradication without market testing" scheme developed by the scientist over at Cargill and Tyson.

Very astute thinking there, RK. Even revolving doors have to be locked at some point.
 
Release No. 0090.06
Contact:
Jim Rogers (202) 690-4755
USDA Press Office (202) 720-4623



SECOND USDA CONFIRMATORY TEST RESULTS POSITIVE FOR BSE

WASHINGTON, March 15, 2006- The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) today announced that the second of two bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) confirmatory tests conducted on an Alabama cow has returned a positive result.

Earlier this week, USDA announced that an Alabama cow was positive for BSE after receiving the results of a Western blot confirmatory test. APHIS' National Veterinary Services Laboratories in Ames, Iowa, which conducted a second confirmatory test, the immunohistochemistry (IHC), received positive results today. Under APHIS protocols, if either the IHC or the Western blot returns a positive result the animal is considered positive for BSE.

APHIS is currently conducting an epidemiological investigation into the animal's origin in order to attempt to trace the animal to its place of birth. It had been on the Alabama farm less than a year. One of the first steps in this investigation will be the recovery of the carcass for examination to allow APHIS investigators to directly examine the breed and age of the animal as well as check the animal for any form of identification such as ear-tags. The recovery will be completed within the next day.

The cow, initially reported to be a Santa Gertrudis, is now believed to be a red crossbred (possibly crossed with a Santa Gertrudis or similar breed). This animal was non-ambulatory on the farm and examined by a local, private veterinarian. The veterinarian returned to the farm the following day, euthanized the animal and collected a sample, which was submitted for testing. The animal was buried on the farm at that time.

This animal did not enter the animal or human food chain, in accordance with USDA protocols. Human and animal health in the United States is protected by a system of interlocking safeguards, which ensure the safety of U.S. beef. The most important of these safeguards is the ban on specified risk materials from the food supply and the Food and Drug Administration's ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban.

As part of USDA's BSE enhanced surveillance program, more than 650,000 samples have been tested since June 2004. Throughout this effort, APHIS has noted the likelihood of finding additional cases of BSE. To date, only two of these highest risk animals has tested positive for the disease as part of the surveillance program, for a total of three cases of BSE in the United States. The enhanced surveillance program was designed as a one-time, intensive effort to provide a snap shot of the U.S. cattle population, in order to determine the prevalence of BSE in this country. This second case does not change the fact that BSE prevalence in the United States remains extremely low.

APHIS will continue to work closely with the state of Alabama to learn more about this animal's history, and the results of our epidemiological investigation will be shared with the public. All animals of interest will be tested for BSE.





http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB/.cmd/ad/.ar/sa.retrievecontent/.c/6_2_1UH/.ce/7_2_5JM/.p/5_2_4TQ/.d/3/_th/J_2_9D/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?PC_7_2_5JM_contentid=2006%2F03%2F0090.xml&PC_7_2_5JM_navtype=RT&PC_7_2_5JM_parentnav=LATEST_RELEASES&PC_7_2_5JM_navid=NEWS_RELEASE#7_2_5JM


TSS
 
Subject: Analysis: What that mad cow means
Date: March 16, 2006 at 7:37 am PST

Analysis: What that mad cow means
By STEVE MITCHELL
UPI Senior Medical Correspondent

WASHINGTON, March 15 (UPI) -- The U.S. Department of Agriculture was quick to assure the public earlier this week that the third case of mad cow disease did not pose a risk to them, but what federal officials have not acknowledged is that this latest case indicates the deadly disease has been circulating in U.S. herds for at least a decade.

The second case, which was detected last year in a Texas cow and which USDA officials were reluctant to verify, was approximately 12 years old.

These two cases (the latest was detected in an Alabama cow) present a picture of the disease having been here for 10 years or so, since it is thought that cows usually contract the disease from contaminated feed they consume as calves. The concern is that humans can contract a fatal, incurable, brain-wasting illness from consuming beef products contaminated with the mad cow pathogen.

"The fact the Texas cow showed up fairly clearly implied the existence of other undetected cases," Dr. Paul Brown, former medical director of the National Institutes of Health's Laboratory for Central Nervous System Studies and an expert on mad cow-like diseases, told United Press International. "The question was, 'How many?' and we still can't answer that."

Brown, who is preparing a scientific paper based on the latest two mad cow cases to estimate the maximum number of infected cows that occurred in the United States, said he has "absolutely no confidence in USDA tests before one year ago" because of the agency's reluctance to retest the Texas cow that initially tested positive.

USDA officials finally retested the cow and confirmed it was infected seven months later, but only at the insistence of the agency's inspector general.

"Everything they did on the Texas cow makes everything they did before 2005 suspect," Brown said.

Despite this, Brown said the U.S. prevalence of mad cow, formally known as bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or BSE, did not significantly threaten human or cattle health.

"Overall, my view is BSE is highly unlikely to pose any important risk either in cattle feed or human feed," he said.

However, Jean Halloran of Consumers Union in Yonkers, N.Y., said consumers should be troubled by the USDA's secrecy and its apparent plan to dramatically cut back the number of mad cow tests it conducts.

"Consumers should be very concerned about how little we know about the USDA's surveillance program and the failure of the USDA to reveal really important details," Halloran told UPI. "Consumers have to be really concerned if they're going to cut back the program," she added.

Last year the USDA tested more than 300,000 animals for the disease, but it has proposed, even in light of a third case, scaling back the program to 40,000 tests annually.

"They seem to be, in terms of actions and policies, taking a lot more seriously the concerns of the cattle industry than the concerns of consumers," Halloran said. "It's really hard to know what it takes to get this administration to take action to protect the public."

The USDA has insisted that the safeguards of a ban on incorporating cow tissue into cattle feed (which is thought to spread the disease) and removal of the most infectious parts of cows, such as the brain and spinal cord, protect consumers. But the agency glosses over the fact that both of these systems have been revealed to be inadequately implemented.

The feed ban, which is enforced by the Food and Drug Administration, has been criticized by the Government Accountability Office in two reports, the most recent coming just last year. The GAO said the FDA's enforcement of the ban continues to have weaknesses that "undermine the nation's firewall against BSE."

USDA documents released last year showed more than 1,000 violations of the regulations requiring the removal of brains and spinal cords in at least 35 states, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, with some plants being cited repeatedly for infractions. In addition, a violation of similar regulations that apply to beef exported to Japan is the reason why Japan closed its borders to U.S. beef in January six weeks after reopening them.

Other experts also question the adequacy of the USDA's surveillance system. The USDA insists the prevalence of mad cow disease is low, but the agency has provided few details of its surveillance program, making it difficult for outside experts to know if the agency's monitoring plan is sufficient.

"It's impossible to judge the adequacy of the surveillance system without having a breakdown of the tested population by age and risk status," Elizabeth Mumford, a veterinarian and BSE expert at Safe Food Solutions in Bern, Switzerland, a company that provides advice on reducing mad cow risk to industry and governments, told UPI.

"Everybody would be happier and more confident and in a sense it might be able to go away a little bit for (the USDA) if they would just publish a breakdown on the tests," Mumford added.

UPI requested detailed records about animals tested under the USDA's surveillance plan via the Freedom of Information Act in May 2004 but nearly two years later has not received any corresponding documents from the agency, despite a federal law requiring agencies to comply within 30 days. This leaves open the question of whether the USDA is withholding the information, does not have the information or is so haphazardly organized that it cannot locate it.

Mumford said the prevalence of the disease in U.S. herds is probably quite low, but there have probably been other cases that have so far gone undetected. "They're only finding a very small fraction of that low prevalence," she said.

Mumford expressed surprise at the lack of concern about the deadly disease from American consumers. "I would expect the U.S. public to be more concerned," she said.

Markus Moser, a molecular biologist and chief executive officer of Prionics, a Swiss firm that manufactures BSE test kits, told UPI one concern is that if people are infected, the mad cow pathogen could become "humanized" or more easily transmitted from person to person.

"Transmission would be much easier, through all kinds of medical procedures" and even through the blood supply, Moser said.


© Copyright 2006 United Press International, Inc. All Rights Reserved




http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060315-055557-1284r


TSS
 
Subject: USDA/Alabama BSE Epidemiological Update
Date: March 16, 2006 at 5:51 pm PST

Jim Rogers (202) 690-4755
U.S. Department of Agriculture

Christy Rhodes (334) 240-7103
Alabama Department of Agriculture & Industries

USDA/Alabama BSE Epidemiological Update

WASHINGTON , March 16, 2006 --Today, officials with the state of Alabama and the U.S. Department of Agriculture have completed work at the farm in Alabama to recover the remains of the cow that tested earlier this week as positive for BSE.

Federal and state agriculture workers excavated the remains of the animal, which had been buried on the farm and did not enter the animal or human food chain, in accordance with USDA protocols. While the carcass matches the description provided by the owner, samples are being sent to USDA's National Veterinary Services Laboratory (NVSL) in Ames , Iowa to match DNA with the positive sample. The DNA will also be used to match suspected siblings and offspring found during the epidemiological investigation.

After further examination, experts confirmed through dentition that the animal was at least 10 years of age. This means the animal would have been born prior to the implementation of the Food and Drug Administration's 1997 feed ban. Human and animal health in the United States is protected by a system of interlocking safeguards, which ensure the safety of U.S. beef. The most important of these safeguards is the ban on specified risk materials from the food supply and the FDA's ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban.

In addition to the carcass, federal agriculture officials located a six-week-old calf belonging to the BSE positive animal. The calf has been quarantined and is being moved to NVSL for further observation.

The USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service will begin tomorrow to post daily updates on the progress of the epidemiological investigation on its website between 4 and 5 p.m. EST. The updates will be available at:
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/hot_issues/bse.shtml



http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/content/2006/03/bse_al-epi_vs.shtml


TSS
 
From another site..

Seems that the only link I've found to articles by this T. S. Singletary Sr. can be found on the anti-meat eating site that was comparing the NCBA to Nazis.

http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow/

It doesn't open very quickly, but there's a lot of articles by the aforementioned person on this site that can be perused at leisure.

Whether that means this person condones the kind of fear-mongering some contributers on that site seem to use in order to promote their lifestyle is unknown to me.
 
dang frenchie, you pulled the old vegsite trick on me.
this is what most ranchers do when they cannot dispute the science.


oh, i see the infamous VEGGIE SITE has scared some of you.
i swear, between peta and vegheads, they sure do scare the be nice out of a bunch of rednecks, i thought you boys and girls were tough Cowboy

before that site scares you folks to death, i want to thank jeff there for letting me post the history of this cover-up. when i started this nightmare in 1997-98, there was nowhere or nobody wanting to talk about this except madtom at

mad-cow.org/

i got on a list of bse scientist and experts BSE-L, usda lurkers and speakers, aphis folks, scientist all over the world, and there i began to educate myself and others, i think it might have been a two-way street. there, some scientist suggested me finding a place to document what i was getting. at that time i was getting confidential documents from the bse-inquiry flown to me via London-air mail, none of this was out to the public yet. i was following it live, day by day by day. then i found a board that would freely let me post my data, at that time it was howard lymans and oprah winfrey board. some of the first data was lost, but i think some of you, if you can open your mind to science 'sound science' not the BSe that the usda et al has put out over the years, but read the science, read the source of the science, not the url i post it too, those vegsource urls will not bite you or give you the koodies Wink

i have wasted 8 years doing this, i am still a meat eater, but we must get this right. again, your call, i know the truth. if any of you that want to go back and read some history of this ongoing nightmare, the pages are archived as;


http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow/archive11.html


http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow/archive10.html


etc, etc down too;


http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow/archive1.html



remember, i eat meat, i am a be nice off consumer, i want the truth, all of it.



Moms death from hvCJD


http://www.vegsource.com/talk/lyman/messages/7252.html


anytime you find url with lyman, chance to madcow;


http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow/messages/7252.html


'MOMS AUTOPSY REPORT'


http://www.vegsource.com/talk/lyman/messages/7548.html


change to;


http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow/messages/7548.html



this goes much, much further than the mad cow hamburger, im mad as be nice and im NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! CENSOR ME HERE and i will go somewhere else. ...





BUT, what have we here;


also, there are a few other links besides the vegsource link;


you can search google 'Terry S. Singeltary Sr.' and or 'madcow tss', or 'cjd tss' or 'cjd blood tss' and or a few peer review journals;



Re: RE-Monitoring the occurrence of emerging forms of Creutzfeldt-Jakob

disease in the United States


Email Terry S. Singeltary:


[email protected]



I lost my mother to hvCJD (Heidenhain Variant CJD). I would like to

comment on the CDC's attempts to monitor the occurrence of emerging

forms of CJD. Asante, Collinge et al [1] have reported that BSE

transmission to the 129-methionine genotype can lead to an alternate

phenotype that is indistinguishable from type 2 PrPSc, the commonest

sporadic CJD. However, CJD and all human TSEs are not reportable

nationally. CJD and all human TSEs must be made reportable in every

state and internationally. I hope that the CDC does not continue to

expect us to still believe that the 85%+ of all CJD cases which are

sporadic are all spontaneous, without route/source. We have many TSEs in

the USA in both animal and man. CWD in deer/elk is spreading rapidly and

CWD does transmit to mink, ferret, cattle, and squirrel monkey by

intracerebral inoculation. With the known incubation periods in other

TSEs, oral transmission studies of CWD may take much longer. Every

victim/family of CJD/TSEs should be asked about route and source of this

agent. To prolong this will only spread the agent and needlessly expose

others. In light of the findings of Asante and Collinge et al, there

should be drastic measures to safeguard the medical and surgical arena

from sporadic CJDs and all human TSEs. I only ponder how many sporadic

CJDs in the USA are type 2 PrPSc?


http://www.neurology.org/cgi/eletters/60/2/176#535



LANCET INFECTIOUS DISEASE JOURNAL


Volume 3, Number 8 01 August 2003


Newsdesk


Tracking spongiform encephalopathies in North America


Xavier Bosch

My name is Terry S Singeltary Sr, and I live in Bacliff, Texas. I lost

my mom to hvCJD (Heidenhain variant CJD) and have been searching for

answers ever since. What I have found is that we have not been told the

truth. CWD in deer and elk is a small portion of a much bigger problem.


49-year-old Singeltary is one of a number of people who have remained

largely unsatisfied after being told that a close relative died from a

rapidly progressive dementia compatible with spontaneous

Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD). So he decided to gather hundreds of

documents on transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSE) and

realised that if Britons could get variant CJD from bovine spongiform

encephalopathy (BSE), Americans might get a similar disorder from

chronic wasting disease (CWD)the relative of mad cow disease seen among

deer and elk in the USA. Although his feverish search did not lead him

to the smoking gun linking CWD to a similar disease in North American

people, it did uncover a largely disappointing situation.


Singeltary was greatly demoralised at the few attempts to monitor the

occurrence of CJD and CWD in the USA. Only a few states have made CJD

reportable. Human and animal TSEs should be reportable nationwide and

internationally, he complained in a letter to the Journal of the

American Medical Association (JAMA 2003; 285: 733). I hope that the CDC

does not continue to expect us to still believe that the 85% plus of all

CJD cases which are sporadic are all spontaneous, without route or source.


Until recently, CWD was thought to be confined to the wild in a small

region in Colorado. But since early 2002, it has been reported in other

areas, including Wisconsin, South Dakota, and the Canadian province of

Saskatchewan. Indeed, the occurrence of CWD in states that were not

endemic previously increased concern about a widespread outbreak and

possible transmission to people and cattle.


To date, experimental studies have proven that the CWD agent can be

transmitted to cattle by intracerebral inoculation and that it can cross

the mucous membranes of the digestive tract to initiate infection in

lymphoid tissue before invasion of the central nervous system. Yet the

plausibility of CWD spreading to people has remained elusive.


Part of the problem seems to stem from the US surveillance system. CJD

is only reported in those areas known to be endemic foci of CWD.

Moreover, US authorities have been criticised for not having performed

enough prionic tests in farm deer and elk.


Although in November last year the US Food and Drug Administration

issued a directive to state public-health and agriculture officials

prohibiting material from CWD-positive animals from being used as an

ingredient in feed for any animal species, epidemiological control and

research in the USA has been quite different from the situation in the

UK and Europe regarding BSE.


Getting data on TSEs in the USA from the government is like pulling

teeth, Singeltary argues. You get it when they want you to have it,

and only what they want you to have.


Norman Foster, director of the Cognitive Disorders Clinic at the

University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI, USA), says that current

surveillance of prion disease in people in the USA is inadequate to

detect whether CWD is occurring in human beings; adding that, the

cases that we know about are reassuring, because they do not suggest the

appearance of a new variant of CJD in the USA or atypical features in

patients that might be exposed to CWD. However, until we establish a

system that identifies and analyses a high proportion of suspected prion

disease cases we will not know for sure. The USA should develop a

system modelled on that established in the UK, he points out.



Ali Samii, a neurologist at Seattle VA Medical Center who recently

reported the cases of three hunterstwo of whom were friendswho died

from pathologically confirmed CJD, says that at present there are

insufficient data to claim transmission of CWD into humans; adding that

[only] by asking [the questions of venison consumption and deer/elk

hunting] in every case can we collect suspect cases and look into the

plausibility of transmission further. Samii argues that by making both

doctors and hunters more aware of the possibility of prions spreading

through eating venison, doctors treating hunters with dementia can

consider a possible prion disease, and doctors treating CJD patients

will know to ask whether they ate venison.


CDC spokesman Ermias Belay says that the CDC will not be investigating

the [Samii] cases because there is no evidence that the men ate

CWD-infected meat. He notes that although the likelihood of CWD

jumping the species barrier to infect humans cannot be ruled out 100%

and that [we] cannot be 100% sure that CWD does not exist in humans&

the data seeking evidence of CWD transmission to humans have been very

limited.




http://infection.thelancet.com/journal/journal.isa




he complained in a letter to the Journal of the American Medical



Association (JAMA 2003; 285: 733). I hope that the CDC does not

continue to expect us to still believe that the 85% plus of all CJD

cases which are sporadic are all spontaneous, without route or source.<<<



actually, that quote was from a more recent article in the Journal of

Neurology (see below), not the JAMA article...



Full Text

Diagnosis and Reporting of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease

Singeltary, Sr et al. JAMA.2001; 285: 733-734.



http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/285/6/733?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=dignosing+and+reporting+creutzfeldt+jakob+disease&searchid=1048865596978_1528&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&journalcode=jama



BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL



SOMETHING TO CHEW ON



BMJ



http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/319/7220/1312/b#EL2



BMJ



http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/320/7226/8/b#EL1



THE PATHOLOGICAL PROTEIN

BY Philip Yam

Yam Philip Yam News Editor Scientific American www.sciam.com
http://www.thepathologicalprotein.com/



CHAPTER 14 Laying Odds Are prion diseases more prevalent than we thought? Researchers and government officials badly underestimated the threat that mad cow disease posed when it first appeared in Britain. They didn't think bovine spongifbrm encephalopathy was a zoonosisan animal disease that can sicken people. The 1996 news that BSE could infect humans with a new form of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease stunned the world. It also got some biomedical researchers wondering whether sporadic CJD may really be a manifestation of a zoonotic sickness. Might it be caused by the ingestion of prions, as variant CJD is? Revisiting Sporadic CJD It's not hard to get Terry Singeltary going. "I have my conspiracy theo- ries," admitted the 49-year-old Texan.1 Singeltary is probably the nation's most relentless consumer advocate when it comes to issues in prion diseases. He has helped families learn about the sickness and coordinated efforts with support groups such as CJD Voice and the CJD Foundation. He has also connected with others who are critical of the American way of handling the threat of prion diseases. Such critics include Consumers Union's Michael Hansen, journalist John Stauber, and Thomas Pringle, who used to run the voluminous www.mad- cow.orgWeb site. These three lend their expertise to newspaper and magazine stories about prion diseases, and they usually argue that 223 224 CHAPTER 14 prions represent more of a threat than people realize, and that the gov- ernment has responded poorly to the dangers because it is more con- cerned about protecting the beef industry than people's health. Singeltary has similar inclinations, but unlike these men, he doesn't have the professional credentials behind him. He is an 11-grade dropout, a machinist who retired because of a neck injury sustained at work. But you might not know that from the vast stores of information in his mind and on his hard drive. Over the years, he has provided unac- knowledged help to reporters around the globe, passing on files to such big-time players as The New Tork Times, Newsweek, and USA Today. His networking with journalists, activists, and concerned citizens has helped medical authorities make contact with suspected CJD victims. He has kept scientists informed with his almost daily posting of news items and research abstracts on electronic newsgroups, including the bulletin board on www.vegsource.com and the BSE-listserv run out of the University of Karlsruhe, Germany. His combative, blunt, opinion- ated style sometimes borders on obsessive ranting that earns praise from some officials and researchers but infuriates othersespecially when he repeats his conviction that "the government has lied to us, the feed industry has lied to usall over a buck." As evidence, Singeltary cites the USDA's testing approach, which targets downer cows and examined 19,900 of them in 2002. To him, the USDA should test 1 mil- lion cattle, because the incidence of BSE may be as low as one in a mil- lion, as it was in some European countries. That the U.S. does not, he thinks, is a sign that the government is really not interested in finding mad cows because of fears of an economic disaster. Singeltary got into the field of transmissible spongiform encepha- lopathy in 1997, just after his mother died of sporadic CJD. She had an especially aggressive versionthe Heidenhain variantthat first causes the patient to go blind and then to deteriorate rapidly She died just ten weeks after her symptoms began. Singeltary, who said he had watched his grandparents die of cancer, considered her death by CJD to be much, much worse: "It's something you never forget." Her uncon- trollable muscle twitching became so bad "that it took three of us to hold her one time," Singeltary recalled. "She did everything but levitate in bed and spin her head." Doctors originally diagnosed Alzheimer's disease, but a postmortem neuropathological exam demanded by Singeltary revealed the true nature other death. Laying Odds 225 Classifying a disease as "sporadic" is another way for doctors to say they don't know the cause. Normal prion proteins just turn rogue in the brain for no apparent reason. The term "sporadic" is often particularly hard for the victims' families to accept, especially when the patient was previously in robust health. Maybe it was something in the water, they wonder, or in the air, or something they atethe same questions CJD researchers tried to answer decades ago. The names "sporadic CJD" and "variant CJD" also confuse the public and raise suspicions that U.S. authorities are hiding something when they say there have been no native variant CJD cases in the country. Singeltary suspected an environmental cause in his mother's demise a feeling reinforced a year later when a neighbor died of spo- radic CJD. For years, the neighbor had been taking nutritional supple- ments that contained cow brain extracts. Researchers from the National Institutes of Health collected samples of the supplement, Singeltary recounted, and inoculated suspensions into mice. The mice remained healthywhich only means that those supplement samples tested were prion-free. Scientists have made several attempts during the past few decades to find a connection between sporadic CJD and the environment. Often, these studies take the form of asking family members about CJD vic- timstheir diet, occupation, medical history, hobbies, pets, and so forthand comparing them with non-CJD subjects. Such case-control CJD studies have produced some intriguingand sometimes contra- dictoryresults. In 1985, Carleton Gajdusek and his NIH colleagues reported a correlation between CJD and eating a lot of roast pork, ham, hot dogs, and lamb, as well as rare meats and raw oysters.2 Yet they also recognized that the findings were preliminary and that more studies were needed. Following up, Robert Will of the U.K. National CJD Surveillance Unit and others pooled this data with those from two other case-con- trol studies on CJD (one from Japan and one from the U.K.). In particu- lar, they figured the so-called odds ratiocalculated by dividing the fre- quency of a possible factor in the patient group by the frequency of the factor in the control group. An odds ratio greater than I means that the factor may be significant. In their study, Will and his collaborators found an increase of CJD in people who have worked as health profes- sionals (odds ratio of 1.5) and people who have had contact with cows 226 CHAPTER 14 (1.7) and sheep (1.6). Unfortunately, those connections were not statisti- cally significant: The numbers of pooled patients (117) and control sub- jects (333) were so small that the researchers felt the odds ratios needed to reach 2.5 to 8 (depending on the assumptions) before they could be deemed statistically significant. The only statistically significant corre- lations they found were between CJD and a family history of either CJD (19.1) or other psychotic disease (9.9), although the latter might simply be correlated because psychotic disease may be an early symp- tom of undiagnosed CJD.3 In contrast with earlier findings, the team concluded that there was no association between sporadic CJD and the consumption of organ meats, including brains (0.6). Although these case-control studies shed a certain amount of light on potential risk factors for CJD, it's impossible to draw firm conclu- sions. Obtaining data that produces statistically meaningful results can be difficult because of the rarity of CJD and hence the shortage of sub- jects. Human memory is quite fragile, too, so patients' families may not accurately recall the lifestyle and dietary habits of their loved ones over the course of a decade or more. Consequently, researchers must cope with data that probably contain significant biases. In a review paper on CJD, Joe Gibbs of the NIH and Richard T.Johnson of Johns Hopkins University concluded that "the absence of geographic differences in incidence is more convincing evidence against major dietary factors, since large populations eschew pork and some consume no meat or meat products."A CJD study of lifelong vegetarians, they proposed, could produce some interesting data.4 The inconclusive results of case-control studies do not completely rule out the environment as a possible cause of CJD. "Dr. Prusiner's theory does fit much of the data of spontaneous generation of [mal- formed] PrP somewhere in the brain," Will remarkedthat is, the idea that sporadic CJD just happens by itself falls within the realm of the prion theory. Still, "it's very odd, if you look at all the forms of human prion diseases there are, all of them are transmissible in the laboratory and could be due to some sort of infectious agent."5 One of the great difficulties, he explained, is that "given that this is a disease of an extraordinarily long incubation period, are we really confident that we can exclude childhood exposure that is transmitted from person to person, as people move around? It's difficult to be sure about that." There might a "carrier state" that leaves people healthy yet still able to Laying Odds 227 infect others. If so, "you would never be able to identify what's causing the spread of the disease," concluded Will, who hasn't stopped looking for a possible environmental link. He has some preliminary data based on studies that trace CJD victims' lives well before the time symptoms beganup to 70 years; they suggest some degree of geographic cluster- ing, but no obvious candidates for a source of infection. A Case for Undercounting The difficulty in establishing causal links in sporadic prion diseasesif there are any in the first placeunderlines the importance of thorough surveillance. The U.K. has an active program, and when a victim of CJD is reported, one of Robert Will's colleagues visits and questions the victim's family. "No one has looked for CJD systematically in the U.S.," the NIH's Paul Brown noted. "Ever."6 The U.S., through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has generally maintained a more passive system, collecting information from death certificates from the National Center for Health Statistics. Because CJD is invariably fatal, mortality data is considered to be an effective means of tabulating cases. The CDC assessed the accuracy of such data by comparing the numbers with figures garnered through an active search in 1996: Teams covering five regions of the U.S. contacted the specialists involved and reviewed medical records for CJD cases between 1991 and 1995. Comparing the actively garnered data with the death certificate infor- mation showed that "we miss about 14 percent," said CDC epidemiolo- gist Lawrence Schonberger. "That's improving. Doctors are becoming more knowledgeable," thanks to increased scientific and media atten- tion given to prion diseases.7 The active surveillance study of 1996, however, only looked at cases in which physicians attributed the deaths to CJD. Misdiagnosed patients or patients who never saw a neurologist were not tabulated thus CJD may be grossly underreported. Many neurological ailments share symptoms, especially early on. According to various studies, autopsies have found that CJD is misdiagnosed as other ills, such as dementia or Alzheimer's disease, 5 to 13 percent of the time. The CDC finds that around 50,000 Americans die from Alzheimer's each year 228 CHAPTER 14 (about 4 million have the disease, according to the Alzheimer's Association). Therefore, one could argue that thousands of CJD cases are being missed. (On the flip side, CJD could be mistakenly diagnosed as Alzheimer's disease or dementia, but the number of CJD patients is so small that they wouldn't dramatically skew the statistics for other neurological ills.) In part to address the issue of misdiagnosis, CJD families have asked the CDC to place the disease on the national list of officially notifiable illnesses, which tends to include more contagious conditions such as AIDS, tuberculosis, hepatitis, and viral forms of encephalitis. Currently, only some states impose this requirement. CDC officials have discounted the utility of such an approach, arguing that it would duplicate the mortality data, which is more accurate than early diag- noses of CJD, anyway. Moreover, mandatory reporting of CJD cases does not necessarily guarantee the end to missed cases.8 One clue suggests that the passive system is undercounting CJD in the U.S.: racial difference. The number of black CJD victims is about 38 percent that of white victims. Rather than sporadic CJD being a one- in-a-million lottery, it's more like one-in-2.5-million for African- Americans. Access to medical care might be one reason. Schonberger recounted that the CDC had asked other countries with substantial black populations to submit CJD figures for comparison but found that the surveillance in those countries was inadequate. "We haven't been able to find any comparable literature on this issue, so it's still up in the air," Schonberger said. On the other hand, Alzheimer's disease is more common among black people than whites, with an estimated higher prevalence ranging from 14 percent to almost 100 percent, according to a February 2002 report by the Alzheimer's Association. Are some black CJD cases being misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's? Answering critics like Terry Singeltary, who feels that the U.S. under- counts CJD, Schonberger conceded that the current surveillance system has errors but stated that most of the errors will be confined to the older population. As Schonberger pointed out, no doctor would misdiagnose a 30-year-old CJD patient as having Alzheimer's. The average age of the first 100 variant CJD victims was 29; should the epidemiology of vCJD changeif older people start coming down with itthen there would be problems. "The adequacy of our overall CJD surveillance would be Laying Odds 229 greatly reduced should the proportion of older individuals affected by variant CJD substantially increase," Schonberger explained.9 To date, only brain autopsies can confirm CJD. To encourage the necessary neuropathological studies, in 1997 the CDC helped establish the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center at Case Western Reserve University, under the directorship of Pierluigi Gambetti. But the number of brains examined has fallen far short of the number of CJD cases in the U.S.: Gambetti's lab, which receives brains based on referrals from local physicians and families, looked at only 99 sporadic CJD cases in 2000 and 138 in 2001, when about 300 each year are expected. "I'm very unhappy with the numbers," Gambetti lamented. "European countries see 100 or 90 percent of all the cases suspected. We see 30 to 40 percent."10 Most families don't think about having an autopsy done (which can cost upward of $1,500 if the hospitals don't pick up the tab), and mem- bers of the support group CJD Voice have said they were too distraught to think of shipping a loved one's brain by Federal Express to Gambetti's lab. (For accurate analyses of brain tissue, the autopsy must be performed within 72 hours of death, assuming the body has been kept refrigerated.) Moreover, physicians often do not suggest an autopsy, perhaps because of liability fears should the postmortem reveal that the original diagnosis was wrong. Gambetti has been work- ing on establishing a network that would enable postmortems to be done near where the deceased person lived and without cost to the family. He is also working on advertising the existence of his surveil- lance center, via meetings and letters to neurologists, pathologists, and other specialists. Gambetti is also attempting to combat what he termed "hysteria" over the potential for infection that has pathologists irrationally shunning CJD cases while they willingly conduct arguably riskier AIDS autopsies. "In order to make people aware, you have to keep informing them over and over and over," he said. Money is the main reason why the U.S. lags behind Europe in terms of surveillance. To adequately survey the 290 U.S. million residents, "you need a lot of money," Robert Will explained. "There was a CJD meeting of families in America in which poor old Larry {Schonberger] got attacked fairly vigorously because there wasn't proper surveillance. You could only do proper surveillance if you have adequate resources. 230 CHAPTER 14 That's the bottom line. We're very fortunate in the U.K.; we have very generous resources for CJD surveillance." Moreover, the U.K. makes feline spongifbrm encephalopathy an offi- cially notifiable disease. Domestic cats proved to be good sentinel ani- mals because they dine on the meat not fit for human consumption the parts more likely to harbor prion infectivity. In the U.S., FSE isn't federally notifiable. And while the USDA says it has sent educational material to private veterinarians and works with vet schools,21 it's not clear just how many vets can spot FSE, which has never been reported in the U.S. Certainly, not many cat postmortems are done. The only active portion of the U.S. CJD surveillance system are the follow-up investigations conducted for victims of CJD under 55 years of age. It began in 1996, when young people in the U.K. started succumb- ing to variant CJD. Victims under 30 years of age especially arouse interest, because such cases could indicate an infection from the envi- ronment. Except for the variant CJD case in Florida, the CDC has clas- sified all of these more youthful cases of CJD as having either sporadic or familial origins. One such age cluster involved the three venison eaters that the CDC tried unsuccessfully to link to the deer-and-elk borne chronic wasting disease. A second grouping occurred in 2002 in a pair of Michigan men. The twoone 26 years old, the other 28 did not know each other but lived in neighboring counties in Michigan and went to the same hospi- tal for diagnosis.12 The CDC's investigation turned up nothing that suggested a new form of CJD had emerged. But the increased frequency of young CJD cases is disturbing. In the 18-year period between 1979 and 1996, the U.S. had 12 cases in patients under 30, and only one of them had the sporadic form of CJD. (The other cases resulted from heredity or from transmission via contami- nated growth hormone or dura mater grafts.13) Between 1997 and 2001, five people under 30 died of sporadic CJD: the three venison eaters and the two Michigan patients. That represents a substantial blip of five young cases in five years, as opposed to only one case in 18 years. Physicians at the University of Michigan Health System who examined the two Michigan men concluded: As a result of our findings, we feel that sporadic CJD may be more common than previously thought, that it may occur in younger indi- Laying Odds 231 viduals than currently perceived, and that some cases may go undiag- nosed due to insufficient testing. . . . We recommend that physicians everywhere begin to consider CJD in rapidly progressive neurological decline of unknown causes in people under 30 years of age, and that brain biopsy and autopsy with genetic and prion analysis be performed in all such cases.14 Pathologically, the recent bout of young casualties in the U.S. appears to be no different from CJD already seen in America. Yet theoretically it may have come from a new source of infection, based on an unex- pected result announced in late November 2002. John Collinge of the British Medical Research Council's Prion Unit found that not all trans- genic mice infected with BSE prions developed the neuropathological and molecular characteristics of variant CJD; some of the mice instead generated the molecular features of sporadic CJD. Therefore, some CJD cases classified as sporadic may have actually been caused by BSE prions, Collinge hypothesized.15 So far, the epidemiology of CJD in the U.K. does not bear out that suppositionthere has been no substantial uptick in sporadic CJD as would be expected if BSE could paint more than one pathological picture. But the preliminary study, taken at face value, could be seen as evidence that something infectious is happening in the cases of young, sporadic CJD victims in the U.S. Another mouse study, reported in March 2002, fueled concern that prion infections may be more common than previously thought.16 Stanley Prusiner's lab found that mice infected with mouse prions accu- mulated PrPSc in their skeletal muscles, mostly in those in the hind limbs. In some mice, each gram of muscle contained some 10 million infectious doseson par with that in the brain in other experiments involving intracerebral inoculation. To some CJD researchers, this find- ing suggested that muscle meat from cows might not be safe, after all, and that the measures taken in Europe to protect the food supply banning high-risk cow partsmay not be enough. Although this study may seem alarming, its implications are not as sweeping as they may appear. Only a minority of results in mouse stud- ies end up having a direct analog in humans. The skeletal muscle discov- ery warrants further examination, but it would be premature to alter food policies. Prions are different for each species, and accumulation of prions varies from species to species and from disease to disease. Furthermore, BSE cattle muscle has failed to sicken mice in bioassay 232 CHAPTER 14 work, suggesting that little or no infectious prions lurk there. What such findings truly reveal is that prion diseases are complicated and still mysterious, and trying to quantify the risks for human health is fraught with uncertainties...snip...284 pages...thanks Philip...TSS The Pathological Protein: Mad Cow, Chronic Wasting, and Other Deadly Prion Diseases, Philip Yam Philip Yam News Editor Scientific

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who would buy a 10 year old cow? does the auction price match this?
where was the auction yard?

names please of dentition experts, web images of teeth please...

TSS
 
flounder said:
who would buy a 10 year old cow? does the auction price match this?


TSS

Terry- Some of these 10 year old gals still have 4 or 5 calves left in them...I watched 10+ year old bred cows sell yesterday for anywhere between $700 and $1000.....The young cows were selling for up to $1385 and some bred heifers sold for $1450.....
 
Subject: MAD COW ALABAMA Epidemiology Update March 17, 2006
Date: March 17, 2006 at 3:02 pm PST

MAD COW ALABAMA Epidemiology Update March 17, 2006

Epidemiology Update March 17, 2006

Federal and state officials today learned that in early 2005 the BSE-positive cow gave birth to a black, bull calf. We are in the process of tracing this animal.


http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/hot_issues/bse/bse_al_epi-update.shtml



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flounder said:
dang frenchie, you pulled the old vegsite trick on me.
this is what most ranchers do when they cannot dispute the science.


. ................TSS


Science what science....the science of scaring consumers about the safety of beef...

Kind of funny that you were the only poster to the mad cow portion of that site.

As far as you eating meat I very much doubt it :roll:
 
frenchie, it's not me you should be mad at, it's the USDA et al.
im not your enemy, you and ranchers like you are the cause of this.
others, well, they just did not know any better. wake up and smell the coffee. glad your hitting the vegsource site and learning though :lol: :lol: :lol:






Gerald Wells: Report of the Visit to USA, April-May 1989

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The general opinion of those present was that BSE, as an
overt disease phenomenon, _could exist in the USA, but if it did,
it was very rare. The need for improved and specific surveillance
methods to detect it as recognised...

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It is clear that USDA have little information and _no_ regulatory
responsibility for rendering plants in the US...

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3. Prof. A. Robertson gave a brief account of BSE. The US approach
was to accord it a _very low profile indeed_. Dr. A Thiermann showed
the picture in the ''Independent'' with cattle being incinerated and thought
this was a fanatical incident to be _avoided_ in the US _at all costs_...

snip...

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11b/tab01.pdf

To be published in the Proceedings of the
Fourth International Scientific Congress in
Fur Animal Production. Toronto, Canada,
August 21-28, 1988

Evidence That Transmissible Mink Encephalopathy
Results from Feeding Infected Cattle

R.F. Marsh* and G.R. Hartsough

•Department of Veterinary Science, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison,
Wisconsin 53706; and ^Emba/Creat Lakes Ranch Service, Thiensville, Wisconsin 53092

ABSTRACT
Epidemiologic investigation of a new incidence of
transmissible mink encephalopathy (TME) in Stetsonville, Wisconsin
suggests that the disease may have resulted from feeding infected
cattle to mink. This observation is supported by the transmission of
a TME-like disease to experimentally inoculated cattle, and by the
recent report of a new bovine spongiform encephalopathy in
England.

INTRODUCTION

Transmissible mink encephalopathy (TME) was first reported in 1965 by Hartsough
and Burger who demonstrated that the disease was transmissible with a long incubation
period, and that affected mink had a spongiform encephalopathy similar to that found in
scrapie-affecied sheep (Hartsough and Burger, 1965; Burger and Hartsough, 1965).
Because of the similarity between TME and scrapie, and the subsequent finding that the
two transmissible agents were indistinguishable (Marsh and Hanson, 1969), it was
concluded that TME most likely resulted from feeding mink scrapie-infecied sheep.
The experimental transmission of sheep scrapie to mink (Hanson et al., 1971)
confirmed the close association of TME and scrapie, but at the same time provided
evidence that they may be different. Epidemiologic studies on previous incidences of
TME indicated that the incubation periods in field cases were between six months and
one year in length (Harxsough and Burger, 1965). Experimentally, scrapie could not be
transmitted to mink in less than one year.
To investigate the possibility that TME may be caused by a (particular strain of
scrapie which might be highly pathogenic for mink, 21 different strains of the scrapie
agent, including their sheep or goat sources, were inoculated into a total of 61 mink.
Only one mink developed a progressive neurologic disease after an incubation period of
22 mon..s (Marsh and Hanson, 1979). These results indicated that TME was either caused
by a strain of sheep scrapie not yet tested, or was due to exposure to a scrapie-like agent
from an unidentified source.

OBSERVATIONS AND RESULTS

A New Incidence of TME. In April of 1985, a mink rancher in Stetsonville, Wisconsin
reported that many of his mink were "acting funny", and some had died. At this time, we
visited the farm and found that approximately 10% of all adult mink were showing
typical signs of TME: insidious onset characterized by subtle behavioral changes, loss of
normal habits of cleanliness, deposition of droppings throughout the pen rather than in a
single area, hyperexcitability, difficulty in chewing and swallowing, and tails arched over
their _backs like squirrels. These signs were followed by progressive deterioration of
neurologic function beginning with locomoior incoordination, long periods of somnolence
in which the affected mink would stand motionless with its head in the corner of the
cage, complete debilitation, and death. Over the next 8-10 weeks, approximately 40% of
all the adult mink on the farm died from TME.
Since previous incidences of TME were associated with common or shared feeding
practices, we obtained a careful history of feed ingredients used over the past 12-18
months. The rancher was a "dead stock" feeder using mostly (>95%) downer or dead dairy
cattle and a few horses. Sheep had never been fed.

Experimental Transmission. The clinical diagnosis of TME was confirmed by
histopaihologic examination and by experimental transmission to mink after incubation
periods of four months. To investigate the possible involvement of cattle in this disease
cycle, two six-week old castrated Holstein bull calves were inoculated intracerebrally
with a brain suspension from affected mink. Each developed a fatal spongiform
encephalopathy after incubation periods of 18 and 19 months.

DISCUSSION
These findings suggest that TME may result from feeding mink infected cattle and
we have alerted bovine practitioners that there may exist an as yet unrecognized
scrapie-like disease of cattle in the United States (Marsh and Hartsough, 1986). A new
bovine spongiform encephalopathy has recently been reported in England (Wells et al.,
1987), and investigators are presently studying its transmissibility and possible
relationship to scrapie. Because this new bovine disease in England is characterized by
behavioral changes, hyperexcitability, and agressiveness, it is very likely it would be
confused with rabies in the United Stales and not be diagnosed. Presently, brains from
cattle in the United States which are suspected of rabies infection are only tested with
anti-rabies virus antibody and are not examined histopathologically for lesions of
spongiform encephalopathy.
We are presently pursuing additional studies to further examine the possible
involvement of cattle in the epidemiology of TME. One of these is the backpassage of
our experimental bovine encephalopathy to mink. Because (here are as yet no agent-
specific proteins or nucleic acids identified for these transmissible neuropathogens, one
means of distinguishing them is by animal passage and selection of the biotype which
grows best in a particular host. This procedure has been used to separate hamster-
adapted and mink-udapted TME agents (Marsh and Hanson, 1979). The intracerebral
backpassage of the experimental bovine agent resulted in incubations of only four months
indicating no de-adaptation of the Stetsonville agent for mink after bovine passage.
Mink fed infected bovine brain remain normal after six months. It will be essential to
demonstrate oral transmission fiom bovine to mink it this proposed epidemiologic
association is to be confirmed.

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
These studies were supported by the College of Agricultural and Life Sciences,
University of Wisconsin-Madison and by a grant (85-CRCR-1-1812) from the United
States Department of Agriculture. The authors also wish to acknowledge the help and
encouragement of Robert Hanson who died during the course of these investigations.

REFERENCES
Burger, D. and Hartsough, G.R. 1965. Encephalopathy of mink. II. Experimental and
natural transmission. J. Infec. Dis. 115:393-399.
Hanson, R.P., Eckroade, R.3., Marsh, R.F., ZuRhein, C.M., Kanitz, C.L. and Gustatson,
D.P. 1971. Susceptibility of mink to sheep scrapie. Science 172:859-861.
Hansough, G.R. and Burger, D. 1965. Encephalopathy of mink. I. Epizoociologic and
clinical observations. 3. Infec. Dis. 115:387-392.
Marsh, R.F. and Hanson, R.P. 1969. Physical and chemical properties of the
transmissible mink encephalopathy agent. 3. ViroL 3:176-180.
Marsh, R.F. and Hanson, R.P. 1979. On the origin of transmissible mink
encephalopathy. In Hadlow, W.J. and Prusiner, S.P. (eds.) Slow transmissible
diseases of the nervous system. Vol. 1, Academic Press, New York, pp 451-460.
Marsh, R.F. and Hartsough, G.R. 1986. Is there a scrapie-like disease in cattle?
Proceedings of the Seventh Annual Western Conference for Food Animal Veterinary
Medicine. University of Arizona, pp 20.
Wells, G.A.H., Scott, A.C., Johnson, C.T., Cunning, R.F., Hancock, R.D., Jeffrey, M.,
Dawson, M. and Bradley, R. 1987. A novel progressive spongiform encephalopathy
in cattle. Vet. Rec. 121:419-420.

MARSH

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Subject: OIE REPORT ON BOVINE SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Date: March 18, 2006 at 11:50 am PST

BOVINE SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

See also: 1 July 2005

(Date of previous outbreak of bovine spongiform encephalopathy in the United States of America reported to the OIE: November 2004 and confirmed: June 2005).

Immediate notification report

Information received on 15 March 2006 from Dr Peter Fernandez, Associate Administrator, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), Washington, DC:

Report date: 13 March 2006.

Reason for immediate notification: re-occurrence of a listed disease or infection in a country following a report declaring the outbreak(s) ended.

Date of first confirmation of the event: 13 March 2006.

Date of start of the event: 27 February 2006.

Clinical disease: yes.

Nature of diagnosis: clinical and laboratory.

Details of outbreak:

First administrative division (State) Type of epide-miolo-gical unit Date of start of the outbreak Spe-cies Number of animals in the outbreak
susceptible cases deaths destroyed slaugh-tered
Alabama farm 27 Feb. 2006 bov 50 1 0 1 0

Description of affected population: a beef cow (aged at least 10 years) in a herd of approximately 50 beef cows and calves.

Diagnosis: the affected cow was examined and then culled because it was a non-ambulatory animal.

Laboratory where diagnostic tests were performed Species examined Diagnostic tests used Date Results
National Veterinary Services Laboratory, Ames, Iowa bov Western blot 11 March 2006 positive
immunohistochemistry pending

Source of outbreak or origin of infection: unknown or inconclusive.

Control measures undertaken: quarantine.

Other details/comments:

- This is the second confirmed case of indigenous bovine spongiform encephalopathy to be reported in the United States of America.

- The animal was culled, sampled, buried on the farm, and did not enter the animal and human food chains.

- Federal and Alabama State animal health officials are currently conducting an epidemiological investigation to gather further information on the herd of origin.

- Federal officials are also working to determine if there is any relevant feed history associated with this case.

Final report: no.




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BOVINE SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

See also: 16 March 2006

(Date of previous case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy in the United States of America reported to the OIE: December 2003 [in an imported animal]).

Immediate notification report

Information received on 27 June 2005 from Dr Peter Fernandez, Associate Administrator, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), Washington, DC:

Report date: 27 June 2005.

Reason for immediate notification: re-occurrence of a listed disease or infection in a country or zone/compartment following a report declaring the outbreak(s) ended.

Date of first confirmation of the event: 23 December 2004.

Date of start of the event: November 2004.

Nature of diagnosis: clinical and laboratory.

Description of affected population: the affected cow was born before the United States instituted a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban, which was placed in August 1997. The USDA has initiated an investigation to determine the animal's herd of origin.

Diagnosis:

This particular animal was identified for testing because, as a non-ambulatory animal, it was considered to be at higher risk for bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE).

The initial rapid screening test on the animal in November 2004 yielded an inconclusive result - this triggered the USDA to conduct the internationally accepted confirmatory immunohistochemical (IHC) test. The IHC test was negative, and thus the animal was considered negative.

As a result of an internal review by the USDA's Office of Inspector General (OIG), the OIG recommended that additional tests (using Western blot techniques) be conducted on the three samples that had yielded inconclusive results, but had tested negative on the confirmatory IHC test.

Two of these samples were further confirmed negative, but one sample yielded a positive result using the Western blot technique. This sample was also sent to the OIE Reference Laboratory for BSE in Weybridge, United Kingdom, where the Western blot test and an additional IHC test also yielded a positive result.

Laboratories where diagnosis was made Diagnostic tests used Date Results
National Veterinary Services Laboratory, Ames, Iowa rapid screening test November 2004 inconclusive
immunohistochemistry November 2004 negative
Western blot June 2005 positive
VLA Weybridge, United Kingdom - immunohistochemistry

- Western blot
June 2005 positive

Source of outbreak or origin of infection: unknown or inconclusive.

Control measures: as a non-ambulatory or "downer" animal, the cow had been prohibited from entering the human food supply. The carcass of the animal was incinerated.

Other details/comments:

- The first detection of BSE in the United States was made in December 2003 (see Disease Information, 16 (52), 280, dated 26 December 2003, and Disease Information, 17 (1), 1, dated 2 January 2004). The animal was determined and shown to have been imported from Canada (See Disease Information, 17 (2), 3, dated 9 January 2004). This case confirms a second detection in the United States.

- Given the variation in test results for this case, the USDA has changed its testing protocol. If another BSE rapid screening test results in inconclusive findings, the United States will run both the IHC and the Western blot confirmatory tests.


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Accomplished this day, Wednesday, December 11, 2003, Denver, Colorado


USDA 2003

We have to be careful that we don't get so set in the way we do things that
we
forget to look for different emerging variations of disease. We've gotten
away from collecting the whole brain in our systems. We're using the brain
stem and we're looking in only one area. In Norway, they were doing a
project and looking at cases of Scrapie, and they found this where they did
not find lesions or PRP in the area of the obex. They found it in the
cerebellum and the cerebrum. It's a good lesson for us. Ames had to go
back and change the procedure for looking at Scrapie samples. In the USDA,
we had routinely looked at all the sections of the brain, and then we got
away from it. They've recently gone back.
Dr. Keller: Tissues are routinely tested, based on which tissue provides an
'official' test result as recognized by APHIS
.

Dr. Detwiler: That's on the slaughter. But on the clinical cases, aren't
they still asking for the brain? But even on the slaughter, they're looking
only at the brainstem. We may be missing certain things if we confine
ourselves to one area.


snip.............


Dr. Detwiler: It seems a good idea, but I'm not aware of it.
Another important thing to get across to the public is that the negatives
do not guarantee absence of infectivity. The animal could be early in the
disease and the incubation period. Even sample collection is so important.
If you're not collecting the right area of the brain in sheep, or if
collecting lymphoreticular tissue, and you don't get a good biopsy, you
could miss the area with the PRP in it and come up with a negative test.
There's a new, unusual form of Scrapie that's been detected in Norway. We
have to be careful that we don't get so set in the way we do things that we
forget to look for different emerging variations of disease. We've gotten
away from collecting the whole brain in our systems. We're using the brain
stem and we're looking in only one area. In Norway, they were doing a
project and looking at cases of Scrapie, and they found this where they did
not find lesions or PRP in the area of the obex. They found it in the
cerebellum and the cerebrum. It's a good lesson for us. Ames had to go
back and change the procedure for looking at Scrapie samples. In the USDA,
we had routinely looked at all the sections of the brain, and then we got
away from it. They've recently gone back.

Dr. Keller: Tissues are routinely tested, based on which tissue provides an
'official' test result as recognized by APHIS
.

Dr. Detwiler: That's on the slaughter. But on the clinical cases, aren't
they still asking for the brain? But even on the slaughter, they're looking
only at the brainstem. We may be missing certain things if we confine
ourselves to one area.


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HISTORY OF THIS COW AND TESTING OF IT;




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Aguzzi Letter




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Markus Moser Prionics BSE-L




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Q&A Dr. Jean-Philippe Deslys




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> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:53:47 -0500
> > From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
> > Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> >
> > ##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
> > #####################
> >
> > Q&A Dr. Jean-Philippe Deslys
> >
> > 1. What is the standard regime for testing of suspect animals in the EU?
> >
> > The regime is an initial screening by a high-output test, the Bio-Rad
> > test. If a result raises suspicion, a confirmatory test is conducted
> > with the Western blot test.
> >
> > 2. How long has this been the case?
> >
> > Its a fairly recent development. Only recently has the Western blot
> > test become sensitive enough, with the addition of phospohtungstic acid
> > precipitation step. The Bio-Rad test (which Deslys helped develop) is
> > extremely sensitive, and the standard Western blot is extremely reliable
> > with high-signal test results. However, it had to be made more sensitive
> > for low-signal (samples with low density of malformed prions) samples.
> > It has been made more sensitive.
> >
> > Reproducibility is the problem with the IHC test. It is not
> > standardized; depending on the lab and its protocols, or even on the
> > technician involved in the test, one can get conflicting results.
> >
> > 3. Is there a way to measure the three tests in sensitivity, accuracy
> > and objectivity?
> >
> > Historically, yes. The IHC was the gold standard at one point, but we
> > have shifted to the Western blot. It requires less work, it is more
> > sensitive and its results are reproducible. IHC relies on localization.
> > If you have a weak signal case, you may get lucky and test a spot with a
> > high concentration of prions. But the opposite it true too; you can miss
> > an infection by testing a sample with low concentrations. Western blot
> > is much better for low signal situations.
> >
> > 4. The USDA in 2003 used the Western blot to confirm the BSE case in
> > Washington state, and it sent samples to the U.K. for independent
> > testing. In the case this November, which it announced was negative, it
> > instead used the IHC test and did not send samples to the U.K. Is this
> > good science?
> >
> > Its not logical. If you have two consecutive questionable screenings,
> > you do another test. I can only advise, its managements duty at USDA
> > to make the decisions. But when you have a discrepancy between the rapid
> > test and the IHC, it is only logical to confirm it with another test.
> >
> > 5. We are hearing now about a new strain of BSE, atypical BSE or aBSE.
> > Or BaSE. We have heard that IHC, the so-called gold standard, cannot
> > detect the variant. Is this true?
> >
> > Yes. There have been a few cases, one in Italy, one in Belgium, one here
> > in France. It seems to only affect very old animals. The distribution in
> > the brain is very different than we see with BSE, it looks very
> > different. The IHC test will come back negative.
> >
> > This his a very recent phenomenon. I have no opinion on its virulence.
> > We do not know where it comes from. It could be a version of sporadic
> > infection. Western blot caught them, but we would not even know it
> > existed if we werent running systematic testing in the EU.
> >
> > BSE was around for a long time before we caught it and by then, it was
> > everywhere. It had become highly infectious. It probably amplified due
> > to low-temperature rendering. The disease was recycled through the food
> > chain, and was given time to amplify. By the time it was identified,
> > even good cooking couldnt eliminate it.
> >
> > I cant stress enough that systematic testing is necessary. Withdrawing
> > all positives from the food chain is the best way to break the cycle.
> >
> > What can happen with testing of only cattle that are clearly at risk is
> > that several can remain undetected. Canada has tested about 30,000 head
> > of cattle and has three positives. That would indicate that there are
> > probably undiscovered cases. And what happens then is that the disease
> > is allowed to amplify. You have to maintain testing.
> >
> > When people choose to protect their economic interests over public
> > health, it can have a boomerang effect. It happened all through Europe.
> > They always deny; its not OUR problem, it is our neighbors problem.
> > And then a single case is discovered and the public reacts. The economic
> > results are devastating. It would be better to just assume BSE is
> > present and use systematic testing as protection. That way, the public
> > is reassured that it is not entering the food supply.
> >
> > By systematic testing, I mean doing as we do in the EU, which is to test
> > every animal over 30 months of age when it is slaughtered. In Europe,
> > three times as many cases of BSE have been caught by systematic testing
> > as by clinical testing (of clearly sick animals). In 2004, eight
> > clinical cases were discovered, 29 were discovered at rendering plants,
> > and 17 at slaughter. We should be using these tests as a weapon to
> > protect the public and to give them assurance that the food supply is
> > being protected.
> >
> > 6. USDAs list of specified risk materials excludes some products, like
> > blood and bone meal, that are banned in the EU and UK. Is our feed
> > supply safe?
> >
> > With SRMs, where do you stop? Tests have found prions in meat, nerves
> > travel through meat, and so on. The main infectivity is in the brain and
> > the spinal cord. A blood and bone meal ban in animal feed is not really
> > necessary, because except in cases of highly infective animals, it is
> > unlikely that they are dangerous in themselves. If you combine
> > systematic testing and targeted SRM removal, the brain and the spinal
> > column in cattle over 30 months, you can have a compromise that is both
> > safer and less costly than expanded feed bans.
> >
> > Certainly, you can stop the spread of BSE with a total ban on offal. But
> > it has to be a total ban. It cant be given to sheep or swine or
> > poultry. It would be very expensive and virtually impossible to
> > accomplish. You can have farmers using the wrong feed or transportation
> > errors.
> >
> > Systematic testing makes far more sense. I think of it as a thermometer.
> > It not only allows us to catch the disease, it also allows us to monitor
> > its progress. We can watch the levels of infectivity and if they start
> > going up instead of down, we can take measures.
> >
> > To an extent, our environment is contaminated. About 10 percent of wild
> > animals test positive for TSEs. If you recycle these agents, they can
> > evolve and get more dangerous. This is probably what happened with
> > BSE. It wasnt very dangerous until it evolved to the disease we know
> > today.
> >
> > People complain that testing is very expensive. It is much more
> > expensive to kill and test whole herds.
> >
> > 7. In your opinion, is infected feed the sole method of transmission of
> > BSE, apart from the very rare maternal transmission?
> >
> > Feed is the main problem. However, we are seeing some other
> > possibilities, including through fat and greases. Calves are fed milk
> > extracts, with the cream removed. To make it nutritious, they are using
> > fat and grease from cattle.
> >
> > (FOLLOW QUESTION: Would that allow BSE to develop into an infective
> > level in cattle younger than 30 months, assuming they might be getting
> > infected at a younger age?)
> >
> > 8. You were involved in a study that tested two primates who were fed
> > infected brain tissue. One eventually died of TSE; the other survived.
> > The press reported that the main finding was that it would take
> > something on the order of 1.5 kilograms of infected matter to create an
> > infection, but that seems to be an oversimplification. Could you explain
> > it further?
> >
> > The findings suggest that as little as five grams is enough to infect.
> > The 1.5 kilo figure is the amount of infected tissue that would have to
> > be ingested from an animal that would be below the threshold of
> > infection, and would test negative. In other words, even though a
> > younger animal may be developing the disease, it would take a
> > considerable amount of tissue to transmit the disease.
> >
> > An animal could be just below the testing level, and not be particularly
> > dangerous. But that is why you have to keep testing. Once it reaches the
> > threshold, it can become highly infective.
> >
> > 9. BSE is a pretty horrifying disease, but overall, it has killed less
> > than 200 humans, and only a handful in recent years. Listeria, by
> > comparison, kills thousands every year. Overall, how do you rate the
> > threat from BSE?
> >
> >
> > The overall risk is not particularly high. Over two million infected
> > animals went into the food chain in Europe, 400,000 of them before the
> > SRMs, the brains and spinal column, were removed from the carcass. Less
> > than 200 died, and less than 4,000 are at risk of developing the
> > disease. What we know now is that one particle is not going to kill you.
> > There has to be condensation of the prions to be truly dangerous.
> >
> > This is not a sterile world. But the danger is that now that the crisis
> > appears to be over, attention will turn elsewhere and that will allow
> > the disease to amplify again. Just as we stopped paying attention to
> > AIDS when medication seemed to control it, then were surprised when a
> > new and more infectious and aggressive strain appeared, we could be
> > surprised by a more serious strain of BSE. That is why I support
> > systematic testing for the long term. The object is to keep levels of
> > BSE low, and to recognize the danger if it suddenly pops back up. ...END
> >
> > TSS
> >
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> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: Q&A Dr. Jean-Philippe Deslys USDA REFUSAL TO USE WB ON
> > TEXAS COW WITH BSE SYMPTOMS (FULL TEXT)
> > Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:14:14 -0500
> > From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
> > Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
> > To: [email protected]
> > References: [email protected].


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BIO-RAD

> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: USA BIO-RADs INCONCLUSIVEs
> > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:37:28 -0600
> > From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Susan and Bio-Rad,
> >
> > Happy Holidays!
> >
> > I wish to ask a question about Bio-Rad and USDA BSE/TSE testing
> > and there inconclusive. IS the Bio-Rad test for BSE/TSE that
complicated,
> > or is there most likely some human error we are seeing here?
> >
> > HOW can Japan have 2 positive cows with
> > No clinical signs WB+, IHC-, HP- ,
> > BUT in the USA, these cows are considered 'negative'?
> >
> > IS there more politics working here than science in the USA?
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: USDA: More mad cow testing will demonstrate beef's safety
> > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:26:19 -0600
> > From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
> > snip...end
> >
> >
> > Experts doubt USDA's mad cow results
>
>
>
> snip...END
>
> WELL, someone did call me from Bio-Rad about this,
> however it was not Susan Berg.
> but i had to just about take a blood oath not to reveal
> there name. IN fact they did not want me to even mention
> this, but i feel it is much much to important. I have omitted
> any I.D. of this person, but thought I must document this ;
>
> Bio-Rad, TSS phone conversation 12/28/04
>
> Finally spoke with ;
>
>
> Bio-Rad Laboratories
> 2000 Alfred Nobel Drive
> Hercules, CA 94547
> Ph: 510-741-6720
> Fax: 510-741-5630
> Email: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
> at approx. 14:00 hours 12/28/04, I had a very pleasant
> phone conversation with XXXX XXXXX about the USDA
> and the inconclusive BSE testing problems they seem
> to keep having. X was very very cautious as to speak
> directly about USDA and it's policy of not using WB.
> X was very concerned as a Bio-Rad official of retaliation
> of some sort. X would only speak of what other countries
> do, and that i should take that as an answer. I told X
> I understood that it was a very loaded question and X
> agreed several times over and even said a political one.
>
> my question;
>
> Does Bio-Rad believe USDA's final determination of False positive,
> without WB, and considering the new
> atypical TSEs not showing positive with -IHC and -HP ???
>
> ask if i was a reporter. i said no, i was with CJD Watch
> and that i had lost my mother to hvCJD. X did not
> want any of this recorded or repeated.
>
> again, very nervous, will not answer directly about USDA for fear of
> retaliation, but again said X tell
> me what other countries are doing and finding, and that
> i should take it from there.
> "very difficult to answer"
>
> "very political"
>
> "very loaded question"
>
> outside USA and Canada, they use many different confirmatory tech. in
> house WB, SAF, along with
> IHC, HP, several times etc. you should see at several
> talks meetings (TSE) of late Paris Dec 2, that IHC- DOES NOT MEAN IT IS
> NEGATIVE. again, look what
> the rest of the world is doing.
> said something about Dr. Houston stating;
> any screening assay, always a chance for human
> error. but with so many errors (i am assuming
> X meant inconclusive), why are there no investigations, just false
> positives?
> said something about ''just look at the sheep that tested IHC- but were
> positive''. ...
>
>
> TSS
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Your questions
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:58:11 -0800
> From: To: [email protected]
>
>
>
> Hi Terry:
>
> ............................................snip Let me know your phone
> number so I can talk to you about the Bio-Rad BSE test.
> Thank you
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Bio-Rad Laboratories
> 2000 Alfred Nobel Drive
> Hercules, CA 94547
> Ph: 510-741-6720
> Fax: 510-741-5630
> Email: =================================
>
>
> END...TSS
>
>
> ######### https://listserv.kaliv.uni-karlsruhe.de/warc/bse-l.html
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>
> =====================================================
> =====================================================
>
> END....TSS
>

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Effect of Tissue Deterioration on Postmortem BSE Diagnosis by
Immunobiochemical Detection of an Abnormal Isoform of Prion Protein
Hiroko HAYASHI1), Masuhiro TAKATA1), Yoshifumi IWAMARU1), Yuko USHIKI1)2),
Kumiko M. KIMURA1), Yuichi TAGAWA1), Morikazu SHINAGAWA1) and Takashi
YOKOYAMA1)
1) Prion Disease Research Center, National Institute of Animal Health
2) Nippi Research Institute of Biomatrix
(Received 25-Aug-2003)
(Accepted 14-Jan-2004)
ABSTRACT. Surveillance for bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in fallen
stock in Japan is conducted with a commercial enzyme-linked immunosorbent
assay (ELISA) for mass screening, with Western blotting (WB) and
immunohistochemistry performed for confirmation of the ELISA. All tests are
based on immunological detection of an abnormal isoform of the prion protein
(PrPSc) in brain tissues, which have sometimes deteriorated by the time
samples from fallen stock reach a diagnostic laboratory. To evaluate BSE
surveillance procedures for fallen stock, we examined PrPSc detection from
artificially deteriorated BSE-affected bovine brain tissues with a
commercial ELISA kit and compared the results with those of WB. The optical
density (OD) values of the ELISA decreased with advancing deterioration of
the tissues, whereas no reduction in the signal for PrPSc was observed in
WB, even when performed after 4 days of incubation at 37°C. The progressive
decrease in the OD values in the ELISA appear to be caused by a partial loss
of the N-terminal moiety of PrPSc due to digestion by endogeneous and/or
contaminated microbial enzymes, and by the presence of ELISA inhibitors that
are generated in deteriorated tissues. These results suggest that WB is the
most reliable test for fallen stock, especially for cattle brains within
decaying carcasses.
KEY WORDS: BSE, ELISA, PrPSc, Western blot

[PDF (96K)] [References]

To cite this article:
Hiroko HAYASHI, Masuhiro TAKATA, Yoshifumi IWAMARU, Yuko USHIKI, Kumiko M.
KIMURA, Yuichi TAGAWA, Morikazu SHINAGAWA and Takashi YOKOYAMA "Effect of
Tissue Deterioration on Postmortem BSE Diagnosis by Immunobiochemical
Detection of an Abnormal Isoform of Prion Protein". J. Vet. Med. Sci.. Vol.
66: 515-520. (2004) .



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Another problem in testing fallen stock for BSE may arise from unequal
distribution of PrPSc in BSE-affected brains. Spongiform changes and
accumulation of PrPSc are most frequently observed in the obex region [15,
18], but, it could be quite difficult to collect the obex region precisely
from extensively deteriorated and liquefied brain tissue. Furthermore, in
such cases it would be difficult to perform IHC as a confirmation test.

It has been shown that sample autolysis does not affect detection of PrPSc
by means of WB [3, 5, 13]. Our WB results also demonstrated no reduction in
the PrPSc signal as a result of deterioration at 30*C or 37*C for up to 4
days, as so far examined (Figs. 2A and 3A). In this study, we showed that
several problems undermine the utility of the ELISA with deteriorated
samples, whereas WB remains very dependable. Therefore, WB might be the only
reliable procedure to detect PrPSc in severely damaged samples from fallen
stock...

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From: Terry S. Singeltary Sr. [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected].; BSE-L
Subject: Docket No. 2003N-0312 Animal Feed Safety System [TSS SUBMISSION
TO DOCKET 2003N-0312]

Greetings FDA,
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PLUS, if the USA continues to flagrantly ignore the _documented_ science to
date about the known TSEs in the USA (let alone the undocumented TSEs in
cattle), it is my opinion, every other Country that is dealing with BSE/TSE
should boycott the USA and demand that the SSC reclassify the USA BSE GBR II
risk assessment to BSE/TSE GBR III 'IMMEDIATELY'. for the SSC to _flounder_
any longer on this issue, should also be regarded with great suspicion as
well. NOT to leave out the OIE and it's terribly flawed system of disease
surveillance. the OIE should make a move on CWD in the USA, and make a risk
assessment on this as a threat to human health. the OIE should also change
the mathematical formula for testing of disease. this (in my opinion and
others) is terribly flawed as well. to think that a sample survey of 400 or
so cattle in a population of 100 million, to think this will find anything,
especially after seeing how many TSE tests it took Italy and other Countries
to find 1 case of BSE (1 million rapid TSE test in less than 2 years, to
find 102 BSE cases), should be proof enough to make drastic changes of this
system. the OIE criteria for BSE Country classification and it's
interpretation is very problematic. a text that is suppose to give
guidelines, but is not understandable, cannot be considered satisfactory.
the OIE told me 2 years ago that they were concerned with CWD, but said any
changes might take years. well, two years have come and gone, and no change
in relations with CWD as a human health risk. if we wait for politics and
science to finally make this connection, we very well may die before any
decisions
or changes are made. this is not acceptable. we must take the politics and
the industry out of any final decisions of the Scientific community. this
has been the problem from day one with this environmental man made death
sentence. some of you may think i am exaggerating, but you only have to see
it once, you only have to watch a loved one die from this one time, and you
will never forget, OR forgive...yes, i am still very angry... but the
transmission studies DO NOT lie, only the politicians and the industry do...
and they are still lying to this day...TSS


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still disgusted in Bacliff, Texas...TSS
 
According to My computing the US should have between 45 and 73 BSE animals alive today 03/18/06 in our National Herd.Can someone else confirm these figures.
 
Red Robin wrote;

If you're not in the cattle business and no law is forcing you to eat them , why get so worked up. Quit eating beef.
-------------

BSE/TSE go much further than the mad cow hamburger. anyway, i am thinking of buying a ranch with about 1000 head on it. you never know :wink:
 

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