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Neither Pro-Rodeo Or Ranch Rodeo Talked About Much Here

Well, gcreekrch, what any judge of any sport would tell you, "if you think you can do a better job, apply and be a judge".

Actually, I knew an older (40's) guy that a couple of PRCA judges wanted him to become a judge. At the time, he was supplying horses for the steer wrestling event. He told them, "there is no way I'm going to go thru what you guys go thru. Way to many people think you have favorites, instead acknowledging your judging skills. Contestants sometimes want to argue with you and you will tell them, if they want to keep their Permit or Card, they'd better knock it off (arguing)." PRCA has put into place, certain rules/policies against arguing with the Judges. Follow them, or............

As for me, I've never had a problem with the Judges. If I broke the "barrier", made a illegal head catch or no catch at all, or my "heeler" only got one leg, we got the extra penalty time or a "no time". We knew there were much better team ropers out there than us!
 
Cody-n-Nancy said:
Well, gcreekrch, what any judge of any sport would tell you, "if you think you can do a better job, apply and be a judge".

Actually, I knew an older (40's) guy that a couple of PRCA judges wanted him to become a judge. At the time, he was supplying horses for the steer wrestling event. He told them, "there is no way I'm going to go thru what you guys go thru. Way to many people think you have favorites, instead acknowledging your judging skills. Contestants sometimes want to argue with you and you will tell them, if they want to keep their Permit or Card, they'd better knock it off (arguing)." PRCA has put into place, certain rules/policies against arguing with the Judges. Follow them, or............

As for me, I've never had a problem with the Judges. If I broke the "barrier", made a illegal head catch or no catch at all, or my "heeler" only got one leg, we got the extra penalty time or a "no time". We knew there were much better team ropers out there than us!
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While I have never had a judges card or cared to, there have been several occasions in my life where a judge couldn't get to a rodeo and the assn asked me to judge a rodeo with full support from the contestants. I think that should tell you all you need to know about my integrity.
If we are going to drop names in the team roping world of yesteryear, the instructors who schooled me, be it Mike Beers, Dee Pickett, Rusty Wright, Bob McLellan or Ricky Green all told my partners and classmates that if I hadn't already had a family and a ranch that I would be a top contender in the sport. Fortunately for my marriage, I grew out of wanting to be a rodeo cowboy at 40 years of age. After having not picked up a rope or much less roped in an arena for 17 years I was asked to heel for a fine young header at a jackpot two years ago. We won against some good competition.
So, as many have tried to allude to you here, just because we don't puff up like peacocks and strut for attention doesn't mean that many of us have been there and done that.
 
gcreekrch said:
While I have never had a judges card or cared to, there have been several occasions in my life where a judge couldn't get to a rodeo and the assn asked me to judge a rodeo with full support from the contestants. I think that should tell you all you need to know about my integrity.
If we are going to drop names in the team roping world of yesteryear, the instructors who schooled me, be it Mike Beers, Dee Pickett, Rusty Wright, Bob McLellan or Ricky Green all told my partners and classmates that if I hadn't already had a family and a ranch that I would be a top contender in the sport. Fortunately for my marriage, I grew out of wanting to be a rodeo cowboy at 40 years of age. After having not picked up a rope or much less roped in an arena for 17 years I was asked to heel for a fine young header at a jackpot two years ago. We won against some good competition.
So, as many have tried to allude to you here, just because we don't puff up like peacocks and strut for attention doesn't mean that many of us have been there and done that.
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Well, wife and I don't "puff up like peacocks" or "strut for attention", be we are both simply very happy about who we've met in pro-rodeo. Don't have a problem at all mentioning names, not "dropping names". My wife can't understand why you folks think we shouldn't mention names, or as you call it "dropping names". I've met Mike and Dee. Both were great team ropers. I watched them win the World.

But, from your last post, you don't think very highly of today's PRCA Judges, right? Well, to a point, wife and I have to agree with you. When we watch a rodeo on the Cowboy Channel or at one, we sometimes wonder about a score or time. Was watching a go-around of the Guymon, Oklahoma rodeo last night and during barrels, the announcer didn't say the time that was on the clock shown on tv. He was a couple of tenths-of-a-second over. We just don't get it!
 
leanin' H said:
It ain't bragging if your talking about timed events anyway Gcreek. It's an admission of shame 😂😂😂
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Oh yea, I'm laughing like heck..........not!! Those that don't like to brag, definitely shouldn't, but don't condemn those that do. Same thing goes for mentioning peoples names.
 
Actually, I'm starting to wonder if any of the members here, who have, or had, kids in 4-H or FFA, stated how proud they were that their kid/kids won a Blue Ribbon at a State/County Fair.

Numerous folks have told me "proud that you served" in the Navy during Nam. I would simply say "thanks", with a smile.
 
Just wondering, are you folks trying to tease me enough that I will leave? Remember, just wondering? Or, perhaps I should start teasing about rough stock riding. Come to think about, that would help me! LOL
 
I just stated the truth about what I said to the doctors. I already said that I have a saddle I won team roping. But I was 39 when I won that saddle and I was 24 when I told the doctors I was too young to be a team roper.
 
Cody of course we are proud of our kids accomplishments!!! But I don't brag on myself much, although I am pretty dang amazing! 😂😇
I think we all just rodeo for different reasons. For me it was to match wits and strength with a bull. The crowd was just background noise. I couldn't hear the announcer or anything. I wasn't a top contender. I rode bulls because I loved too. Which is probably what lots of guys without much talent say 😃
Nothing I've ever done in life meant as much to me as the things my kids and wife and parents have done. There is a huge difference in being proud of a child who wins a stockshow belt buckle or giving thanks to a veteran who served the nation and being all full of myself because I got on a few bulls a long time ago. Maybe if I'd of won a world champion I'd feel different?
And of course we are teasing you. Don't take it personal. It's what we do. We aren't trying to run anyone off. We just dig a spur on each other from time to time.
 
Well, it's sort of weird with rodeo cowboys and barrel racers. There are those that show very little-to-no emotions after getting a great score/time and then there are those that will get a great score and throw their arms and/or hat in the air, knowing they got a great horse/bull ride.

Last night, after the Guymon, Oklahoma barrels, the winning racer left her horse (by her trailer?) and ran into the arena to be interviewed by the girl working for the Cowboy Channel. The barrel racer was all smiles and had no problem being "on camera".

I remember seeing Fred Whitfield, after making a great time in Tie-Down, throwing his arms in the air and doing the "lift the roof off" motion thing. I also remember seeing Cody Ohl and Brent Lewis win the same go-around at the NFR and ride together around the arena on the same horse, waving their hats to the crowd with big smiles.

Some folks don't like much-to-any-attention and some folks do.

When wife and I both won $200 each at an Indian Casino in So California, we were very happy. Left the casino right after winning. It was during the day when we won, so had no problems.
 
I was an aspiring bareback rider in high school. The fourth horse I got on had taken my travelling partner to first place for the weekend the day before. We got to 6 seconds when he fell and rolled on me. A hoof went down my arm, cracked it and a collarbone and broke three ribs. I was 16 at the time and doing my best not to tear up on my way back to the chutes.
The stock contractor rode up and asked if I was ok and I told him I was likely looking for a ride to the hospital. He then looked at my 6' 4", 155 lb self and asked if I was one to take advice.
I answered.. At times......

He said a kid built like you should take up team roping.

Forty years later I crossed paths with him shortly before his death and got to thank him for his sage advice. We had a good laugh over it.
 
gcreekrch said:
I watched the NFR for the first time in 25 years this winter while I was at my sister in law's after my hip replacement. Judging looked to be about as crooked and biased toward a few competitors especially in the bareback riding as ever.
Our local Stampede which I have been arena manager for years had some poor, biased judging several years ago. I was prepared with a pair of coke bottle toy glasses I had bought at the dollar store. The first indication of favouritism and I rode over to both judges and asked who needed the glasses. It brought the house down and the judging was very fair for the rest of the Stampede
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I heard some comments that the bronc riding judges weren't good and perhaps biased.

Glad you are sticking around Gcreek!!!
 
Back in the 60's, we use to do all our cattle work a-horseback. Now us farm boys didn't have any free time for rodeo or such. We went from calving season to planting crops and fencing, getting cows out to pasture then piling square bales of hay all summer. The rodeo team consisted of mostly town kids that yearned for the glamour of ranch life! Lol

Whenever we moved cattle ourselves, we would either have a "lead rider" or truck to show them the way and a handful of "drag" riders and one "good dog" to keep the cattle bunched up. Now if somebody got careless and pushed a little too hard (usually the "good dog"), a calf might run back toward home. In that case someone would ride through the herd to find a gentle cow that didn't have her's trailing along behind and cut her back to go link up with the wayward calf and return him to the fold. Usually that worked well. Nobody carried ropes and seldom were the horses going faster than a trot.

When we had "real cowboys" helping, the ropes were constantly swinging, calves being "heeled" and calves regularly cutting back. Then the whole bunch would gallop off after the calf with ropes-a-swinging, totally abandoning the herd! Eventually they would dejectedly return and report how many fences they had chased the calf through. When we finally reached the pasture, we would hear them commenting how lucky we were that they were there or we wouldn't have gotten any of those cows up there! That evening, we would let the bawling cows out the gate to come back home to pick up their calves then drive them back up to pasture another day.

There's a big difference between being a stockman and a cowboy!
 
deff said:
Back in the 60's, we use to do all our cattle work a-horseback. Now us farm boys didn't have any free time for rodeo or such. We went from calving season to planting crops and fencing, getting cows out to pasture then piling square bales of hay all summer. The rodeo team consisted of mostly town kids that yearned for the glamour of ranch life! Lol

Whenever we moved cattle ourselves, we would either have a "lead rider" or truck to show them the way and a handful of "drag" riders and one "good dog" to keep the cattle bunched up. Now if somebody got careless and pushed a little too hard (usually the "good dog"), a calf might run back toward home. In that case someone would ride through the herd to find a gentle cow that didn't have her's trailing along behind and cut her back to go link up with the wayward calf and return him to the fold. Usually that worked well. Nobody carried ropes and seldom were the horses going faster than a trot.

When we had "real cowboys" helping, the ropes were constantly swinging, calves being "heeled" and calves regularly cutting back. Then the whole bunch would gallop off after the calf with ropes-a-swinging, totally abandoning the herd! Eventually they would dejectedly return and report how many fences they had chased the calf through. When we finally reached the pasture, we would hear them commenting how lucky we were that they were there or we wouldn't have gotten any of those cows up there! That evening, we would let the bawling cows out the gate to come back home to pick up their calves then drive them back up to pasture another day.

There's a big difference between being a stockman and a cowboy!
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Exactly! Growing up on a ranch and getting time off once a year for the fair and rodeo was a treat. I wasn't good at any competition because my abilities were all from actual ranch work and I wasn't afforded the many hours necessary for repetitive practice.
 
Las Vegas/NFR:
Vegas/NFR trip: Wore our masks at DIA and definitely on the airline (Frontier). No problems with people onboard. All wearing a mask, unless eating/drinking. Wife and I were wearing our black felt hats, but only seen a couple of people wearing a cowboy hat. Sort of surprised, but then again, DIA is "Denver", Colorado's version of Los Angeles (LOL). Also surprised that Frontier served drinks/snacks. Beer, wine and mixed drinks were available to purchase. Flight was very nice, going over the Rockies and seeing snow on top of them.

Wife and I will say this for sure, "Vegas sure has changed since we were there in 2006!" We stayed at The Mirage and it was noisy! Not a place for Seniors to stay. Anything pulled out of the frig, had to be paid for. Had to use room key card to go up elevator. The Mirage's Buffet had closed, not to reopen. So, had Breakfast Buffet at: MGM, Cosmopolitan and Circus-Circus. Worst one, Circus-Circus. Best one, MGM. Cosmopolitan, just "ok". Dinner Buffet at South Point......excellent! Parking at The Mirage, Cosmo and MGM costs after 60 minutes. Wife got a MLife Card (credit), so parking at Mirage and MGM cost us nothing. Circus-Circus and South Point was free parking.

After MGM Buffet breakfast, headed over to Top 15 Tie-Down Ropers autograph session in the MGM. Only 14 were there. Tuff Cooper was a "no show".

Stopped by South Point to take a look at Ariat Championship Team Roping and their version of Cowboy Christmas. Seen the new 2022 Miss Rodeo America (Miss Colorado) in their Show Room. Later, went back there to watch the NFR on really BIG screen tv and tremendous speaker system.

Went to Cowboy Christmas at Convention Center. Stopped by to listen to Justin and Janie, "live" on the Cowboy Channel. What did we find out at Cowboy Christmas? The younger generation has taken over with the flat hats and the "look at me" clothes for young ladies. Wife and I were pretty stunned (to say the least).

So, Bottom Line is: If we do go back, will most definitely stay at South Point...........NOT on the Strip! The Cosmopolitan has 68 floors in their hotel! Stopped at the Rio, pretty much "dead"! Circus-Circus and Sam's Town the same way. Looks like ALL casinos have smoking now. YUK!! But, at South Point, seen very, very few smokers. That was very nice.

Last night there, at The Mirage, got very, very lucky on slots and, between us, won some $500.
 
Maybe the reason the flying NFR rodeo fans were wearing a mask but no cowboy hat was because they were going to Las Vegas to rob the casinos and didn't want to be identified as "cowboys." :ROFLMAO:
 

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