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The Senate is holding hearings on oil speculation.....Interesting how they are tying it to being similar to the nontransparency/enforcement in Agriculture- the beef industry- and the parts of the farm bill that failed....

Speculation boosts oil prices
Recent investor interest in commodities is an issue of intense debate. Though some analysts say market fundamentals are playing a large role in the doubling of oil prices in a one-year span - driven by strong global demand and a shrinking supply - others believe that commodities investors have boosted the price of crude with speculative trading, treating oil as a hedge against inflation due to the weakened dollar.

"We have what I think is a speculative bubble, and the laws of bubbles is that all bubbles burst," said Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D. "The problem is, this bubble is causing a dramatic amount of damage to our economy and to individuals."

Nearly all of the witnesses agreed that speculation has artificially boosted the price of oil.

"Excessive speculation on energy trading facilities is the fuel that is driving this runaway train in crude oil prices today," said Gerry Ramm, president of Inland Oil Company.

Others tried to quantify the scope that speculation has had on crude costs.

"We're paying, some believe, as high as a 50% premium to the pockets of speculators that are operating in markets that are completely unpoliced," said Michael Greenburger, a University of Maryland professor and former CFTC official. "At least 70% of the US crude oil market is driven by speculators and not people with commercial interests."

Mark Cooper, director of research at consumer rights organization Consumer Federation of America, said $40 of oil's current price is "baloney" and can be chalked up to speculation, though Soros called that an exaggeration.

Soros said the increasing cost of discovering new oil reserves, diminished supply, foreign subsidies on petroleum product prices, and speculation have all contributed to higher prices - a "bubble" that may not burst until prices become so high that they drag the economy into a recession.

"Only when a recession is well and truly in place is a decline in consumption likely to outweigh the other factors."


Solution: Close the Enron loophole

Some suggested closing the "Enron loophole" as a possible solution to the speculation problem. The loophole, which was codified in the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, allows oil futures to be traded electronically in unregulated markets outside of the jurisdiction of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission.

"Americans may be surprised to learn that the oil futures markets were substantially deregulated by the CFTC staff decisions that were made behind closed doors," said Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash. "Now this London and Dubai loophole is keeping important U.S. energy trading in the dark and without proper light ... it can give manipulators free rein in energy markets."

As part of the recently-passed Farm Bill, Congress attempted to close that loophole, but Greenburger said language did not go far enough. He said the Farm Bill placed the burden on the public to prove a trade needs regulation rather than placing the onus on the trader to prove it does not need regulation. Greenburger said Congress should return the language of the original bill "this afternoon," saying that overnight it would bring the price of crude oil by 25%.

Greenburger also suggested that Congress impose increased margins for oil traders and regulate hedge fund owners' public speculation on oil prices.

"I find it highly ironic that when you control the price of oil, you can speculate it will go up to $150," he said.

Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley hedge funds own large amounts of oil futures, and have both recently said the price oil could go up to $150 or even $200 this year.

CFTC investigation
Last Thursday, the CFTC announced it had launched a wide-ranging probe into oil price manipulation six months ago, saying it would gather more information about the effect investors are having on the market.

The commission's public acknowledgment of a normally secret probe has sparked talk that it has evidence oil companies are withholding oil from the market in an attempt to manipulate prices.

Regarding speculators, CFTC has previously said that it had not found any evidence that traders were artificially inflating prices.

On the day the CFTC announced its investigation, crude oil futures dropped $4.41 - the third-biggest one-day slide since 1991 - and prices have hovered around that $127-a-barrel level since.

But some lawmakers were critical of CFTC's investigation.

"If we want our exchanges to be world leaders, they need to have transparency, and speed and integrity," said Sen. John Sununu, R-N.H.

Cantwell said the CFTC investigation will not go far enough and doesn't have any enforcement mechanism. As a result, she called it a "ruse to deflect criticisms" and an "abdication of oversight responsibility."

"It is clear to me that the CFTC is not doing everything that it can to protect consumers from oil price manipulation," said Cantwell. "CFTC's response is a toothless tiger."

Full Article:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/03/news/economy/energy_manipulation_hearing/index.htm?postversion=2008060311
 
Greenburger also suggested that Congress impose increased margins for oil traders and regulate hedge fund owners' public speculation on oil prices.

"I find it highly ironic that when you control the price of oil, you can speculate it will go up to $150," he said.

Can OPEC put money into hedge funds to push the board price higher?
Better than printing money!!!!
 
RobertMac said:
Greenburger also suggested that Congress impose increased margins for oil traders and regulate hedge fund owners' public speculation on oil prices.

"I find it highly ironic that when you control the price of oil, you can speculate it will go up to $150," he said.

Can OPEC put money into hedge funds to push the board price higher?
Better than printing money!!!!

Yep- and since essentially Congress stopped oversight and regulation of the oil commodities market (which before was regulated for 78 years ) with a midnight addition to a budget bill of the Enron loophole law in 2000 and GW told his CFTC to take an 8 year picnic- they could not do any business in or operate in the US like they are now- without transparency and without it being known and regulated...

The folks that are raping us at the gas pumps and with the heating oil speculation are oil countries like Dubai and UAE that are tied in with our own US lending, banking, and hedge companies like Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs... Companies that under regulation were not even allowed to invest in speculative investment- which was part of the cause of the mortgage bubble breaking.....

According to testimony from the fellow that represents the small oil companies and folks that deliver to you- Morgan Stanley now controls 70% of the heating oil needed in the state of Maine...
Its GW's elitist buddies that are controlling much of the price-screwing us at the fuel pumps- and profiteering 100 fold over....

Testimony on the current price of oil came out that 33% (approx. $40) of the cost of a barrel of oil is actual average cost of production and research-- 33% (approx. $40 is the OPEC rakeoff) and 33% (approx. $40 is the oil speculators profiteering)...It was pretty much agreed that the price of gas should be around the $2.25 a gallon mark- and could be brought down closer to that if CFTC just would conduct regulation of the oil commodity markets like they did previously for the 78 years before 2000.....

Something that should interest cattlemen and grain producers is the testimony coming from Sen Dorgan- that not only did GW tell the CFTC to take an 8 year paid picnic and do nothing when he came in office- but he has cut their budget and size by 8% while the trading volume in commodities that should have oversight has increased by 8000%......

If you get a chance to watch these ongoing hearings on CSPAN- I urge you to......
 
February 22, 2000—The CFTC transmits to Congress a staff report, "A New Regulatory Framework," which recommends changes to the CFTC's regulatory structure. The report details changes that will lessen the regulatory burdens on U.S. futures markets by creating a more flexible regulatory framework. At the same time, the framework provides the over-the-counter (OTC) markets with greater legal certainty. Much of this framework will be incorporated into the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000. (CFTC Press Release 4367-00, February 22, 2000)

March 6, 2000—The CFTC permits use of electronic signatures in lieu of handwritten signatures by customers of futures commission merchants, clients of commodity trading advisors, and commodity pool participants. (CFTC Press Release 4372-00, March 6, 2000)

March 28, 2000—The Commission participates in the first annual international Internet Surf Day, organized by the International Organization of Securities Commissions (IOSCO), which targets futures and securities fraud and abuse on the Internet. This Surf Day includes the participation of approximately 220 individuals from 21 regulators in 18 countries. The second Surf Day takes place on April 23, 2001. (CFTC Press Release 4399-00, May 15, 2000)

September 14, 2000—The CFTC and Securities and Exchange Commission announce an agreement providing for joint jurisdiction over security futures products, that is, single stock futures and futures on narrow-based stock indices. Under the agreement, which will be incorporated into the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, the CFTC retains exclusive jurisdiction over futures contracts on broad-based stock indices. (CFTC Press Release 4447-00, September 14, 2000)

November 22, 2000—The CFTC approves rules implementing the New Regulatory Framework. These rules are later superseded by passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 and most new rules were subsequently withdrawn. (CFTC Press Release, 4475-00, November 22, 2000)

December 21, 2000—President Clinton signs into law the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which, among other things, reauthorizes the Commission for five years, overhauls the Commodity Exchange Act to create a flexible structure for the regulation of futures and options trading, clarifies Commission jurisdiction over certain retail foreign currency transactions, and repeals the 18-year-old ban on the trading of single stock futures. On the same day, the CFTC withdraws most of the New Regulatory Framework; however, the amendments to Regulation 1.25 concerning investment of customer funds by futures commission merchants and derivatives clearing organizations are made effective immediately with some technical corrections. The amendments permit investment of customer funds in new types of instruments, such as money market mutual funds. (CFTC Press Release 4479-00, December 15, 2000; CFTC Press Release 4481-00, December 21, 2000)

Take a look at the dates...............all PRE-Bush. :lol:
 
Take a look at the dates...............all PRE-Bush.

Yep- and if you want to get into a (D) or (R) argument it was all done by an (R) dominated Congress :roll:

The former CFTC commissioner, and the Energy Dept Head of Investigation both testified that the current problems occurring with the oil specualtion could be handled ADMINISTRATIVELY if CFTC and Bush wanted to, without any law changes...The energy Dept did it with the electricity speculators in the south after Katrina- and they say CFTC could do the same.....

But they have done nothing except give the banking and corporate interests everything they want- at a huge cost to the average person..... :mad:

It was pretty well concluded by all the Senators that the inclusions in the Farm Bill were meant to include in the trading of West Texas Crude- but GW and the CFTC have already ruled it doesn't qualify :roll:
 
RobertMac said:
OT, don't let your dislike for Pres. Bush cloud your judgment. Neither party represents our conservative beliefs!

Yep, it's all shifted to the left. The Republican party are the liberals now and the Democrats are socialists.

But Bush still sucks.
 
Oldtimer said:
RobertMac said:
Greenburger also suggested that Congress impose increased margins for oil traders and regulate hedge fund owners' public speculation on oil prices.

"I find it highly ironic that when you control the price of oil, you can speculate it will go up to $150," he said.

Can OPEC put money into hedge funds to push the board price higher?
Better than printing money!!!!

Yep- and since essentially Congress stopped oversight and regulation of the oil commodities market (which before was regulated for 78 years ) with a midnight addition to a budget bill of the Enron loophole law in 2000 and GW told his CFTC to take an 8 year picnic- they could not do any business in or operate in the US like they are now- without transparency and without it being known and regulated...

The folks that are raping us at the gas pumps and with the heating oil speculation are oil countries like Dubai and UAE that are tied in with our own US lending, banking, and hedge companies like Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs... Companies that under regulation were not even allowed to invest in speculative investment- which was part of the cause of the mortgage bubble breaking.....

So why did they change the regulation? I am sorry if this is a stupid question but this commodities thing continues to confuse me :? :oops:

...or maybe I should ask what was the reason given for the change he he..
 
PrairieQueen said:
Oldtimer said:
RobertMac said:
Can OPEC put money into hedge funds to push the board price higher?
Better than printing money!!!!

Yep- and since essentially Congress stopped oversight and regulation of the oil commodities market (which before was regulated for 78 years ) with a midnight addition to a budget bill of the Enron loophole law in 2000 and GW told his CFTC to take an 8 year picnic- they could not do any business in or operate in the US like they are now- without transparency and without it being known and regulated...

The folks that are raping us at the gas pumps and with the heating oil speculation are oil countries like Dubai and UAE that are tied in with our own US lending, banking, and hedge companies like Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs... Companies that under regulation were not even allowed to invest in speculative investment- which was part of the cause of the mortgage bubble breaking.....

So why did they change the regulation? I am sorry if this is a stupid question but this commodities thing continues to confuse me :? :oops:

...or maybe I should ask what was the reason given for the change he he..

You should probably be asking former Senator Phil Gramm--The "loophole" was drafted by Enron Lobbyists working with Senator Gramm- who resigned office after the Enron Scandal....

The original law was set up in large part to allow for the creation of U.S. exchanges for the listing of a new sort of derivative security, the single-stock future. But with the allowance of the "loophole"- and the stopping of any regulations or oversight by GW and the CFTC it has became one big ripoff of the consumer/public- not only in oil futures, but in food speculation.....

Sen. Maria Cantwell, a Washington Democrat, called the Commodity Futures Trading Commission a "toothless tiger." She told the Senate Commerce Committee the CFTC's actions were inadequate to rein in speculation she blamed for crude oil's surge last month to a record above $135 a barrel.

The CFTC, the top U.S. futures market regulator, last week said it will step up surveillance of energy trading by tracking index funds and getting more information on oil contracts based on American crude that are traded in the United Kingdom.

But Cantwell told a Commerce Committee hearing the CFTC should revoke a no-action letter it issued in 2007 where it declined to regulate trading of the West Texas Intermediate oil contract (WTI) on the Dubai Exchange. She said the CFTC also should regulate WTI trading on a London exchange operated by the Atlanta-based IntercontinentalExchange.

If the CFTC declines to act, Cantwell said she would pursue legislation to close the "London-Dubai Oil Loophole." CFTC officials were not present to testify at the hearing.

In the hearings, testimony came out that the day the CFTC announced "investigations" oil prices dropped the most in 20 years- 7%....

But then the CFTC took a "milque toast" attitude to the investigation and instead of demanding info from London/traders/oil companies (or not be allowed to trade)- sent them a letter and questionaire asking them to fill out- giving them 30 days to provide the info :roll: ...But when one of the oil companies protested- the CFTC changed that to 90 days- so they can't/won't even begin their investigations for 3 more months :shock: :roll:
Then they made the ruling that the new rules in the Farm Bill do not pertain to West Texas Crude- and they've refused to enforce it....

The CFTC former commisioner (Greenburger) said that it does not matter where the exchanges are set up- Dubai or London- all these traders want to trade with US liquidity, thru and from the US- and if we order them to follow our laws- they will do it....They did for 78 years before until we quit regulating and allowed these US business's to do so in secrecy on these world markets..... :(
 
A copy of the e-mail I received back from Senator Tester in return to the e-mail I sent him yesterday....Apparently the section I included about the current "Throw the Bums Out" attitude I am hearing towards all D.C. incumbent politicians brought my quick response :wink:


Dear Richard:

Thank you for taking the time to contact me with your concerns about the effects of speculation on the oil markets.

Current oil prices defy the fundamentals of global supply and demand. Big oil is reaping record profits and speculation in financial energy markets is compounding the problem. The Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee recently held a hearing to examine the role of non-commercial, institutional investors in determining crude oil prices. These folks never touch the oil yet they make huge profits through financial gimmicks.

The Consumer-First Energy Act of 2008 (S. 2991) calls for greater oversight of financial speculation in energy markets. I recently signed a letter to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission asking them to take immediate action to protect consumers by ensuring that United States energy market futures are fully transparent and subject to direct Commission oversight. As these issues come before the Senate, be assured that I will keep your views in mind.

I appreciate the time that you have taken to be involved and informed about this matter. Please do not hesitate to contact me again in the future if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,

Jon Tester
United States Senator
 
PrairieQueen said:
hmmm.....do you suppose this is the real reason Bush wanted to veto the farm bill? Maybe I missed that in past discussions...

PrairieQueen- someone else see's it like you do....

McCain Defends 'Enron Loophole'
consortiumnews.com —

Sen. John McCain says he opposes the $307 billion farm bill because it would dole out wasteful subsidies, but his chief economic adviser Phil Gramm also wants to stop its proposed regulation of energy futures trading, a market that was famously abused when Enron Corp. manipulated California's electricity prices in 2001.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/McCain_Defends_Enron_Loophole

Heres another article on the hearings I found while searching for some stuff for Texan--I think the last two paragraphs sum up what needs to be done.....


June 3, 2008 SPECIAL REPORT: Speculation blamed for one-third of fuel prices
Tuesday, June 3, 2008

A third of the price that American consumers are paying for diesel and gasoline is because of foreign-driven speculation in U.S. oil markets, and a recent attempt to close the "Enron loophole" hasn't fixed the problem, several economic experts told U.S. senators on Tuesday.

However, those experts said that loophole could be closed by a "single action" of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. The economists said that the commission should not allow foreign market exchanges in London and Dubai to police themselves in terms of speculation on U.S. oil products.

"They're trading U.S. oil from West Texas," Michael Greenberger said. "Thirty percent of the market is an exchange which has no specific limits."

Greenberger, who is a professor at the University of Maryland School of Law and worked previously as the Justice Department's principal deputy associate attorney general, joined multibillionaire George Soros to testify with three other panelists. They addressed the topic, "Energy Market Manipulation and Federal Enforcement Regimes," during a hearing before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee on Tuesday, June 3.

The recently approved Farm Bill includes language designed to close the "Enron loophole" that allows unregulated foreign speculation into U.S.-produced oil.

The Commodities Futures Trading Commission is an independent government agency charged with protecting the public from fraud and manipulation by market players.

Greenberger said he's been told the Farm Bill will affect only one of countless oil trading contracts. He said the commodities commission needs to begin enforcing speculation standards for exchanges, adding that devaluation of the U.S. dollar would likely stop if "we can get our oil prices under control."

By doing as little as issuing a letter, the commission could close the loophole and potentially help America's economy, damaged recently by the housing market bubble, rising oil prices and the devaluing of the dollar.

"I think there is a correlation between the weak dollar and excessive speculation," Greenberger said. "Turning this regulation over to Dubai and the English is a joke."

Several senators and panelists decried speculatorswho purchase little to no actual product and may possess few actual assets – driving up the price of oil and petroleum products by trading futures of crude oil.

Panelist Mark Cooper, director of research for the Consumer Federation of America, said he believes $40 of a $125 barrel of oil goes to processing; $40 of it goes to OPEC profits; and $40 goes to market speculation.

"Commodities markets have ceased to play their vital role (of providing liquidity to the market)," Cooper said. "Instead, they've become engines of speculation, which drive prices up and drive commercial traders out of these markets."

Market manipulation includes some scenarios in which financial institutions buying up commodities in order to continue hedging their returns on speculation.

For example, Greenberger said Morgan Stanley recently became the largest holder of New England's home heating oil supplies, and is one of many companies hording energy supplies rather than selling them while the dollar remains weak.

"They don't want to release it if they can control the price," Greenberger said. "(Even) if there's a supply and demand problem, it's a question of hording here."

Soros said speculation is a problem, but said other underlying issues shouldn't be forgotten.

"If we now head into a recession, the price of oil will come down," Soros said. "But once you come out, the price will come back again. There is really a need to develop alternative sources of energy."

Panelists told the senators several facts about oil trading, although conflicting opinions about regulation and the control of speculative trading and oil processing proved complicated even for many of the industry leaders and national policymakers in the hearing room.

Mike Joyce, OOIDA's senior government affairs representative, watched Tuesday's hearing while seated about 10 feet from Soros. Joyce said he was impressed with the meeting, led by Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-WA.

"The chair did a very good job of keeping it substantive and not letting it spiral into an attack on the White House, per se," Joyce told Land Line. "I think they may be taking a tack that says, 'You know what, this White House is a lame duck, and we're just going to start moving past them.' "

Although recent congressional hearings have been viewed by many pundits as grandstanding, Joyce said he believes the senators at Tuesday's hearing seemed willing to consider tightened regulation or oversight of energy trading.

"There's oversight that's lacking or not taking place – so the private market is taking advantage of that," he said. "There are a lot of big, big dollars being spent in Washington to protect those who are making a lot of money in the marketplace. It's going to take strong, tough-minded leadership to push through on some of these issues and legislative proposals."

"We need more statesmen to stand up and do the right thing."

http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_Reports/2008/Jun08/speculation.htm
 

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