Organophosphates: A Timebomb Ticking

[Murgen]

Link to whole Article:

http://www.converium.com/2005.asp

In the UK, farmers are up in arms about the affects of the liberal use of OPs in animal husbandry. Last year, a pending class action suit brought by sheep farmers who believed they had been poisoned by OPs in sheep dip was withdrawn because of the difficulty in proving the link between the chemical and the illnesses. Anecdotally, if not yet legally, the arguments are increasingly compelling. Out of 179 farmers, 130 were said to have been exposed to organophosphates, mostly through dipping sheep, and 21 complained of the symptoms of organophosphate poisoning. Taking account of the bias inherent in the survey methodology, the report suggested 10% of farmers exposed to organophosphate pesticides suffer from poisoning. No doubt this can also translate to farm employees.

I wonder if the OP's maybe affected the cattle and sheep too? If you check the the timeline of BSE cases in the UK, it corresponds with the mandatory use of OP's and then the banning of OP's.

 

[Brad S]

I used to use a CP44 (or something like that) also called Duresban that was an OP, what are current OPs?

 

[Murgen]

Here's a list I found from BC.

OPs used in British
Columbia include:
acephate diazinon mevinphos
azinphos-methyl dichlorvos naled
chlorfenvinphos dimethoate parathion
chlorpyrifos disulfoton phosdrin
demeton malathion
Most OPs — including malathion, parathion, and
demeton — have strong odors that smell like garlic.

Funny thing is, we use them on pesticides for livestock feeds! Makes you wonder a bit, doesn't it?

 

[Murgen]

Brad you might find this interesting too:

How OPs affect health
Exposure to OPs can result in serious health effects.
OPs combine with cholinesterase in the body and
prevent it from breaking down acetylcholine — a
chemical that helps transmit impulses between the
gaps of nerve ends and from nerves to muscles. When
cholinesterase is blocked, the nerves continue to send
messages to muscles.The effects of repeated exposure to OPs add up
because the body replaces cholinesterase slowly. Even
repeated absorption of small doses through the skin —
over a few hours, a day, or many days — can affect
cholinesterase levels. This type of small dose can occur
when contaminated clothing isn't handled properly.

The bold part sounds like "twitching" that you might see in a clinical BSE case.

 

[Murgen]

Sorry to post so much tonight, but I'm finding some real intersting stuff, that I think is valuable to the conversation on BSE.

Here's a link about OP's and ALS, another neurodegenerate desease.

http://home.goulburn.net.au/~shack/organophosphates.htm

 

[Murgen]

Some pyrethroids, another commonly used class of pesticides, also cause permanent hyperactivity in animals exposed to small doses on a single critical day of development.

I wonder what that day of development is? Would it be that one day a calf gets a dose of MBM, or the one when it brushes up against it's dam, after she was treated?

 

[Kathy]

As the new nanotechnology advances, their motto (in medicine at least) is "delivery, delivery, delivery!"

What the, you say?

Getting the medical product to the appropriate cells via nanotechnology is the star in pharmacology.

How Organophosphates are "delivered", and "when" are very important to health issues.

Phosmet used in the UK, was used as a "systemic pour-on", meaning it was in a formula which was meant to be absorbed through the skin and transported throughout the body to where-ever the wrable grub was, and kill it - by "immobilizing it".

Damaging the acetylcholine mechanisms and paralyzing the grub, preventing it from feeding/surviving, and subsequent death (where-ever it was found in the body at the time of treatment). This is why they tell you not to treat at certain times, because you might catch the bug in the trachea area, and cause respiratory problems/death to the cow because the grub is not going to go anywhere after death. The cows "immune system" would then be in charge of getting rid of the garbage (dead grub).
This would take some time.

Exposure to various metals has shown that timing is also important. Rats exposed early, in the womb and at very young age, absorbed and retained more lead in their bodies than those exposed later in life.
Later in life, your immune system is "hopefully" capable of handling the contamination better. Unless, of course, you are exposed to chemicals which damage your immune system mechanisms.

At a young age (infancy) using things like, ie: vaccines with mercury, aluminum, is very dangerous because the immune system is not functioning properly, and the mechanisms to expell the metals are not functioning properly. And secondly, cells are dividing rapidly for new growth (including in the brain) and this allows damage to be more severe. The cells that divide quickest are effected most. This is the whole basis of certain types of chemotherapy treatment, ie: platinum based chemotherapy.

If the OP is designed to be "systemic", rather than just "topical", you should stay away from it for certain. Limit your use of topical OPs.