None of the Above

[Larrry]

I would love to vote for a True conservative. However there is not a single candidate who is a true conservative, none. How did we get to the position we are in nowdays. It was through incrementalism. Since I won't have the option of voting for a true conservative, I have to accept the fact that the only rational way to turn things around is threough incrementalism. Quit looking for the utopia that doesn't exist and lok at things as what is possible. Only settling for that true conservative will only take us further into the depths of socialism.

 

[katrina]

I think It all starts at the ground up.. Meaning we need to send better people to our capitols. thus making washington a better place.. Nice to see a civil discussion without any name calling or slang. well done!!!

 

[smalltime]

Sorry Larry if it seemed that wayto you.I meant no offence or judgement to FH.Sorry Faster Horses if you are offended.I also am tired of voting for the lesser evil and have sworn every time I do it to never do it again,but every election I find myself in the voting booth.IMO the only hope for America is Ron Paul.I know noone is perfect but because I trust in the ten commandments and the constitution Ron Paul comes the closest to tha ideaology.

 

[Larrry]

Sorry Larry if it seemed that wayto you.I meant no offence or judgement to FH.Sorry Faster Horses if you are offended.I also am tired of voting for the lesser evil and have sworn every time I do it to never do it again,but every election I find myself in the voting booth.IMO the only hope for America is Ron Paul.I know noone is perfect but because I trust in the ten commandments and the constitution Ron Paul comes the closest to tha ideaology.

You are welcome to vote the way you want. I have no problem with that. However too many have refused to vote for the lesser of two evils and we end up with the most evil. Each election bring us a little more evil. We first have to stop the train before we can think about turning it around full steam ahead in the direction of conservatism.

I just feel RP would have a problem doing what it call for in his oath:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

 

[Anonymous]

Actually I think Ron Paul might be one of the strongest for our defense and carrying out his constitutional duty

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Paul is the only one of the candidates that has actually seen/been in war- and I think would do the most to prevent sending our fine young men into another one... Only one of the candidates I trust to not go nationbuilding again and in doing so spending Trillions of the taxpayers dollars....

I have to chuckle when he calls the rest of the candidates "chickenhawks"....

 

[hypocritexposer]

Actually I think Ron Paul might be one of the strongest for our defense and carrying out his constitutional duty

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Paul is the only one of the candidates that has actually seen/been in war- and I think would do the most to prevent sending our fine young men into another one... Only one of the candidates I trust to not go nationbuilding again and in doing so spending Trillions of the taxpayers dollars....

I have to chuckle when he calls the rest of the candidates "chickenhawks"....

Yet, you voted for obama...... :???:

 

[smalltime]

I agree Oldtimer.He will go to congress get adeclaration of war and then win that war.None of this police action.AT least that is what he says.And I for one believe him.

 

[hopalong]

A recent poll (which oldtimers is so fond of) shows that 61% to 39% do not feel a military record is any indication of ability to perform the duties required of a presidential canidate

 

[Lonecowboy]

Soap- there were more than two choices last time- Ron Paul was also on the ballot here in MT- in other states Chuck Baldwin was the "Constitutional Party" candidate. and where did anyone ever get the idea I wasn't going to vote?????? I will most definatly vote- it just may or may not be for one of the 2/1 party candidates. if they are both liberals where is the choice in that? You mentioned mccain- would he have taken us towards socialism/collectivism or towards personal Liberty? He would have taken us the same direction as obama, just a lesser speed. Yes that is better but it is NOT good- it is only good in that it is slower.
So ask yourself if ___________ is elected are they going to take us toward personal Liberty or more collectivism? The only one that stands out from the crowd that I can see so far is Ron Paul. Is he a perfect person. No. Is he a good man- I say yes from what I have seen. ( Now before Tam jumps in here with allegations of racism etc. He does not stand for that- he renounces those newsletters- claims he never believed that way.- claims not to believe that way now. Even if he did before I know my mind has changed in the last 22 years- so can anyones- even if he believed it before he can repent and renounce it now and all should be forgiven.) What we don't see is guys like romney say romney care was a mistake- obama care is unconstitutional etc. Lets say romney become one of the "two" choices- How can I vote for him and then complain about obamacare? How can I pray for God to remove the heavy hand of obamacare from our land when I just voted to perserve it?

 

[Anonymous]

Soap- there were more than two choices last time- Ron Paul was also on the ballot here in MT- in other states Chuck Baldwin was the "Constitutional Party" candidate. and where did anyone ever get the idea I wasn't going to vote?????? I will most definatly vote- it just may or may not be for one of the 2/1 party candidates. if they are both liberals where is the choice in that? You mentioned mccain- would he have taken us towards socialism/collectivism or towards personal Liberty? He would have taken us the same direction as obama, just a lesser speed. Yes that is better but it is NOT good- it is only good in that it is slower.
So ask yourself if ___________ is elected are they going to take us toward personal Liberty or more collectivism? The only one that stands out from the crowd that I can see so far is Ron Paul. Is he a perfect person. No. Is he a good man- I say yes from what I have seen. ( Now before Tam jumps in here with allegations of racism etc. He does not stand for that- he renounces those newsletters- claims he never believed that way.- claims not to believe that way now. Even if he did before I know my mind has changed in the last 22 years- so can anyones- even if he believed it before he can repent and renounce it now and all should be forgiven.) What we don't see is guys like romney say romney care was a mistake- obama care is unconstitutional etc. Lets say romney become one of the "two" choices- How can I vote for him and then complain about obamacare? How can I pray for God to remove the heavy hand of obamacare from our land when I just voted to perserve it?

I think McCain would have been worse than Obama- because I'm convinced we would have us tied into another major war and more nationbuilding...He was a Bush #3... If I hadn't of been convinced it was so important that we needed to do everything to end the Bush reign I would have voted for Paul again in 08- I did before- and supported him in those joke primary caucus's Montana tried...

Can't stand Baldwin- as he is too tied to the white supremacist movement- wanting to build an all white state within a state in NW Montana.. The only reason he moved there from Florida last year...

Besides Paul- so far I like what I see of Gary Johnson.... If Paul doesn't get the Repub nomination- I would love to see a Paul/Johnson Libertarian ticket..

 

[Larrry]

In order to make the difference you claim, they first have to be elected.

Walk softly and carry a big stick, If Ron Paul carried a big stick then I could support him. If the enemy doesn't think anyone will stand up they will pester you all day.

Remember RR and his inauguration day. He carried a big stick and see what Iran did. He didn't start a war like his detracters claimed he would.

 

[hypocritexposer]

Soap- there were more than two choices last time- Ron Paul was also on the ballot here in MT- in other states Chuck Baldwin was the "Constitutional Party" candidate. and where did anyone ever get the idea I wasn't going to vote?????? I will most definatly vote- it just may or may not be for one of the 2/1 party candidates. if they are both liberals where is the choice in that? You mentioned mccain- would he have taken us towards socialism/collectivism or towards personal Liberty? He would have taken us the same direction as obama, just a lesser speed. Yes that is better but it is NOT good- it is only good in that it is slower.
So ask yourself if ___________ is elected are they going to take us toward personal Liberty or more collectivism? The only one that stands out from the crowd that I can see so far is Ron Paul. Is he a perfect person. No. Is he a good man- I say yes from what I have seen. ( Now before Tam jumps in here with allegations of racism etc. He does not stand for that- he renounces those newsletters- claims he never believed that way.- claims not to believe that way now. Even if he did before I know my mind has changed in the last 22 years- so can anyones- even if he believed it before he can repent and renounce it now and all should be forgiven.) What we don't see is guys like romney say romney care was a mistake- obama care is unconstitutional etc. Lets say romney become one of the "two" choices- How can I vote for him and then complain about obamacare? How can I pray for God to remove the heavy hand of obamacare from our land when I just voted to perserve it?

I think McCain would have been worse than Obama- because I'm convinced we would have been tied into another major war and more nationbuilding...He was a Bush #3... If I hadn't of been convinced it was so important that we needed to do everything to end the Bush reign I would have voted for Paul again in 08- I did before- and supported him in those joke primary caucus's Montana tried...

Can't stand Baldwin- as he is too tied to the white supremacist movement- wanting to build an all white state within a state in NW Montana.. The only reason he moved there from Florida last year...

Besides Paul- so far I like what I see of Gary Johnson.... If Paul doesn't get the Repub nomination- I would love to see a Paul/Johnson Libertarian ticket..

so you are hoping for another 4 years of obama then?

 

[Lonecowboy]

Soap- there were more than two choices last time- Ron Paul was also on the ballot here in MT- in other states Chuck Baldwin was the "Constitutional Party" candidate. and where did anyone ever get the idea I wasn't going to vote?????? I will most definatly vote- it just may or may not be for one of the 2/1 party candidates. if they are both liberals where is the choice in that? You mentioned mccain- would he have taken us towards socialism/collectivism or towards personal Liberty? He would have taken us the same direction as obama, just a lesser speed. Yes that is better but it is NOT good- it is only good in that it is slower.
So ask yourself if ___________ is elected are they going to take us toward personal Liberty or more collectivism? The only one that stands out from the crowd that I can see so far is Ron Paul. Is he a perfect person. No. Is he a good man- I say yes from what I have seen. ( Now before Tam jumps in here with allegations of racism etc. He does not stand for that- he renounces those newsletters- claims he never believed that way.- claims not to believe that way now. Even if he did before I know my mind has changed in the last 22 years- so can anyones- even if he believed it before he can repent and renounce it now and all should be forgiven.) What we don't see is guys like romney say romney care was a mistake- obama care is unconstitutional etc. Lets say romney become one of the "two" choices- How can I vote for him and then complain about obamacare? How can I pray for God to remove the heavy hand of obamacare from our land when I just voted to perserve it?

I think McCain would have been worse than Obama- because I'm convinced we would have us tied into another major war and more nationbuilding..LIKE OBAMA HASN'T ? .He was a Bush #3...



If I hadn't of been convinced it was so important that we needed to do everything to end the Bush reign I would have voted for Paul again in 08- I did before- and supported him in those joke primary caucus's Montana tried...

Can't stand Baldwin- as he is too tied to the white supremacist movement- wanting to build an all white state within a state in NW Montana.. The only reason he moved there from Florida last year.
.. OK, BS ON THAT ONE, BRING SOME FACTS TO SUPPORT THAT CLAIM

Besides Paul- so far I like what I see of Gary Johnson.... If Paul doesn't get the Repub nomination- I would love to see a Paul/Johnson Libertarian ticket..

 

[Larrry]

Guess he can't get enough of the high unemployment, high gas prices, trillions of new debt and all that secrecy of the WH etc.

 

[Lonecowboy]

In order to make the difference you claim, they first have to be elected.

Walk softly and carry a big stick, If Ron Paul carried a big stick then I could support him. If the enemy doesn't think anyone will stand up they will pester you all day.

Remember RR and his inauguration day. He carried a big stick and see what Iran did. He didn't start a war like his detracters claimed he would.

Why do you think Ron Paul will "weaken" America just because he rightfully claims the president needs Congress's declaration to use the "big stick" unless we are in eminent danger. That is called following our Constitution.

 

[Anonymous]

Soap- there were more than two choices last time- Ron Paul was also on the ballot here in MT- in other states Chuck Baldwin was the "Constitutional Party" candidate. and where did anyone ever get the idea I wasn't going to vote?????? I will most definatly vote- it just may or may not be for one of the 2/1 party candidates. if they are both liberals where is the choice in that? You mentioned mccain- would he have taken us towards socialism/collectivism or towards personal Liberty? He would have taken us the same direction as obama, just a lesser speed. Yes that is better but it is NOT good- it is only good in that it is slower.
So ask yourself if ___________ is elected are they going to take us toward personal Liberty or more collectivism? The only one that stands out from the crowd that I can see so far is Ron Paul. Is he a perfect person. No. Is he a good man- I say yes from what I have seen. ( Now before Tam jumps in here with allegations of racism etc. He does not stand for that- he renounces those newsletters- claims he never believed that way.- claims not to believe that way now. Even if he did before I know my mind has changed in the last 22 years- so can anyones- even if he believed it before he can repent and renounce it now and all should be forgiven.) What we don't see is guys like romney say romney care was a mistake- obama care is unconstitutional etc. Lets say romney become one of the "two" choices- How can I vote for him and then complain about obamacare? How can I pray for God to remove the heavy hand of obamacare from our land when I just voted to perserve it?

I think McCain would have been worse than Obama- because I'm convinced we would have been tied into another major war and more nationbuilding...He was a Bush #3... If I hadn't of been convinced it was so important that we needed to do everything to end the Bush reign I would have voted for Paul again in 08- I did before- and supported him in those joke primary caucus's Montana tried...

Can't stand Baldwin- as he is too tied to the white supremacist movement- wanting to build an all white state within a state in NW Montana.. The only reason he moved there from Florida last year...

Besides Paul- so far I like what I see of Gary Johnson.... If Paul doesn't get the Repub nomination- I would love to see a Paul/Johnson Libertarian ticket..

so you are hoping for another 4 years of obama then?

Not really- but I see no shining knights in the Republican party that can or would do any better... Excepting possibly Huntsman- but he like Johnson are not annointed by the cults godfathers....

 

[Larrry]

In order to make the difference you claim, they first have to be elected.

Walk softly and carry a big stick, If Ron Paul carried a big stick then I could support him. If the enemy doesn't think anyone will stand up they will pester you all day.

Remember RR and his inauguration day. He carried a big stick and see what Iran did. He didn't start a war like his detracters claimed he would.

Why do you think Ron Paul will "weaken" America just because he rightfully claims the president needs Congress's declaration to use the "big stick" unless we are in eminent danger. That is called following our Constitution.

For one thing when he thinks Iran is not a threat he sends a signal of weakness. I do not believe any of the R candidates have the intention of starting a war without congress. They may say that "I" would do this or that but they know full well they need congress. The "I" is just stating their beliefs. Now if you look at obama he thinks "I: means him solely.

RP sends the image of capitulation to foreign counties that want us wiped of the face of the Earth

 

[Lonecowboy]

In order to make the difference you claim, they first have to be elected.

Walk softly and carry a big stick, If Ron Paul carried a big stick then I could support him. If the enemy doesn't think anyone will stand up they will pester you all day.

Remember RR and his inauguration day. He carried a big stick and see what Iran did. He didn't start a war like his detracters claimed he would.

Why do you think Ron Paul will "weaken" America just because he rightfully claims the president needs Congress's declaration to use the "big stick" unless we are in eminent danger. That is called following our Constitution.

For one thing when he thinks Iran is not a threat he sends a signal of weakness. I do not believe any of the R candidates have the intention of starting a war without congress. They may say that "I" would do this or that but they know full well they need congress. The "I" is just stating their beliefs. Now if you look at obama he thinks "I: means him solely.

RP sends the image of capitulation to foreign counties that want us wiped of the face of the Earth

I see a man I know that I can whip if I have to and I say "that man is not a threat to me"- is that a sign of weakness or strength?

 

[Larrry]

Why do you think Ron Paul will "weaken" America just because he rightfully claims the president needs Congress's declaration to use the "big stick" unless we are in eminent danger. That is called following our Constitution.

For one thing when he thinks Iran is not a threat he sends a signal of weakness. I do not believe any of the R candidates have the intention of starting a war without congress. They may say that "I" would do this or that but they know full well they need congress. The "I" is just stating their beliefs. Now if you look at obama he thinks "I: means him solely.

RP sends the image of capitulation to foreign counties that want us wiped of the face of the Earth

I see a man I know that I can whip if I have to and I say "that man is not a threat to me"- is that a sign of weakness or strength?

What does the other man think he can do. That hypothetical question really doesn't pertain, especially on the world stage

 

[Steve]

I see a man I know that I can whip if I have to and I say "that man is not a threat to me"- is that a sign of weakness or strength?

the real strength is when he doesn't confront you, but confronts your neighbor, family and friends.. and you stand up to him..