Big Muddy rancher
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W.T said:
What model?
I got a 605N
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What model?
I got a 605N
gcreekrch
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Hayguy said:
Is that a vote from the side that grinds it up and feeds it? :lol:
Big Muddy rancher said:
I'm looking at trying a Vermeer. Out of curiosity, why the N as opposed to the M? Near as I can figure on Vermeer's page the N is a "Cornstalk Special". Is there a reason to have the N rather than the M?
Big Muddy rancher
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Silver said:
As I understand it the Super M 605 is no longer built and it is replaced with the 605N. So a Super M is a 2014 and the N is a 2015. :?
Big Muddy rancher said:
I wonder what changed so dramatically that the minimum required horsepower went from 80hp with the Super M to 150hp with the N? Sounds hard on fuel.... I guess I better call the salesman before I work myself into a lather lol
New 600N series round balers can be used for hay, forage and cornstalk bailing.
Vermeer Corporation has introduced a new series of round balers that includes two models designed for high-capacity hay and forage production, and an additional two models specially designed for the rigors of cornstalk baling. The 604/605N balers and 604/605N Cornstalk Special balers deliver the strength, productivity and operating convenience of classic Vermeer Super M technology – but with added capability and enhanced performance.
"The first thing you notice about the new 600N series balers is the sleek, modern design that evokes a sense of force and motion," said Phil Chrisman, Product Manager at Vermeer. "Upon closer inspection, you will recognize many well-designed, heavy-duty components that made Super M balers so popular, as well as several new features that contribute to the high performance and durability of this new line of balers."
600N series balers are equipped with 5-bar pickups, a Direct Crop Feed system that enables the forage crop to be fed directly to the bottom drum and bale-starting chamber, the patented dual-stage belt tightening system that reduces the chamber size by 50 percent and allows the hay to turn quicker. An optional netwrap system is also available. These are all features carried over from the Super M series.
New features include an optional pickup clutch that automatically stops the pickup when desired bale size is reached, lessening inadvertent overfill of the bale chamber and helping to protect the rollers, bearings and belts. Tool-less gauge wheel adjustments make it easy to adjust pickup height. The new E-Link Pro display coupled with optional scale kit and moisture sensors provides convenient access to bale weight and moisture readings. In addition, an optional auto-lube greasing system provides automatic lubrication to critical bearings at user-defined intervals.
"These new features are intended to offer a productivity advantage and enhance operator convenience, and we're confident operators will appreciate the simplicity and usability of these additions," said Chrisman. "Whether you intend to produce large 6-foot diameter hay bales or cornstalk bales, 600N series balers offer the strength, durability and performance needed to get the job done."
Source: Vermeer
Next they are coming up with a no stop baler
Vermeer Corporation has introduced a new series of round balers that includes two models designed for high-capacity hay and forage production, and an additional two models specially designed for the rigors of cornstalk baling. The 604/605N balers and 604/605N Cornstalk Special balers deliver the strength, productivity and operating convenience of classic Vermeer Super M technology – but with added capability and enhanced performance.
"The first thing you notice about the new 600N series balers is the sleek, modern design that evokes a sense of force and motion," said Phil Chrisman, Product Manager at Vermeer. "Upon closer inspection, you will recognize many well-designed, heavy-duty components that made Super M balers so popular, as well as several new features that contribute to the high performance and durability of this new line of balers."
600N series balers are equipped with 5-bar pickups, a Direct Crop Feed system that enables the forage crop to be fed directly to the bottom drum and bale-starting chamber, the patented dual-stage belt tightening system that reduces the chamber size by 50 percent and allows the hay to turn quicker. An optional netwrap system is also available. These are all features carried over from the Super M series.
New features include an optional pickup clutch that automatically stops the pickup when desired bale size is reached, lessening inadvertent overfill of the bale chamber and helping to protect the rollers, bearings and belts. Tool-less gauge wheel adjustments make it easy to adjust pickup height. The new E-Link Pro display coupled with optional scale kit and moisture sensors provides convenient access to bale weight and moisture readings. In addition, an optional auto-lube greasing system provides automatic lubrication to critical bearings at user-defined intervals.
"These new features are intended to offer a productivity advantage and enhance operator convenience, and we're confident operators will appreciate the simplicity and usability of these additions," said Chrisman. "Whether you intend to produce large 6-foot diameter hay bales or cornstalk bales, 600N series balers offer the strength, durability and performance needed to get the job done."
Source: Vermeer
Next they are coming up with a no stop baler
Big Muddy rancher
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Silver said:
The brochure I have still list the 605N as 80hp and the Cornstalk special as 150hp.
Don't suppose you have many corn stalks to bale up there but maybe it could roll up some poplar trees.
Here's a link to the same article but published in BEEF magazine. They have some pictures and a little better explanation.
http://beefmagazine.com/beef-cattle-feed/why-you-must-remove-net-wrap-round-bales-feeding-cattle?page=1
Look at that wad of net wrap pulled from a rumen. No wonder the calf died :shock:
http://beefmagazine.com/beef-cattle-feed/why-you-must-remove-net-wrap-round-bales-feeding-cattle?page=1
Look at that wad of net wrap pulled from a rumen. No wonder the calf died :shock:
Hayguy
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gcreekrch said:
:lol: no quite the opposite, i hate twine, the only thing worse than iced in froze down twine tied bales is iced in froze down net crap bales. i can cut off 25 square bales faster than i can get the twine off a round bale. nothing should eat plastic whether it go's through or not
3 M L & C
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I am curious what the price of the continuous baler will be? Bmr why did you choose a Vermeer baler? I don't know anything about them and was wondering if there are features that set them apart for you. As far as the corn stalk baler needing more power. I would bet they just say 150 horse cause corn stalks take more power to bale them up than anything else. You don't really role up corn stalks its kind of just a big wad. We baled up a few acres of corn stalks this fall and with my 105 horse tractor can bale feed at 1700 psi as fast as could stand to ride it 7-8 mph. Corn stalks I could only get 4.4 mph at same pressure.
Big Muddy rancher
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3 M L & C said:
I have heard good reports on the Vermeer, my salesman sells both NH and Vermeer and likes the Vermeer better. A mechanic at the dealership a couple of years ago was telling me the Vermeer baled circles around the NH at their demo days. I was pretty satisfied with my 664 but my neighbor had nothing but trouble with his 780. The Vermeer was the cheapest of the three including a JD.
Amo
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I see both sides of this. Know of a guy who bought a new bull and paid good money for him. His boy was a vet, so they posted him. Died because of net in his gut. With that said, the vast, vast majority of hay in my general area goes through a bale processor. Me, my neighbors, about everybody I know leaves it on. The twine almost always is on the flails. Very rarely does it not get wrapped up on the rotar/flails. Net, well that is a little different. I think it varries by brand. I bought some hay once and had chunks of net on the ground from the processor 5' long. Last year I bought some and didn't hardly have any on the ground. I use solar degradable twine. Guess I feel ya net may be faster. If I have to get off in a blizzard, pull the froze stuff off, then shove it in the cab.....sitting for 15 seconds to put on twine really isn't all that bad!
As far as tub grinders, I don't think anybody pulls twine or net off. As mentioned above, if your grinding 40-50+ bales an hour, you don't have the time. Especially if the grinder man calls about 4 hours ahead of time to let ya know he is comming to grind!
As far as tub grinders, I don't think anybody pulls twine or net off. As mentioned above, if your grinding 40-50+ bales an hour, you don't have the time. Especially if the grinder man calls about 4 hours ahead of time to let ya know he is comming to grind!
sandhiller
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Soapweed said:
Soapweed
when the twine/wrap is frozen, do you drop the bale and let it turn a few times before trying to cut twine/wrap?
Brad S
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Seems like iced down wrap/twine is more comm
burnt
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I am finding out this winter what frozen netwrap is about. Although only in a small way since it's only some bedding bales that I have outside.
Almost all of our hay is either wrapped in tubes or under a roof.
But the bedding is outside and getting that stuff off is just a bear. I can spend 3 or 4 minutes getting it off of one frozen bale. I have found that dumping the bale on the ground a few times is helpful.
But I'm glad I don't have to do bedding more than a couple of times a week.
Almost all of our hay is either wrapped in tubes or under a roof.
But the bedding is outside and getting that stuff off is just a bear. I can spend 3 or 4 minutes getting it off of one frozen bale. I have found that dumping the bale on the ground a few times is helpful.
But I'm glad I don't have to do bedding more than a couple of times a week.