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NCBA Seeks More From GIPSA

Former NCBA President Says Industry Let Down by GIPSA, Fifth Third Bank




Katie Micik DTN Staff Reporter

DTN/The Progressive Farmer, 02/07/11



DENVER (DTN) -- The livestock marketing committee of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association is forming a task force to investigate solutions to the financial risks highlighted by Eastern Livestock Company's bankruptcy.



The committee also directed NCBA staff to work on getting a congressional oversight hearing into the Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration handling of its auditing and bonding responsibilities.



After Eastern's bank accounts were frozen last fall, the cattle brokerage which bought and sold cattle around the country collapsed. GIPSA stated that Eastern owes more than $130 million to 743 sellers in 30 states. Fifth Third Bank has also alleged Eastern may have had as much as $2.5 billion in fake transactions in which no cattle were actually traded.



The cattle brokerage's bankruptcy shined a bright light on issues within the industry -- checks, paperwork and regulation -- and the number of people hurt by the failure makes those issues hard to ignore, NCBA Chief Economist Gregg Doud said.



"That's what the staff has been asked today is to work with our states to come up with a group of people that can begin to address those issues," Doud told DTN after a committee meeting Friday during NCBA's annual convention. "I think the key point here, as you've seen today, is this is much more complex and much more complicated than most people realized going in. There are not easy answers to these questions. It's going to take a lot of thought."



He said NCBA staff will be reaching out to their state organizations, which will nominate people to the task force. They will meet and discuss the issues and hopefully present some policy resolutions at the summer meeting. Educating cattlemen on the issues is also a goal, which is why the meeting featured a panel that included representatives from several livestock markets and auctions hurt by bad checks from the cattle brokerage as well as a representative from Rabobank to discuss electronic payment methods and a vice president of a surety company to explain bonds.



FULFILLMENT OF RESPONSIBILITIES



Southeast Livestock Exchange co-owner John Queen, a former NCBA president, said he thinks the cattle industry was let down by two parties in the Eastern Livestock Bankruptcy: GIPSA and Fifth Third Bank, which was Eastern's main lender.



He said the bonding formulas provide inadequate protection and should be reviewed. Jim Odle, general manager of Superior Livestock, said he agrees the current bonding levels aren't sufficient but he's wary that revisions may be prohibitively expensive for small livestock markets and dealers.



The bigger issue, Queen said, is that GIPSA didn't audit Eastern Livestock in the last five years.



Queen said he was audited by GIPSA immediately after Eastern Livestock's checks started bouncing to make sure his business was still solvent. According to the bankruptcy petition, Eastern Livestock owes Southeast Livestock Exchange $774,513.45. He said it usually takes three days to complete an audit.



"They were the largest in the country, folks," he said. "Where was our regulatory agency? The thing is they won't challenge the big guy but have no problems auditing the small guys."


I think this is very ironic and comical-- that the group (NCBA) that has been fighting against USDA and GIPSA oversight the hardest-and against giving GIPSA back some of its original powers, as Congress ordered them to do-- is now blaming them for not enough oversight- and looking for ways to get them to do more :???:

Something I've seen for years- those that bench the loudest about too much government are the ones that scream the loudest blaming government and wanting government to fix it and take care of them when its their teat in the wringer-- and they are the ones on the short end of the stick ... :wink: :P :lol:
 
The bigger issue, Queen said, is that GIPSA didn't audit Eastern Livestock in the last five years.

Isn't this the outfit that is protesting against a full and comprehensive audit between NCBA and the CBB?
 
OT, it is R-CALF that calls for governmnt to OVER-regulate everyone else......BUT to leave them alone!

Tommy, the fact is, NCBA cooperated in the audit.......and NOTHING indicated the need for a further audit. Case closed........for anyone wanting the Beef Checkoff money to continue the excellent work and engage in much needed new efforts rather than just serving a few who want to spend it on a witch hunt trying to harm the Policy Division of NCBA.

Check the CBB website to learn what is being done to make our cattle/beef business better, if you have the courage! You also can check your state Beef Check off group website.

mrj
 
February 8, 2011



Evidence Suggests Corruption Runs Deep in Beef Checkoff Program



Washington, D.C. – In a letter sent last week to the U.S. Department of Justice (Justice), the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), USDA's Office of Inspector General (OIG), and the Cattlemen's Beef Board (CBB), R-CALF USA asserts that the National Cattlemen's Beef Association (NCBA) has long been improperly spending Beef Checkoff (Checkoff) funds to subsidize activities designed to influence governmental actions and policies, which are prohibited activities under the Beef Promotion and Research Act of 1985 (Checkoff Act).



NCBA – by its own admission – has routinely billed the Checkoff an unbelievable one-half of NCBA's officer travel, yet the laws governing the Checkoff make it clear that Checkoff funds are never to be used to influence governmental actions and policies related to the U.S. cattle industry.



"…This is preposterous as NCBA officers are the spokespeople for NCBA, and they have led NCBA's vehement opposition to some of the most critical and pivotal policy initiatives ever to face U.S. cattle producers – initiatives that we believe were supported by the preponderance of Checkoff-paying cattle producers," the letter states. "Allowing NCBA officers, with a fiduciary duty to advance the policy interests of their members, to subsidize their expenses through the Checkoff fundamentally violates conflict of interest principles that the government is obligated to prevent. To make matters worse, anecdotal evidence indicates that upwards of 60 percent to 70 percent of NCBA's overhead is paid with Checkoff dollars."



R-CALF USA is again calling for a thorough and probing investigation, going back at least 10 years, into NCBA's long history of Checkoff violations. R-CALF USA has furnished investigators with documents that list dates and locations of NCBA's policy activities that should not have been subsidized with Checkoff funds.



"Many of these dates and locations, beginning in 2002, were events where R-CALF USA publicly debated NCBA officers on policy related issues," said R-CALF USA CEO Bill Bullard. "We want investigators to determine if R-CALF USA members not only paid to have their voices represented by R-CALF USA at these events, but also, if they were unlawfully forced to pay half of NCBA 's officer travel so NCBA could fight against their interests through the wrongful use of R-CALF USA members' Checkoff contributions."



R-CALF USA asked investigators to determine if NCBA used Checkoff funds to participate in any of the following activities and events so they can determine the extent to which NCBA used Checkoff funds to promote its policy positions in violation of the Checkoff Act:



March 2002: NCBA commissions Sparks Co. Inc. to create a report titled "Potential Impacts of the Proposed Ban on Packer Ownership and Feeding of Livestock.



July 2002: NCBA President Eric Davis and R-CALF USA testify before the U.S. Senate Ag Committee about packer ownership of livestock and enforcement of the Packers and Stockyards Act.



November 2003: NCBA's Jay Truitt participates in a COOL summit in Denver, hosted by R-CALF USA.



February 2004: NCBA CEO Terry Stokes and R-CALF USA CEO Bill Bullard debate industry policies in La Junta, Colo.



April 2004: NCBA hires law firm, threatens to sue R-CALF USA for distributing video of the La Junta, Colo., debate between the two organizations.



April 2005: NCBA hires law firm to file an amicus brief on behalf of NCBA and 29 of its state affiliates in the lawsuit between R-CALF USA and USDA regarding USDA's administrative rule on mad cow disease.



September 2005: NCBA and R-CALF USA debate industry policies at the Clay County (Iowa) Fair Beef Industry Forum.



October 2005: NCBA and R-CALF USA debate industry policies at the Empire Farm Show in Seneca Falls, N.Y.; and, NCBA and R-CALF USA debate industry policies in Goliad, Texas.



November 2005: NCBA and R-CALF USA debate industry policies at the Wisconsin Livestock Industry Forum.



January 2006: NCBA and R-CALF USA debate industry policies at the Montana Winter Fair.



August 2008: NCBA attends Livestock Industry Country-of-Origin Labeling Implementation Meeting in Kansas City, Mo.



November 2009: NCBA participates in the Cattle Industry Animal Identification Roundtable Discussion in Kansas City, Mo.



March 2010: NCBA participates in the first competition workshop jointly sponsored by Justice and USDA.



July 2010: In Washington, D.C., NCBA participates in a congressional staff briefing session to oppose proposed livestock competition reforms.



August 2010: In Fort Collins, Colo., NCBA participates in rally to generate opposition to proposed livestock competition reforms and then participates in the competition workshop hosted by USDA and Justice.



November 2010: NCBA participates in a forum wherein NCBA provided a presentation in opposition to proposed livestock competition reforms.



December 2010: NCBA participates in the final competition workshop sponsored by USDA and Justice.



In addition to the CBB's finding that NCBA misappropriated nearly $217,000 in producer Checkoff dollars, R-CALF USA states that evidence abounds regarding NCBA's and its affiliated state organizations' strategic and unlawful use of their control over the Checkoff to exclusively influence governmental action to advance their policy positions. For example: in the July 2, 2010, issue of the Ag Journal*, the Colorado Cattlemen's Association (a state affiliate of NCBA) uses the Checkoff logo to legitimize the organization's fierce opposition to the GIPSA rule.



And, another example of flagrant disregard for the law and the incestuous conflicts of interest within the Checkoff can be found on the CBB Web site, at http://www.beefboard.org/library/cbb-publications.asp, which contains a document titled "Beef Industry Long Range Plan" and is touted by the CBB as the document that "guides program spending decisions."



"Yet, contrary to the Checkoff's clear and unambiguous prohibition against using any Checkoff funds in any manner for the purpose of influencing governmental action or policy, with the single exception of recommending amendments to the Order, this 'Long Range Plan' is replete with policy initiatives," said Bullard. "The conflicts of interest and other unlawful practices are so pervasive as to render the Checkoff as little more than a government-funded means of advancing NCBA's policy positions, helping to sustain NCBA and its affiliate organizations.



"Regardless of the positions of cattle producers on eliminating estate taxes, supporting a national animal identification system, or engaging in critical policy areas such as trade and cattle marketing, these initiatives developed by and distributed by the CBB are prohibited under the Checkoff," he pointed out. "It is no comfort to Checkoff-paying cattle producers that these initiatives were developed by representatives from McDonalds, Cargill Meat Solutions, Outback Steakhouse and Five Rivers Ranch Cattle Feeding.



"Indeed, these initiatives have provided NCBA the foundational arguments to aggressively oppose the GIPSA rule (e.g., by calling for limiting government involvement in business decisions), and the CBB is directly and inexplicably supporting this unlawful activity," Bullard concluded. "We, again, implore USDA and its OIG, as well as the Justice Department to take decisive action to stop the ongoing Beef Checkoff charade by immediately suspending the NCBA's contract with the CBB pending the completion of a thorough and probing investigation into all aspects of the Beef Checkoff."
 
mj...Tommy, the fact is, NCBA cooperated in the audit.......and NOTHING indicated the need for a further audit. Case closed........

What world are you living in mj? The fact is that a 1% audit found in 29 months $217,000 of checkoff dollars was either misused or abused is plenty of indication for the need for a full and comprehensive audit. This case is far from being closed. You and the NCBA may want it to be closed but it is not going away.
 
Tommy, there have been timely audits for years, most likely from the beginning of NCBA contracts with the CBB. Funds incorrectly attributed have been exchanged BOTH ways, I believe.

NCBA has to jump through more rigorous hoops to collect what is due them, with the result that they have LOST money on contracts if there were errors made. How do you 'know' there was none of that here?

The Federation 'connection' with NCBA is simply that they share meeting times and facilities for conventions, some speakers and staff, etc. to cut costs for BOTH groups, as does CBB.

USDA has always had oversight to assure laws governing the checkoff are followed.

The difference, IMO, is that now, it appears the Obama administration's USDA leadership wants to control the checkoff, and they find R-CALF and NFU willing pawns in the effort.

The problems stem from the fact that members of NCBA Policy division will not always bow to the demands of other organizations on Policy issues. And those issues are funded by DUES paying members, not checkoff dollars.

mrj
 
mrj said:
USDA has always had oversight to assure laws governing the checkoff are followed.



mrj

But as we saw with not only USDA- but the SEC,CFTC, FDIC, etal- they were all asleep at the wheel for years (told to take 8 year coffee breaks) - which led to the Bush Bust... And now with a little oversight, at least in USDA- we have some decent cattle/grain prices again...... :)

No-- nothing should surfice short of a total and complete audit-- and every cattle producer should be screaming for a total and complete audit of how their Checkoff (tax) dollars were used/misused by NCBA.....
 
According to you oldtimer EVERYTHING is Bush's fault, It get old after awhile to listen to your broken record of BLAME Bush!
Your arguments begin to lose strength when yoiu go that route.

EH?
 
hopalong said:
According to you oldtimer EVERYTHING is Bush's fault, It get old after awhile to listen to your broken record of BLAME Bush!
Your arguments begin to lose strength when yoiu go that route.

EH?

He blames the economy on Bush, but gives obama credit for the higher prices in cattle and commodities.

Next thing you know, he'll be telling us that high oil prices are a good thing. :lol: :lol:
 
OT: "But as we saw with not only USDA- but the SEC,CFTC, FDIC, etal- they were all asleep at the wheel for years (told to take 8 year coffee breaks) - which led to the Bush Bust... And now with a little oversight, at least in USDA- we have some decent cattle/grain prices again....."

Once again, you prove to the entire cattle industry how clueless you are about factors that affect cattle prices.

No mention of decreased beef supplies.
No mention of decreased cattle numbers.
No mention of increased export demand.
No mention of competitive meat supplies.
No mention of increased domestic beef demand.

No mention of anything relevant to the increase in cattle prices. To you, the increase in cattle prices is based on USDA oversight. Good grief. You are so clueless OT.

The truth is, cattle prices have rallied despite the fact that R-CALF has deperately unknowingly tried to hurt the cattle industry by :

1. Forcing feeders to sell fat cattle in a socialized marketing scheme that would not reward higher quality cattle

2. By breaking up the large packers into smaller less efficient packers that would pay less for fat cattle turning the industry back to the stone age

3. By forcing the beef industry to label US beef without proving the origination of that beef when 95% of the beef that would be labeled as US BEEF at the retail beef counter is US beef. REAL MEN OF GENIUS!

4. By trying to stop Canadian imports without having the common sense to realize that Canada would simply steal that portion of our export market and "TRADE" means "TRADE".

5. By turning US consumers away from beef consumption by using "bse fear mongering" to turn consumers away from Canadian beef without considering that we had a domestic case of bse ourselves ("like duh").

6. To end the beef checkoff because it doesn't isolate foreign beef as a novelty item to outsell domestic beef the same way New Zealand lamb outsold US Lamb once isolated

7. Spending countless producer dollars on frivolous lawsuits against packers based on conspiracy theories about price fixing and market manipulation without one stitch of proof to support them.

8. Filing a lawsuit against the original founder of R-CALF because a segment of R-CALF wouldn't drink the LMA Kool Aid.


The list of R-CALF head smacks against a brick wall go on and on.

R-CALF has done absolutely nothing to help this industry. What have they done about the Endangered Species Act? What have they done to promote beef consumption or are they unaware of the fact that beef sales affect cattle sales? Can someone name me one positive thing that R-CALF has done that isn't rittled with total ignorance about how this industry operates?


~SH~
 
Korean grocers were getting in trouble as they were labeling foreign product as Korean. Seems that "novelty" angle doesn't work well over there. Something to be learned here....
 
Sandhusker: "Korean grocers were getting in trouble as they were labeling foreign product as Korean. Seems that "novelty" angle doesn't work well over there. Something to be learned here...."

What is the foreign to domestic product ratio in Korea? I doubt it's 95% vs 5% as it is here at the retail level since food services is exempt from labeling. Do you honestly think our hispanic population would shy away from Mexican product? Do you think our consumers would shy away from Maple Leaf Source Verified Beef when it would be so rare in contrast to US BEEF? Oh wait, you probably do since you think the grocers would be better off grinding up the chucks and rounds to blend with our surplus 50/50 trim rather than importing cheap lean trimmings and selling the chucks and rounds for more money and paying cattlemen accordingly.

Perhaps the grocery industry should consult you on how to sell more beef.

I'll bet you disagree with exempting food service from Country of Origin Labeling too don't you? You'd probably have McDonalds employees slapping Country of Origin labels on their burgers wouldn't you? It wouldn't surprise me. You probably think a tray full of Canadian burgers would be getting cold huh? LOL!

Why don't you leave beef sales up to those who actually sell beef rather than assuming you know more about their business than they do.


~SH~
 
As I expected, you refused to recognize the obvious point in my post. I'll just say it, "The people of Korea put a higher value on domestic product".

There's a few things that the sellers of beef know that you don't - that the money is made in the buying and not the selling. They can buy US carcasses for x/lb. and sell the beef to consumers as US for $Y, or they can buy cheaper foreign beef for x-z/lb. and sell it to consumers who think it is US for $Y. Knowing that more money is to be made in the latter, that is what they've chosen and why they so vehemently and oftentimes dishonestly fight the former. It's not really difficult to understand at all.
 
Sandhusker: "As I expected, you refused to recognize the obvious point in my post. I'll just say it, "The people of Korea put a higher value on domestic product"."

US consumers obviously don't put a higher value on domestic product or they wouldn't shop at Walmart. Even if most US beef consumers preferred US Beef and it was differentiated, they wouldn't have any trouble finding it since 95% of the beef at the retail level is US Beef which is exactly why diffentiating US product served very little purpose.


Sandhusker: "There's a few things that the sellers of beef know that you don't - that the money is made in the buying and not the selling. They can buy US carcasses for x/lb. and sell the beef to consumers as US for $Y, or they can buy cheaper foreign beef for x-z/lb. and sell it to consumers who think it is US for $Y."

I am well aware of the concept of buying cheap and adding value. This is certainly an area to be concerned about within this industry but not at the current ratio of 95% to 5% at the retail level and also considering the importance of lean trimmings to add value to an otherwise virtually worthless product (50/50 trim).

The bottom line is that you can fight imports all you want but consumers outvote producers 98.5% to 1.5% so consumers will carry the votes on food. We have to compete on a value basis.

While you are focused on your concern with cheap beef imports, I am more concerned with cheap poultry and pork. You don't have to look past the shoppers in your family to see what beef's real competition is.


~SH~
 
While I serioiusly doubt your 95-5 ratio, that really doesn't matter. What matters is what is coming down the road. Brazil has made no bones over the fact that they want to feed the world - and that includes beef. Our very own (are they ours?) USDA seems intent on fulfilling their desires as they seek to lower our health standards lower via their Patagonia ruling and their shared desire that JBS take over our packing and feeding industries. If we don't take actions now, make no mistake about it, Brazil will take over our beef industry as China has taken over our electronics indusrtay.

The only chance we have to beat back the Brazilians is if our consumers reject foreign product and demand domestic - JUST AS THE KOREANS HAVE DONE.
 
When foreign beef constitutes a greater percentage at the retail meat counter, then it would make sense to promote domestic product over foreign. In order to do that, we would have to have an enforceable traceback system that you don't support (following the R-CALF mantra). Are you now ready to source verify your cattle or will you trust the large packers, that you do not trust, to mark beef accurately without an enforceable traceback system??

Oh wait, you'll just blame USDA again for their inability to accurately label foreign beef as R-CALF had intended. Whatever that means. Probabably means to enforce beef labeling without an enforceable beef labeling system. Just brand Brazillian cattle with a "B" and hope that the brand burns into all the packages of beef that animal will become right?

I just wish R-CALF and you were placed in a situation that you had to face the consequences of your shortsighted decisions instead of being able to always find a way to blame your way out of it.


~SH~
 
When foreign beef constitutes a greater percentage, it will be too late. At that point, producers will be sitting around look at themselves and asking, "What should we have done"?
 
As of now, we have the legitimate concern of H&M disease to prevent the SA cattle door from being thrown wide open. Lets hope we can continue to use that leverage.

There's another issue here Sandhusker, what percentage of SA cattle are grain fed vs grass fed? There's a quality issue here too. Sure, some customers prefer grass fed beef but the majority still prefer grain fed beef. Cyrovac aging might change that some.

You didn't answer my question, if SA cattle capture a larger share of our markets, will you be ready to source verify your cattle so that US BEEF can be differentiated in an enforceable manner or will you shoot your own labeling law in the foot again?

You have a choice to make Sandhusker. The "B", "C", and "M" brand bs won't cut it.


~SH~
 
Sandhusker: "US cattle can be verified as to country of origin this very day, SH."

Which doesn't have a darn thing to do with verifying the origin of the beef from those cattle in an enforceable manner. Remember, it is you that distrusts the packer so it's hypocritical of you to trust those same packers to verify beef origin without a valid traceback system to prove origination. USDA is the agency in charge of enforcing your flawed "M"COOL law, not R-CALF. USDA has told you they need a valid traceback system to enforce your law. You did not want traceback. Therefore, we have "MEX-CAN-USA" labels on our beef. You R-CALFers are responsible for that. Nobody else.

Hypocrite!


~SH~
 

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