Only one Japanese food company plans to use U.S. beef

[HAY MAKER]

Only one Japanese food company plans to use U.S. beef after ban: report
Only one Japanese food company said in a survey that it plans to use U.S. beef following the lifting of a ban on American imports, a news report said Saturday.

Sales of American beef resumed this week for the first time since January, after Tokyo announced on July 27 that it was easing its ban on imports of U.S. beef over mad cow disease fears.

While the decision renewed U.S. access to what was once the most lucrative export market for American ranchers, Kyodo News agency cited a survey that suggests winning back market share will be difficult.

In the survey, conducted last month by the Consumers Union of Japan and Food Safety Citizens' Watch, questionnaires were sent to major food industry companies such as supermarkets and fast food restaurants.

Of the 21 companies that replied, only beef bowl chain Yoshinoya D&C Co. said it would use U.S. beef, the report said.

Seven companies -- including McDonald's Holdings Co. and Zensho Co., which also sells beef bowl dishes -- said they had no plans to use U.S. beef, while seven others indicated they won't use U.S. beef "for the time being," Kyodo News reported.

Other respondents said they would decide after viewing "consumer trends and the quality and price of the beef."

Japan initially banned American beef imports in December 2003 after the first case of mad cow disease in the United States. The ban was eased in December 2005, but reimposed in January after prohibited spinal bones were found in a veal shipment.

Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is a degenerative nerve disease in cattle. Eating contaminated meat products has been linked to the rare but fatal human variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. (AP)



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August 12, 2006

 

[Bill]

Didn't COSTCO sell out of North American beef in one day? I guess COSTCO must have forgotten to return their survey or were they one of the 7 who didn't plan on using it "for the time being"?

 

[Sandhusker]

Didn't COSTCO sell out of North American beef in one day? I guess COSTCO must have forgotten to return their survey or were they one of the 7 who didn't plan on using it "for the time being"?

Read the article, the companies they are talking about are not stores.

"North American" beef?

 

[Bill]

Didn't COSTCO sell out of North American beef in one day? I guess COSTCO must have forgotten to return their survey or were they one of the 7 who didn't plan on using it "for the time being"?

Read the article, the companies they are talking about are not stores.

"North American" beef?

And you have a pretty good handle on the Japanese market and how business is conducted there?

:lol: :lol: :lol: Obviously not.

 

[Sandhusker]

Didn't COSTCO sell out of North American beef in one day? I guess COSTCO must have forgotten to return their survey or were they one of the 7 who didn't plan on using it "for the time being"?

Read the article, the companies they are talking about are not stores.

"North American" beef?

And you have a pretty good handle on the Japanese market and how business is conducted there?

:lol: :lol: :lol: Obviously not.

At least I comprehended what I read.........

 

[Anonymous]

Read the article, the companies they are talking about are not stores.

"North American" beef?

And you have a pretty good handle on the Japanese market and how business is conducted there?

:lol: :lol: :lol: Obviously not.

At least I comprehended what I read.........

Its comical how only Canadians and Packers think of it as "North American" beef- or "North American" herd.... :lol: And even Canadians didn't until their fannies were in the fire with the closed border, and they were trying any tactic they could- before that it was "Canadian herd" and "US herd"-- and according to Canadians all US cattle were diseased.... :lol: :lol:

Even NCBA members revolted against their leaderships following of the Packer lead and use of the terms....I remember quite well Ms. Wileys very emotional "we weren't listening to our membership" speach when they were trying to keep more of their membership from abdicating... :lol:

 

[Tommy]

Oldtimer....I remember quite well Ms. Wileys very emotional "we weren't listening to our membership" speach when they were trying to keep more of their membership from abdicating...

Sorry to correct you Oldtimer, but that was Jan Lyons NCBA president 2004 who said that. Wythe Willey was before her I believe.

 

[frenchie]

and according to Canadians all US cattle were diseased.... :lol: :lol:

The Canuks are not your enemies Ot..It was the C.F.I.A ( a goverment agency )that was concerned about your cattle . Pascal& his feedlot buddies were trying to get that rule removed way before b.s.e was found in this country.

Truth is the C.F.I.A only applied the same rules as some of your states.
It is now easier to move cattle north than between some states.

 

[Anonymous]

Oldtimer....I remember quite well Ms. Wileys very emotional "we weren't listening to our membership" speach when they were trying to keep more of their membership from abdicating...

Sorry to correct you Oldtimer, but that was Jan Lyons NCBA president 2004 who said that. Wythe Willey was before her I believe.

You are right - I was goin back too many years in my memory of the changing of the guard...But I can picture her clearly on national TV when she made one of the most honest statements to come out of an NCBA leader....

 

[Anonymous]

and according to Canadians all US cattle were diseased.... :lol: :lol:

The Canuks are not your enemies Ot..It was the C.F.I.A ( a goverment agency )that was concerned about your cattle .

Truth is the C.F.I.A only applied the same rules as some of your states.

And Canuck producers have no say in what CFIA does :???:

My cows and calves were shipped all over the US for the past 50 years untested-- but even tho they ran next to Canadian cattle, they were not allowed to go north without going thru the restrictions of quarantine and testing.....That definitely isn't the same rule as was in the states....

I had never heard the words "North American herd" until post BSE discovery....Before that it was Canadian cattle and US cattle....

 

[frenchie]

and according to Canadians all US cattle were diseased.... :lol: :lol:

The Canuks are not your enemies Ot..It was the C.F.I.A ( a goverment agency )that was concerned about your cattle .

Truth is the C.F.I.A only applied the same rules as some of your states.

And Canuck producers have no say in what CFIA does :???: ....

That comes as a shock to you :roll:

My cows and calves were shipped all over the US for the past 50 years untested-- but even tho they ran next to Canadian cattle, they were not allowed to go north without going thru the restrictions of quarantine and testing.....That definitely isn't the same rule as was in the states....

You think not ? We talked about this before and even you admitted that it was so in some states.

I had never heard the words "North American herd" until post BSE discovery....Before that it was Canadian cattle and US cattle....

Perhaps not .. but that does not mean that cattle did not travel both ways for a period well over a 100 yrs.

 

[Tam]

and according to Canadians all US cattle were diseased.... :lol: :lol:

The Canuks are not your enemies Ot..It was the C.F.I.A ( a goverment agency )that was concerned about your cattle .

Truth is the C.F.I.A only applied the same rules as some of your states.

And Canuck producers have no say in what CFIA does :???:

My cows and calves were shipped all over the US for the past 50 years untested-- but even tho they ran next to Canadian cattle, they were not allowed to go north without going thru the restrictions of quarantine and testing.....That definitely isn't the same rule as was in the states....

I had never heard the words "North American herd" until post BSE discovery....Before that it was Canadian cattle and US cattle....

Oldtimer why did R-CALF take the USDA to court? was it not because the US Producers had no say in what the USDA did?????? What makes you think we have much say in what the CFIA does? We lobby but that doesn't mean they always listen. :roll:

Ill post this again just in case you miss it on the other thread Oldtimer.

ANAPLASMOSIS TEST EXEMPTIONS: for the STATE of Wisconsin
Animals from Canada, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont and West Virginia.

ANAPLASMOSIS TEST REQUIREMENTS:

All other animals 6 months of age or older must be test negative by the complement fixation (CF) test within 30 days prior to shipment.

No Anaplasmosis suspect or reactor animals can enter Wisconsin.

Contact the Division of Animal Health for test interpretation. Negative animals from herds with one or more reactor animals may not enter Wisconsin.

Notice something Oldtimer, MONTANA IS NOT ON THE EXEMPTION LIST WITH CANADA for Wisconsin so I guess your cattle have not made it to all the US states untested.

Alaska *** CATTLE ***
Cattle, bison and llamas imported into the state must be accompanied by a permit and health certificate which, for an animal over 6 months old, must include certification that within 30 days before importation the animals tested negative to: a Brucellosis test unless the animal is under 18 months of age and has been officially vaccinated and permanently identified as an official brucellosis vaccinate;
an anaplasmosis test; and
a bluetongue test: such tests conducted at laboratories approved by the USDA.

Alaska is on the list that can ship to Wisconsin but they require testing from other States.

Vermont

SECTION II GENTERL INFORMATION
A. General Requirements
1. No person shall import, or cause to be imported, into the state any domestic animal unless the domestic animal is accompanied by a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection and an import permit, or a waybill as these regulations require.
2. No person shall import, or cause to be imported, into the state any domestic animal which is under any state or federal quarantine due to the presence of suspected presence of a contagious disease.
3. No person shall import or cause to be imported into the state any domestic animal that is affected with, or has been exposed to, any contagious disease including, but not limited to, tuberculosis, brucellosis, anaplasmosis, psoroptic scabies, hog cholera, pseudorabies, rabies, equine infectious anemia, pullorum-typhoid, chlamydiosis (psittacosis) or scrapie.
4. In order to prevent the spread of contagious diseases, any domestic animals brought into the state without having been first tested and inspected as required by these rules may be returned to the state of origin within 48 hours of a determination by the commissioner that the domestic animals have been illegally imported. While in the state, the illegally imported domestic animal shall be strictly quarantined. In the event that the domestic animals cannot be returned to the state of origin, the animals shall be slaughtered or euthanized within 72 hours of a determination by the commissioner that the animal have been illegally imported. The owner of the domestic animals shall bear the full expense of their destruction or removal from the state, and shall not be entitled to any compensation from the state.

Vermont is on Wisconsins exempt list and they require testing.

Hawaii is on Wisconsins exempt list and I read their rules and guess what Oldtimer they also require testing. :nod:


Should I keep going I think I could list at least a few more that require testing as there is only 22 States that Wisconsin will except untested from. How many other States on Wisconsin's exempt list will not take beef untested from those other 28 States that include MONTANA??? BUT CANADA IS EXPECTED TO OR IT IS CONSIDERED A TRADE IRRITATION THAT IMPEED TRADE BETWEEN TWO INDEPENDANT COUNTRIES! :roll:

 

[HAY MAKER]

Oldtimer....I remember quite well Ms. Wileys very emotional "we weren't listening to our membership" speach when they were trying to keep more of their membership from abdicating...

Sorry to correct you Oldtimer, but that was Jan Lyons NCBA president 2004 who said that. Wythe Willey was before her I believe.

Well I can certainly see how Old Timer got mixed up,the ncba must change presidents every other day,every time I read some of their propaganda they have a new president that is trying to shore up falling membership,it's just a matter of time till the ncba changes and starts representing the cattle man or ceases to exist,not long ago they could play both ends against the middle,all that has changed information is much more easily accessed ,that makes it very easy to see who they really partner with.................good luck

 

[Anonymous]

The Canuks are not your enemies Ot..It was the C.F.I.A ( a goverment agency )that was concerned about your cattle .

Truth is the C.F.I.A only applied the same rules as some of your states.

And Canuck producers have no say in what CFIA does :???:

My cows and calves were shipped all over the US for the past 50 years untested-- but even tho they ran next to Canadian cattle, they were not allowed to go north without going thru the restrictions of quarantine and testing.....That definitely isn't the same rule as was in the states....

I had never heard the words "North American herd" until post BSE discovery....Before that it was Canadian cattle and US cattle....

Oldtimer why did R-CALF take the USDA to court? was it not because the US Producers had no say in what the USDA did?????? What makes you think we have much say in what the CFIA does? We lobby but that doesn't mean they always listen. :roll:

TAM- I'm Glad to see that after several years of denial , we have finally got you to accept the truth, that we've been trying to convince you of ...

R-CALF TOOK THE USDA TO COURT (NOT CANADA)...

Thats a big move for you Tam- I'm sure your counselor will be pleased-- maybe it will help you with cutting down on the Boogeyman Bill dreams or the Leo fantasy's... :wink: :lol:

Ill post this again just in case you miss it on the other thread Oldtimer.

ANAPLASMOSIS TEST EXEMPTIONS: for the STATE of Wisconsin
Animals from Canada, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont and West Virginia.

ANAPLASMOSIS TEST REQUIREMENTS:

All other animals 6 months of age or older must be test negative by the complement fixation (CF) test within 30 days prior to shipment.

No Anaplasmosis suspect or reactor animals can enter Wisconsin.

Contact the Division of Animal Health for test interpretation. Negative animals from herds with one or more reactor animals may not enter Wisconsin.

Notice something Oldtimer, MONTANA IS NOT ON THE EXEMPTION LIST WITH CANADA for Wisconsin so I guess your cattle have not made it to all the US states untested.

Alaska *** CATTLE ***
Cattle, bison and llamas imported into the state must be accompanied by a permit and health certificate which, for an animal over 6 months old, must include certification that within 30 days before importation the animals tested negative to: a Brucellosis test unless the animal is under 18 months of age and has been officially vaccinated and permanently identified as an official brucellosis vaccinate;
an anaplasmosis test; and
a bluetongue test: such tests conducted at laboratories approved by the USDA.

Alaska is on the list that can ship to Wisconsin but they require testing from other States.

Vermont

SECTION II GENTERL INFORMATION
A. General Requirements
1. No person shall import, or cause to be imported, into the state any domestic animal unless the domestic animal is accompanied by a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection and an import permit, or a waybill as these regulations require.
2. No person shall import, or cause to be imported, into the state any domestic animal which is under any state or federal quarantine due to the presence of suspected presence of a contagious disease.
3. No person shall import or cause to be imported into the state any domestic animal that is affected with, or has been exposed to, any contagious disease including, but not limited to, tuberculosis, brucellosis, anaplasmosis, psoroptic scabies, hog cholera, pseudorabies, rabies, equine infectious anemia, pullorum-typhoid, chlamydiosis (psittacosis) or scrapie.
4. In order to prevent the spread of contagious diseases, any domestic animals brought into the state without having been first tested and inspected as required by these rules may be returned to the state of origin within 48 hours of a determination by the commissioner that the domestic animals have been illegally imported. While in the state, the illegally imported domestic animal shall be strictly quarantined. In the event that the domestic animals cannot be returned to the state of origin, the animals shall be slaughtered or euthanized within 72 hours of a determination by the commissioner that the animal have been illegally imported. The owner of the domestic animals shall bear the full expense of their destruction or removal from the state, and shall not be entitled to any compensation from the state.

Vermont is on Wisconsins exempt list and they require testing.

Hawaii is on Wisconsins exempt list and I read their rules and guess what Oldtimer they also require testing. :nod:


Should I keep going I think I could list at least a few more that require testing as there is only 22 States that Wisconsin will except untested from. How many other States on Wisconsin's exempt list will not take beef untested from those other 28 States that include MONTANA??? BUT CANADA IS EXPECTED TO OR IT IS CONSIDERED A TRADE IRRITATION THAT IMPEED TRADE BETWEEN TWO INDEPENDANT COUNTRIES! :roll:

I don't know where you get all these cut and pastes-- but in the real world of where cattle change hands- there were very few restrictions shipping most unless you went to Canada...There has never been much over a dozen states with any real restriction for the last many years...

Which is what made this so sad- When Canada said ALL US cattle were diseased and unfit to go across the imaginary line without testing and quarantine- even when they ran a fenceline apart...

I will agree with you Tam and Frenchie that I did hear some Canadian cattlemen that thought it was the stupidist thing in the world- but I never saw any organized Canadians cattle group actually put up any bonified pressure against it until Canada was already up the BSE proverbial creek with both paddles floating away....

So if I get the Canadian drift right- when Canada quarantines animals even if they have little or no disease history ( and the US scientists said posed no risk)- that is GOOD.....
BUT
When the US quarantines animals- even when the risk factor of these cattle is 40 or 50 times those in the states ( and the Canadian scientists are making statements that more diseased animals from all over the western provinces will be found) and the disease can not only be herd destroying, but industry destroying, and creates a human health hazard- that is BAD :???:

Yep now its clear as mud to me :wink: :lol:

 

[Murgen]

I don't know where you get all these cut and pastes-- but in the real world of where cattle change hands- there were very few restrictions shipping most unless you went to Canada...There has never been much over a dozen states with any real restriction for the last many years...

OT, are you saying that once again, Canadians followed the regulations, but in the US the regulations were just for show? Shame!

there's a trend starting to develop!

 

[Anonymous]

I don't know where you get all these cut and pastes-- but in the real world of where cattle change hands- there were very few restrictions shipping most unless you went to Canada...There has never been much over a dozen states with any real restriction for the last many years...

OT, are you saying that once again, Canadians followed the regulations, but in the US the regulations were just for show? Shame!

there's a trend starting to develop!

Nope thats not what I said Murgen-- And we aren't having the Mad Cow of the Month showing up either :wink:

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

OT have you ever heard of the Northwest Project?
That was where the CCA and it's affiliates had a pilot project to import Montana cattle and some other bordering states. It was to prove to CFIA that those cattle were safe. Funny R-CALF never mentions about all the calves that came north when it was economicaly feasible to do so. Now you can say you have heard about cattle organizations in Canada working to get the Anaplas regulations changed.

 

[Anonymous]

OT have you ever heard of the Northwest Project?
That was where the CCA and it's affiliates had a pilot project to import Montana cattle and some other bordering states. It was to prove to CFIA that those cattle were safe. Funny R-CALF never mentions about all the calves that came north when it was economicaly feasible to do so. Now you can say you have heard about cattle organizations in Canada working to get the Anaplas regulations changed.

Must be a pretty weak organization ( or a weak effort ) - 12+ years and they still haven't got them all dropped... :wink:

 

[Northern Rancher]

How easy was it for you to ship breeding age heifers from Montana to Wyoming OT. Alot of vets paid for practices bangs vaccinating and tattooing. State to state health rules are every bit as cumbersome as it ever was to bring cattle north-I've sold cattle into Montana and brought cattle back so got my grade one in how easy things are-the worst trouble we ever had was getting cattle from Montana to Wyoming.

 

[Anonymous]

How easy was it for you to ship breeding age heifers from Montana to Wyoming OT. Alot of vets paid for practices bangs vaccinating and tattooing. State to state health rules are every bit as cumbersome as it ever was to bring cattle north-I've sold cattle into Montana and brought cattle back so got my grade one in how easy things are-the worst trouble we ever had was getting cattle from Montana to Wyoming.

I've never done more than had a vet look at the herd/cattle and write a health- and they went all over in the cattle or the slaughter areas of the US...I couldn't say about some of the states- but in the cattle areas there was never a problem...

As far as breeding age heifers going to Wyoming- I think all they (like many states) require for entry is bangs vaccination, which has become a common practice with me and most producers in this area- so was no extra burden...

I think if I remember right- possibly back in the late 50's or early 60's- we had a bangs restriction out of this area for a few years- and had to have everything not going directly to slaughter tested to send it out of state- but my oldtimers disease doesn't allow me to remember all the details about that....