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Opportunity to push organic beef being seized

mrj

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Horrors, reader (the second)! That is a PR piece you proudly post!

Things noticed quickly are that he is promoting fears of BSE and using those fears to sell his own product.

Statement "Since cattle become infected with BSE by eating feed contaminated with the remains of infected cattle...." Show me where that is a proven fact. It may be a strong theory, but not verified, proveable fact, is it?

"eating Meat products contaminated with BSE has been linked to....." Again, theory, tenuous links are NOT verifiable, proven FACT.

I would certainly challenge his assertion/PR hype that "most small scale producers know" any more about their animals than large ones, or are any more concerned about quality controls. The larger ones have more to lose, are more closely inspected, regulated, and monitored and are even more likely to have or hire the necessary help, expertise and materials and equipment to best care for and maintain their animals. A simple fact of life.

Many consumers CAN and DO know the origin of the meat they purchase in grocery stores. There are many source and/or process verified beef products on the market. ANd why would the large corporate meat companies put their name and even a guarantee on the packages of their top of the line products if the were not proud of them?

Why doesn't this man tell us what HE does with HIS older animals? Does he just 'retire' them to a pasture to die peaceably when they are no longer producing calves? Cows don't usually reproduce until they are 24 months old. What does he do with them after they are older than 24 months, then? Absolute hype and PR........of the sort you claim to detest when NCBA or a "big" business does it. I'm surprised at you. Saddened, too. Why aren't you demanding that he clean up his act????

MRJ
 
We've got cattlemen against cattlemen here. The grass fed sector against the mainstream sector. The organic against the non-organic.

Soon as we get them all split up, no one will stand together and the movements that "Need Be" will be divided into groups small enough no one will pay attention to any of them.

Same-O Same-O
 
It still sells beef that may have not been sold another way and that takes supply off the market and helps the markets. I can't understand why some ranchers are so gung ho about selling quiznos steak sandwiches and not be happy that some of the people who might not otherwise eat beef would go for the grass fed, organic, or other kind of beef. It is all still beef. It might even be a better spend of checkoff dollars than quiznos advertising when it comes to increasing demand.
 
There is the same undeniable truth about 100% forage raised beef and BSE as there is with abstinence and pregnancy. I benefit from bad news directed at the grainfed industry(e.coli recall or BSE) without doing a thing. It is the beef industries lack of being proactive in addressing consumer concerns and putting out their own PR to rebuild consumer confidence that is hurting beef sales. Blaming grassfed and organic producers for these problems is ridiculous...run the numbers...we are a very small portion of the total industry. MRJ's response is typical of industry leaders. Conventional producers need to look in the mirror when they start to assign blame for lack of beef sales.
 
RobertMac said:
There is the same undeniable truth about 100% forage raised beef and BSE as there is with abstinence and pregnancy. I benefit from bad news directed at the grainfed industry(e.coli recall or BSE) without doing a thing. It is the beef industries lack of being proactive in addressing consumer concerns and putting out their own PR to rebuild consumer confidence that is hurting beef sales. Blaming grassfed and organic producers for these problems is ridiculous...run the numbers...we are a very small portion of the total industry. MRJ's response is typical of industry leaders. Conventional producers need to look in the mirror when they start to assign blame for lack of beef sales.

Amen.
 
So......you all think it is fine for someone to say things that are not verified with science backed facts implying that conventionally produced beef is harmful......simply in order to make his own product appear superior?

Why is there no problem over misleading the consumer?

BTW, many people in the Organic movement did that from the beginning of their business. Many and various other products have people selling them by instilling fear of one thing or another in order to sell their "safe" product. Gold comes quickly to mind.

"Conventional beef producers" are the ones who have been in the lead in using science based information to promote and sell beef, btw, and the demand for beef has been rising because of that effort. No doubt those who are partnering in the efforts to divide the industry will deny it, which does nothing to help anything.

MRJ
 
MRJ said:
So......you all think it is fine for someone to say things that are not verified with science backed facts implying that conventionally produced beef is harmful......simply in order to make his own product appear superior?

Why is there no problem over misleading the consumer?

BTW, many people in the Organic movement did that from the beginning of their business. Many and various other products have people selling them by instilling fear of one thing or another in order to sell their "safe" product. Gold comes quickly to mind.

"Conventional beef producers" are the ones who have been in the lead in using science based information to promote and sell beef, btw, and the demand for beef has been rising because of that effort. No doubt those who are partnering in the efforts to divide the industry will deny it, which does nothing to help anything.

MRJ

It is funny that the USDA was created to help keep the food and beef supply safe for the consumers. It is the basis for all of the USDA inspections (same thing for city health inspections). I think it is funny that you besmirch a method of delivering nutricious beef that bypasses some of the failures of that system in order to promote beef.

The Japanese don't buy it and it has lost a customer. You need to stick to your secretary job, MRJ.
 

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