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Big Muddy rancher

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I have a belt half turned on my NH664 baler.
Does anyone remember how you let the tension off the belts?

I know it's not that hard I just can't remember and I haven't found the owners manual. :?
 
On my NH 648 there is a rod with a handle on the end on the right hand side (when looking at it from behind) of the baler that I pull out of the "lock" and turn 90 degrees. This locks the tension arm arm up - when I lift the tailgate all the way and let it back down the tension is off and the belts go loose. Twist away! I had belts running back and forth, flipping over and doing the half-twist thing this summer.

I just got done putting new belts on mine last week. Ouch. But it solved the problem. Maybe it could have been fixed just by making sure they were all the same length, I don't know, but I do know that I hate fixing machinery.

How does 9000 bales sound for the first set of belts? About 1000 were haylage. Wish I had a silage special.
 
Yep, Burnt got it. Lift the endgate up a little better than halfway, then twist the 1/4" steel rod handle to the right. You'll see a pin move out of the body and sit under the tension arms. Let the endgate down and away you go.

Burnt, make sure your belts are tracking properly. I forgot to do this after fixing belts on my 664 and one belt ate all the way through the sledge frame this year. $660 for a new frame, and its a real bugger to change it out.

Burnt - To get even more belt life, adjust the length every 2 - 3000 bales. While 10,000 bales isn't bad life, I know custom guys who get 20 - 30,000 out of a set of belts by adjusting them. And store the baler in a shed or cover it when not in use. UV kills belts.

Rod
 
Rod, I was really lucky that I didn't do the same thing to my frame. The outside belt was running to one side and cut most of the way through the frame. It was reparable but took a lot of welding and grinding to get a smooth surface. It is amazing that a rubber belt can cut through a 3" x 1/2" steel plate.

I tried re-lacing a belt that broke this summer and it held for about 50 bales . . . .

Do you all re-lace your own?
 
burnt said:
Do you all re-lace your own?
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I do. I use nothing but Gator lacing though. That Clipper junk won't last on a hardcore baler (or any other one for that matter, terrible crap). A gator lacing tool will run you around $175.00 and the lacing is around 35 bucks which does two splices.

If you had trouble with Gator lacing, a couple tricks:
1) make sure the little alligator pictures are facing up in the tool. It will lace the other way, but not well.

2) If you're using diamond top belts, buff the first 3/4" or so smooth. It helps the lacing seat better.

3) Always angle the corners and never lace right to the edge of a belt.

4) When you start seating the gator rivets, make sure you hit each rivet at least 8 times before you really begin pounding on them. More hits is better (to a point anyway).

Rod
 
Thanks Rod. I wondered if the lacing was at fault because it just opened up like it was made of black wire. My lacer is old and not wide enough either. It should be about 1 inch wider so it takes two squeezes to crimp the lacing.

But hey, I finished baling yesterday. Unless I try to bale cornstalks this fall. Lovely job that it is.
 
burnt said:
Thanks Rod. I wondered if the lacing was at fault because it just opened up like it was made of black wire. My lacer is old and not wide enough either. It should be about 1 inch wider so it takes two squeezes to crimp the lacing.

But hey, I finished baling yesterday. Unless I try to bale cornstalks this fall. Lovely job that it is.
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I baled stalks one year then I had to replace all the teeth in my baler,won't do that again.
 
What some guys do around here is cut them with a discbine or flail mower and then bale them. One year we waited until spring and then raked them with a side rake into windrows before baling. It made very good bedding but even after breaking down over the winter the stalks were awfully stiff. They seemed to get stuck anywhere they could.

I would like to try chopping stalks into a forage wagon right behind the combine to see if it would make silage. It should if there is a bit of moisture left in the stalks.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Thanks Guys :D

Got the belt turned back. I have had so little trouble I guess i had forgotten how to do that.

The haybine has kept me busy fixin' this summer. :? :mad:
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And you wonder why,I call you big dummie from big beaver :roll:
good luck
 
burnt said:
What some guys do around here is cut them with a discbine or flail mower and then bale them. One year we waited until spring and then raked them with a side rake into windrows before baling. It made very good bedding but even after breaking down over the winter the stalks were awfully stiff. They seemed to get stuck anywhere they could.

I would like to try chopping stalks into a forage wagon right behind the combine to see if it would make silage. It should if there is a bit of moisture left in the stalks.
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They sure would here if we get a late frost they don't dry down much in the fall.
 
Denny said:
burnt said:
What some guys do around here is cut them with a discbine or flail mower and then bale them. One year we waited until spring and then raked them with a side rake into windrows before baling. It made very good bedding but even after breaking down over the winter the stalks were awfully stiff. They seemed to get stuck anywhere they could.

I would like to try chopping stalks into a forage wagon right behind the combine to see if it would make silage. It should if there is a bit of moisture left in the stalks.
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They sure would here if we get a late frost they don't dry down much in the fall.
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We got a good frost last night up at the north place...Not sure how cold it actually got- but a heavy covering of frost as the sun came up.. And they say it will be 95 tomorrow and 100 on Monday :shock:

But the Blackbirds are really a gathering so falls on its way...
 
Oldtimer said:
Denny said:
burnt said:
What some guys do around here is cut them with a discbine or flail mower and then bale them. One year we waited until spring and then raked them with a side rake into windrows before baling. It made very good bedding but even after breaking down over the winter the stalks were awfully stiff. They seemed to get stuck anywhere they could.

I would like to try chopping stalks into a forage wagon right behind the combine to see if it would make silage. It should if there is a bit of moisture left in the stalks.
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They sure would here if we get a late frost they don't dry down much in the fall.
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You be quiet I've got corn that NEEDS another 30 days at least but it was cold here last night also and suppose to be in the 40's tonight..

We got a good frost last night up at the north place...Not sure how cold it actually got- but a heavy covering of frost as the sun came up.. And they say it will be 95 tomorrow and 100 on Monday :shock:

But the Blackbirds are really a gathering so falls on its way...
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