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Obama Admin & China Chickens

Mike

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The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently announced that four Chinese poultry processors have permission to begin shipping meat to the U.S.

The nightmare for U.S. consumers? The Chinese-processed chicken will be labeled as 'made in America!'

Even though the Chinese poultry processors are only allowed to ship cooked meat from U.S.-raised chickens, many in the United States are alarmed that our leaders would allow such a deal to go down in the first place. After all, China is notorious for its food safety problems.

Concerns among the public are warranted when you consider that the CDC estimates 325,000 Americans are hospitalized every year from food poisoning, with 5,000 resultant deaths. On top of that — according to United States Census data – food imports doubled in this country from 1997 to 2008. Over 60 percent of imported food comes from developing nations, such as China.

Of the massive amount of imported food coming to America, the FDA only has the resources to inspect less than 2 percent. This is a major problem because many nations have less food safety regulations than the United States.

But even for the imported chicken from China being inspected, Chinese processors won't be required by the USDA to follow point-of-origin labeling laws because the chicken will already be cooked. This is another huge concern for consumers, as there will be no proof where their chicken came from. It will even lead to other problems such as food counterfeiting — something that so far has largely been restricted to fish markets.

Not having proper labels also makes it impossible for American consumers to tell if the chicken they want to buy was processed in the U.S. or China, placing a huge burden on families who wish to stay away from foreign foods.

Then, to add fuel to the fire, the USDA does not even plan to require its own regulators to supervise the Chinese processors on the premises! This means there will be little to no control over how the cooked chicken is processed in China. It's a drastic threat to the health of US consumers and something that must be stopped. China is already notorious for food safety issues. How much longer are we going to continue to hand over control of various US industries to China?

Contact your congressional representative and urge them to stand against this latest agreement between the USDA and China. Send this to five of your friends and have them do the same!
 
Mike said:
The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently announced that four Chinese poultry processors have permission to begin shipping meat to the U.S.

The nightmare for U.S. consumers? The Chinese-processed chicken will be labeled as 'made in America!'

Even though the Chinese poultry processors are only allowed to ship cooked meat from U.S.-raised chickens, many in the United States are alarmed that our leaders would allow such a deal to go down in the first place. After all, China is notorious for its food safety problems.

Concerns among the public are warranted when you consider that the CDC estimates 325,000 Americans are hospitalized every year from food poisoning, with 5,000 resultant deaths. On top of that — according to United States Census data – food imports doubled in this country from 1997 to 2008. Over 60 percent of imported food comes from developing nations, such as China.

Of the massive amount of imported food coming to America, the FDA only has the resources to inspect less than 2 percent. This is a major problem because many nations have less food safety regulations than the United States.

But even for the imported chicken from China being inspected, Chinese processors won't be required by the USDA to follow point-of-origin labeling laws because the chicken will already be cooked. This is another huge concern for consumers, as there will be no proof where their chicken came from. It will even lead to other problems such as food counterfeiting — something that so far has largely been restricted to fish markets.

Not having proper labels also makes it impossible for American consumers to tell if the chicken they want to buy was processed in the U.S. or China, placing a huge burden on families who wish to stay away from foreign foods.

Then, to add fuel to the fire, the USDA does not even plan to require its own regulators to supervise the Chinese processors on the premises! This means there will be little to no control over how the cooked chicken is processed in China. It's a drastic threat to the health of US consumers and something that must be stopped. China is already notorious for food safety issues. How much longer are we going to continue to hand over control of various US industries to China?

Contact your congressional representative and urge them to stand against this latest agreement between the USDA and China. Send this to five of your friends and have them do the same!

Where is that flounder - just when you thought it was safe - there is a need.

Where are you flounder?

Wait a minute - what about that old sheriff guy - isn't he a COOL guy? He certainly is an obama guy.

Wait a minute it DID originate in the US of A - but ..... it left and snuck back in after someone with dirty hands worked it over and then likely cooked it.

Time to get the sheriff on the case.

Or perhaps kola with all her friends - she must know someone in the big house - no, not THAT big house, the WHITE house just down the road from where she lives.

She MUST have the answer.

bc
 
Federal health officials are warning pet owners to be cautious about feeding their dogs jerky treats as they continue to investigate a treat-related illnesses that has left nearly 600 dogs dead and sickened more than 3,000 others.

The Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday issued an alert to consumers about the illnesses and deaths tied to jerky treats from China. Officials say the exact cause of the illnesses remains unknown.

"This is one of the most elusive and mysterious outbreaks we've encountered," Bernadette Dunham, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine, said in a statement. "Our beloved four-legged companions deserve our best effort, and we are giving it."

The agency has received reports from pet owners and veterinarians about jerky pet treat-related illnesses affecting 3,600 dogs and 10 cats in the U.S. since 2007. Approximately 580 of those pets have died, according to a news release.

The FDA noted a decrease in reports of illnesses earlier this year after a number of pet jerky treats were pulled from the market. Officials say the number of reports may have declined because fewer jerky treats were available to consumers.

Symptoms observed within hours of eating the treats include decreased appetite, vomiting, diarrhea, decreased activity, increased water consumption and increased urination, the agency said. Severe cases have involved kidney failure and gastrointestinal bleeding, the FDA said.
 
Symptoms observed within hours of eating the treats include decreased appetite, vomiting, diarrhea, decreased activity, increased water consumption and increased urination, the agency said. Severe cases have involved kidney failure and gastrointestinal bleeding, the FDA said.
Many of us experienced some or all of those symptoms after the last election.

Will these chicken parts be unknowingly served to people via restaurants, and pawned off on children by the state controlled school lunch program? I don't see this as ending well, and unwitting consumers won't have a clue as to what they're eating. At least initially.
 
Another good reason we need a strong M-COOL for all food products...
My understanding is that this is American chicken- born, raised, and slaughtered in the US- then sent to China for processing...

A true COOL should show the consumer all information to make an informed purchasing decision -- showing where born, raised, and slaughtered/processed if more than one country/the USA is involved...
 
Oldtimer said:
Another good reason we need a strong M-COOL for all food products...
My understanding is that this is American chicken- born, raised, and slaughtered in the US- then sent to China for processing...

A true COOL should show the consumer all information to make an informed purchasing decision -- showing where born, raised, and slaughtered/processed if more than one country/the USA is involved...

Gee your making a strong case for Individual animal ID. :?
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Another good reason we need a strong M-COOL for all food products...
My understanding is that this is American chicken- born, raised, and slaughtered in the US- then sent to China for processing...

A true COOL should show the consumer all information to make an informed purchasing decision -- showing where born, raised, and slaughtered/processed if more than one country/the USA is involved...

Gee your making a strong case for Individual animal ID. :?
There's no way around it.
 
How is it possible to hatch, raise, slaughter and then ship a chicken to China for "processing", to then have it shipped back to America for sale, all done at a better cost than "processing" it in America?
 
Whitewing said:
How is it possible to hatch, raise, slaughter and then ship a chicken to China for "processing", to then have it shipped back to America for sale, all done at a better cost than "processing" it in America?

Teleportation?
 
Mike said:
Whitewing said:
How is it possible to hatch, raise, slaughter and then ship a chicken to China for "processing", to then have it shipped back to America for sale, all done at a better cost than "processing" it in America?

Teleportation?

Indeed. That's about the only logical way to do it.
 
Whitewing said:
Mike said:
Whitewing said:
How is it possible to hatch, raise, slaughter and then ship a chicken to China for "processing", to then have it shipped back to America for sale, all done at a better cost than "processing" it in America?

Teleportation?

Indeed. That's about the only logical way to do it.

The chickens fly over and come back in a cellophane suit. :wink:
 
Mike said:
The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently announced that four Chinese poultry processors have permission to begin shipping meat to the U.S.

The nightmare for U.S. consumers? The Chinese-processed chicken will be labeled as 'made in America!'

Even though the Chinese poultry processors are only allowed to ship cooked meat from U.S.-raised chickens, many in the United States are alarmed that our leaders would allow such a deal to go down in the first place. After all, China is notorious for its food safety problems.

snip .......

Seems there are some in the USA that have a higher opinion of Chinese processed chicken than they do of American processed Canadian beef.

LOL

bc
 
Broke Cowboy said:
Mike said:
The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently announced that four Chinese poultry processors have permission to begin shipping meat to the U.S.

The nightmare for U.S. consumers? The Chinese-processed chicken will be labeled as 'made in America!'

Even though the Chinese poultry processors are only allowed to ship cooked meat from U.S.-raised chickens, many in the United States are alarmed that our leaders would allow such a deal to go down in the first place. After all, China is notorious for its food safety problems.

snip .......

Seems there are some in the USA that have a higher opinion of Chinese processed chicken than they do of American processed Canadian beef.

LOL

bc

Well now that's quite a statement but it's the truth! :lol:
 
Broke Cowboy said:
Mike said:
The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently announced that four Chinese poultry processors have permission to begin shipping meat to the U.S.

The nightmare for U.S. consumers? The Chinese-processed chicken will be labeled as 'made in America!'

Even though the Chinese poultry processors are only allowed to ship cooked meat from U.S.-raised chickens, many in the United States are alarmed that our leaders would allow such a deal to go down in the first place. After all, China is notorious for its food safety problems.

snip .......

Not really - that has been a loophole in the M-COOL Law for years-- processed foods don't fit under it...
Some of the "beef" soups sold in the US for years have been processed in South America...

That's the reason- unless there is a specific law- with no loopholes- these multinational conglomerate corporate folks will try to make every buck they can while doing everything in their power from telling the truth...

Canadians could make big bucks if they just realized the importance in truth in labeling and would get their government to agree to it....

Seems there are some in the USA that have a higher opinion of Chinese processed chicken than they do of American processed Canadian beef.

LOL

bc


Not really - that has been a loophole in the M-COOL Law for years-- processed foods don't fit under it... Many of the "beef" soups sold in the US for years have been processed in South America...

That's the reason- unless there is a specific law- with no loopholes- these multinational conglomerate corporate folks will try to make every buck they can while doing everything in their power from telling the truth... BUT-- anymore consumers are wising up and want to see truth in labeling...

Canadians could make big bucks if they just realized the importance in truth in labeling and would get their government to agree to it....
 
Oldtimer said:
Broke Cowboy said:
Mike said:
The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently announced that four Chinese poultry processors have permission to begin shipping meat to the U.S.

The nightmare for U.S. consumers? The Chinese-processed chicken will be labeled as 'made in America!'

Even though the Chinese poultry processors are only allowed to ship cooked meat from U.S.-raised chickens, many in the United States are alarmed that our leaders would allow such a deal to go down in the first place. After all, China is notorious for its food safety problems.

snip .......

Not really - that has been a loophole in the M-COOL Law for years-- processed foods don't fit under it...
Some of the "beef" soups sold in the US for years have been processed in South America...

That's the reason- unless there is a specific law- with no loopholes- these multinational conglomerate corporate folks will try to make every buck they can while doing everything in their power from telling the truth...

Canadians could make big bucks if they just realized the importance in truth in labeling and would get their government to agree to it....

Seems there are some in the USA that have a higher opinion of Chinese processed chicken than they do of American processed Canadian beef.

LOL

bc


Not really - that has been a loophole in the M-COOL Law for years-- processed foods don't fit under it... Many of the "beef" soups sold in the US for years have been processed in South America...

That's the reason- unless there is a specific law- with no loopholes- these multinational conglomerate corporate folks will try to make every buck they can while doing everything in their power from telling the truth... BUT-- anymore consumers are wising up and want to see truth in labeling...

Canadians could make big bucks if they just realized the importance in truth in labeling and would get their government to agree to it....

Thank Bill Clinton for signing the PERMANENT NORMAL TRADE RELATION accord at the very end of his term which allowed WTO accession to China. :roll:

In China's case, Congress agreed to permanent normal trade relations (PNTR) status in P.L. 106-286, President Clinton signed into law on October 10, 2000. PNTR paved the way for China's accession to the WTO in December 2000; it provides U.S. exporters of agricultural products the opportunity to benefit from China's WTO agreements to reduce trade barriers and open its agricultural markets.

Without "Permanent Normal Trade Relations" with China allowing them World Trade Organization status with the U.S., the "Processed Food" conundrum would not be in effect and a Trade Barrier could be used to block certain items.

WE TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Broke Cowboy said:
Notice how my comment was changed folks?

bc

Sure did. The blame was shifted 180 degrees off course.

But then your comment placed no blame.

Do ya think OT will ever figure how much he don't know?
 
Broke Cowboy said:
Mike said:
The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently announced that four Chinese poultry processors have permission to begin shipping meat to the U.S.

The nightmare for U.S. consumers? The Chinese-processed chicken will be labeled as 'made in America!'

Even though the Chinese poultry processors are only allowed to ship cooked meat from U.S.-raised chickens, many in the United States are alarmed that our leaders would allow such a deal to go down in the first place. After all, China is notorious for its food safety problems.

Concerns among the public are warranted when you consider that the CDC estimates 325,000 Americans are hospitalized every year from food poisoning, with 5,000 resultant deaths. On top of that — according to United States Census data – food imports doubled in this country from 1997 to 2008. Over 60 percent of imported food comes from developing nations, such as China.

Of the massive amount of imported food coming to America, the FDA only has the resources to inspect less than 2 percent. This is a major problem because many nations have less food safety regulations than the United States.

But even for the imported chicken from China being inspected, Chinese processors won't be required by the USDA to follow point-of-origin labeling laws because the chicken will already be cooked. This is another huge concern for consumers, as there will be no proof where their chicken came from. It will even lead to other problems such as food counterfeiting — something that so far has largely been restricted to fish markets.

Not having proper labels also makes it impossible for American consumers to tell if the chicken they want to buy was processed in the U.S. or China, placing a huge burden on families who wish to stay away from foreign foods.

Then, to add fuel to the fire, the USDA does not even plan to require its own regulators to supervise the Chinese processors on the premises! This means there will be little to no control over how the cooked chicken is processed in China. It's a drastic threat to the health of US consumers and something that must be stopped. China is already notorious for food safety issues. How much longer are we going to continue to hand over control of various US industries to China?

Contact your congressional representative and urge them to stand against this latest agreement between the USDA and China. Send this to five of your friends and have them do the same!

Where is that flounder - just when you thought it was safe - there is a need.

Where are you flounder?

Wait a minute - what about that old sheriff guy - isn't he a COOL guy? He certainly is an obama guy.

Wait a minute it DID originate in the US of A - but ..... it left and snuck back in after someone with dirty hands worked it over and then likely cooked it.

Time to get the sheriff on the case.

Or perhaps kola with all her friends - she must know someone in the big house - no, not THAT big house, the WHITE house just down the road from where she lives.

She MUST have the answer.

bc


Ensuring Safety of Imported Processed Chicken from China
Posted by Al Almanza, USDA Food Safety and Inspection Service Administrator, on September 24, 2013 at 3:48 PM
On August 30th, FSIS announced the results of our verification audit of China's poultry processing inspection system, which reaffirmed the equivalence of China's poultry processing system. This determination was made after a long and careful review by our expert auditors to ensure that China's system for processed poultry meets the United States' safety standards. FSIS' core mission is food safety and our staff works hard and diligently to ensure that the U.S. food supply remains safe. Since the announcement of the audit results, our agency has received several inquires regarding this determination so I want to take the time to explain this process and clarify any misperceptions.

Let me start with explaining what this "equivalence" determination means. If a country wants to export FSIS regulated product to the United States, as a regulatory agency, we are required to review this request and conduct an audit to determine if their food safety system meets U.S. standards. The process for determining China's equivalence began in 2004, when China submitted a formal request to FSIS that the agency evaluate China's poultry system to assess it equivalence and thus its eligibility to export poultry products to the United States. After an extensive audit, FSIS granted China "equivalence" for processed poultry in 2006 which meant that China was eligible to export cooked chicken to the U.S. as long as the raw poultry was from an approved source. FSIS began rulemaking and published a final rule in the Federal Register, adding China to the list of countries eligible to export cooked poultry to the United States. However, the 2008 appropriations bill prohibited FSIS from using funding to implement the final rule that allowed China to export processed chicken. In 2010, the appropriations ban was lifted and China submitted a new request for an equivalence audit.

In March 2013, FSIS' conducted another equivalence audit for cooked poultry since so much time had lapsed since the previous audit in 2004. This audit included:

A document review process, where FSIS staff examined China's laws and regulations related to food safety to ensure they meet U.S. standards; and
On-site audits, where a technical team visited China to view various aspects of the inspection system, including plant facilities and equipment, laboratories, training programs, and in-plant inspection operations.
FSIS' audit team reviewed six components of China's food safety system: (1) government oversight; (2) statutory authority and food safety regulations; (3) sanitation controls; (4) HACCP systems; (5) chemical residue control programs, and; (6) microbiological testing programs. After a thorough assessment of these components and of the results of our on-site audits, FSIS determined that China had demonstrated that its system for processed poultry meets the United States standard for equivalency, provided that the raw poultry is from FSIS-approved sources (currently the U.S., Canada and Chile).

While China has been granted initial equivalence for processed poultry, there are standards that the country must uphold to maintain equivalence. For example, FSIS will conduct annual reviews of the equivalency status and on-site audits to ensure that Chinese establishments are in compliance. Further, our inspectors conduct port-of-entry re-inspections for all imported products. These inspection activities focus more intently on products from countries that are just beginning to export to the United States and thus will provide direct evidence of how China's inspection system is performing. Further, before China can begin sending cooked chicken to the U.S., they must certify plants that will process the chicken for export, and provide this list to FSIS. To date, this has not been done and China has not provided a timeframe for when they intend to begin exporting to the U.S.I visited China two weeks ago as part of our agency's pledge to maintain an open and ongoing dialogue with the country. We believe that maintaining this dialogue is essential to China's understanding of its responsibilities when exporting to the U.S. FSIS doesn't compromise when it comes to food safety, and this determination to grant China equivalency for processed poultry is no exception. FSIS' comprehensive inspection program based on equivalency, continuous monitoring and inspection at import, and system audits, are critical to protecting the health and well-being of American families. The U.S. food supply is among the safest in the world, and our staff is dedicated to maintaining this status.

- See more at: http://blogs.usda.gov/2013/09/24/ensuring-safety-of-imported-processed-chicken-from-china/#more-47817


http://blogs.usda.gov/2013/09/24/ensuring-safety-of-imported-processed-chicken-from-china/#more-47817


>>> The U.S. food supply is among the safest in the world


HA, HA, HA !!!



Saturday, November 2, 2013

APHIS Finalizes Bovine Import Regulations in Line with International Animal Health Standards while enhancing the spread of BSE TSE prion mad cow type disease around the Globe

http://madcowusda.blogspot.com/2013/11/aphis-finalizes-bovine-import.html



disgusted again in Bacliff, Texas


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poor old dr terry is disgusted,,,,just as we are with all his posts and that makes no difference he just keeps posting nonesense
 

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