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Picked out bulls today

Soapweed

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Back in mid February, Peach Blossom and I checked out a good-looking group of yearling bulls that were for sale. They are the top end from a large herd of commercial cows. The owner wanted to keep his pick of twenty, after he had ultra-sounded which would be done in March. At this time, we would get the pick of the next thirty head. Today, I hauled ol' "Goose" along to where the bulls are being wintered, and had fun picking out the thirty bulls. The melting snow resulted in slippery muddy conditions, but still the project went well.

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Our new bulls
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The bulls I didn't pick
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Purveyors of good bulls
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Mud is sure prettier than dust

From there I went to a neighboring ranch, and had opportunity to take these pictures of Hereford cows with their new babies.

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Proud mommas
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Herefords on a neighboring ranch
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Nice cattle
 
Jinglebob said:
So did you check out all the bulls EPD's? :???: :shock:

There was some information from the ultra-sounding, and also daily rate of gain. I was given the opportunity to check out the "paperwork", but declined. It was more fun to just start picking bulls. :wink:
 
Good looking bulls,So how many yearlings do you use every year to breed cows?Here most of our pastures are smaller they hold around 30 pairs so one per will do fine.I have one pasture that holds 80 pairs its cross fenced to rotate I ran 1, 6 year old bull there with 80 cows we are 2 weeks into calveing and 45 of those cows have calved already with the rest pretty close up.

We had mud like that a couple weeks ago I would have to say frozen ground is more to my likeing.
 
We try to use all yearling bulls, but I did hold over nine from last year. I also kept a few home-raised bull calves, and have bought some heifer bulls from another supplier. With yearling bulls, we usually turn out a bull for every 20-25 cows. Usually we run about a hundred to two hundred cows per pasture. Some we rotate, and some are on continuous summer grazing with a neighbor. These we don't turn in until June 1st, to give his summer pastures time to get a good start.

The yearling bulls are just used for one season, and sold about the first of September. The advantages of this are they don't have to be around for two thirds of the year. There is no feed bill on them if they are not on the place, and the feed that they would normally be wintered on can be fed instead to cows that are going to have a calf.

By buying good commercial bulls at a reasonable price, they can be turned after one season. Rent turns out to be fairly inexpensive, but a person has to "own" the bulls during the summer breeding season for this to work. Besides, it's always fun and challenging to get a new bunch of bulls bought every spring. :wink:
 
I can see your point, Soapweed, but I dislike bull shopping enough that I try to keep my bulls as long as they can be expected to do the job and as long I can get along with them! No matter how you eyeball them or go by the numbers bulls are like a box of chocolates, you never really know what you're gonna get!

I bought 2 Hereford 2yr olds and an Angus yearling heifer bull last year. For bulls they have been pretty good to get along with. I hope to keep all 3 of them until they are 6 yrs old or so. I will sit out the bull buying season this year. I won't keep travellers or bulls that get mean. Just not worth the hassle.
 
Mike said:
I was given the opportunity to check out the "paperwork", but declined.


EPD'S=EXTRA PAPERWORK DISTRACTIONS

You nailed it, Mike. It was interesting though, when I'd pick out a bull I liked, often times the owner who was looking at the paperwork and marking down my choices, would remark, "well, this bull excels in so-and-so." That made me feel good about my selection.
 
Soapweed said:
Mike said:
I was given the opportunity to check out the "paperwork", but declined.


EPD'S=EXTRA PAPERWORK DISTRACTIONS

You nailed it, Mike. It was interesting though, when I'd pick out a bull I liked, often times the owner who was looking at the paperwork and marking down my choices, would remark, "well, this bull excels in so-and-so." That made me feel good about my selection.
You better be careful soapweed. If the epd's matched up to what you liked, you better take a second look. :lol:
 
Soapweed: Thanks for the update. From your pictures you don't need any advice from me but I was wondering when you select an AI sire for your virgin heifers what criteria do you use?


By the way keep the pictures and updates coming it is nice that you share them.
 
WB said:
Soapweed: Thanks for the update. From your pictures you don't need any advice from me but I was wondering when you select an AI sire for your virgin heifers what criteria do you use?


By the way keep the pictures and updates coming it is nice that you share them.

Word of mouth, experience of others, etc. We have used Bextor on heifers two different years. I would give him very high marks as a great bull to use on heifers. The birthweights are light, the calves come out vigorous, and we've only had to pull four or five out of 150 that have calved so far. We have some two-year-old daughters out of him that are calving this spring, and they are wonderful new mothers with good udders.
 
While on the subject of AI bred heifers-the man that has been buying our replacement heifers for the past 3 yrs. -AI'd them to "direct hit" -an angus bull. I went and looked at the heifers and theirs new calves and they were really looking good and getting along good with minimal calviing problems. Just curious as if any one else had heard of direct hit-I guess that I am not up to date as I had not even heard of that angus sire.
 
Juan said:
#5,6,7 are the only GOOD cattle pictures you've ever posted. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Glad you liked them, Juan. I did it just for you. :wink: :-) They are cattle from the Arthur Bowring Sandhills Ranch & State Historical Park. They are descendents of the original Bowring Hereford cattle.

When Dad was a kid, the Bowring cattle were the wildest ones in the area, and the neighbors all called it "the Rope and Drag Outfit". Mrs. Bowring had three boys from a previous marriage, and their last name was Forester. Their names were Don, Harold and Frank, and they were pretty wild. Dad said Don could get the swing on the playground going real fast and go clear up over the top horizontal bar, coming down on the other side. That would take guts.

Another of the boys' tricks was to shut off the windmill at the barn. Two would go up and one would "spread eagle" out on the wheel. The other boy would tie the first one's wrists and ankles to the windmill wheel, then climb down and turn it on. They'd get some pretty thrilling rides by doing this.

All of the boys left the ranch to pursue civilized careers, but Don came back in early 1965 to run the ranch for his mother. I was only thirteen that spring, but got to know Don at the brandings. He was an interesting fellow. Tragically he got killed that summer during haying while trying to get a big tall beaver-slide stacker underneath a highline wire. He knew enough about electricity to know that the bottom wire was a ground, so climbed up the stacker to push the wire over the top with a pitchfork. The electricity arched across and electrocuted him. Earlier that day, my dad had visited with Don at the post office.

That fall, his widow Mildred Forester was my eighth grade country school teacher. For students, she had six kids in six different grades. Her son, Bill, who was recently graduated from high school in Lincoln, worked for my dad on our ranch. He and "Mrs. B" didn't see eye-to-eye, which is the reason he worked for us instead of his grandmother.

Arthur Bowring died in 1944, and his widow carried on with the running of the ranch. Mr. Bowring had been involved in Nebraska state politics, and in 1954, Mrs. Bowring was appointed by then-Nebraska Governor Val Peterson to fill out Nebraska Senator Dwight Griswold's term in office, as Mr. Griswold had died unexpectedly. After her term as Senator, she chose not to run for re-election. At that time, with friends in high places, she was appointed as a member of the Federal Parole Board, which she served on from 1956-1964.

It was always a question what would happen to her very nice ranch after she died. We always knew in our hearts that the ranch would never come up for sale, we just didn't know what her plan would be. Upon her death on January 8th, 1985, the ranch was donated to the Nebraska State Game and Parks Commission.

In April of the year she died, an auction was held at the ranch to get rid of surplus equipment. I ended up buying a 1980 Ford F150 4x4 pickup, with only 42,000 actual miles. It was a pretty beat up "ranchy-looking" pickup, but I thought it would work for fencing and other chores. After driving it home from the sale, I realized that it had a few problems. I took it to a local Ford dealer, and told him to fix the broken frame and to do whatever it took so the engine had proper oil pressure again. As the pickup had no radio, I told him if he had one that would fit to go ahead and install it. He got a big grin on his face, and said that he had a radio that would fit it alright, and as a matter of fact it was the very same radio that Mrs. Bowring had him take out of the pickup when she purchased it. She sure didn't want her hired help to enjoy ranching any more than necessary. :wink:

One of her long-time employees stuttered pretty badly. On one occasion, a potential ranch job seeker came along, and she thought she liked him better than the stuttering fellow. She fired the first guy, and he reported to her house to pick up his last check. As he backed away from the house, he stammered, "M-m-m-mrs. B-b-b-bowring, I hope all your d-d-d-d-damned c-c-c-cows d-d-d-die." After a few months, when the "new man" stole a pickup and skipped the country, Mrs. Bowring had to eat crow and hire the first man back. Later, this same stuttering fellow worked for me from 1992-1999. He was a good loyal hand, and I felt honored to be one of the casked-bearers at his funeral.

Mrs. Bowring is still trying to run her old ranch from her grave. I have to give her credit--she's doing a pretty fair job of it, because things always go along quite well on the Arthur Bowring Sandhills Ranch and State Historical Park. It is a local tourist attraction that we highly recommend to visitors.
 
Soapweed ya better hope you didn't accidentally get one of those Japanesse Watusie (spelling i'm sure) that he's also known for! :wink:

Good picture of the bulls and the bull provider. Wonder if he knows he's on the internet? :) A good reputable herd that has been part of a impressive AI program for years I doubt you'll be disappointed in your bulls.

In my opinion the Bowering Ranch is a must see too. Of course I like historical stuff. :-)
 
Great story Soap. Those wild boys sure remind me of some of our neighbors.
If I ever go through that way it will be a sure stop.
All Kidding aside I do enjoy all your pictures, :clap:
 

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