Primer on how to kill a market

[Econ101]

Tam, you will find out one day.

In the mean time, I wish you would get the global perspective that Robert Mac is talking about. Rcalf would not even be a factor without the numerous violations of the law by Tyson and their ruthless business practices that the regulatory agencies in the USDA have either corruptly or incompetently allowed to happen and in the Pickett case, the 11th circuit rubber stamped.
You need to stop defending them as they are the ones who gave rcalf their start by their abuses.

How would you know if R-CALF would be a factor or not? You said you didn't know anything about R-CALF and you just proved it by your statement here. As R-Calf was created to stop trade with Canada long before Tyson was ever in the Beef Business.

The strategy you have embarked on of blind packer backing has only brought more strength to rcalf in the midwest.

Are you telling me that rcalf was formed in response to the things Oldtimer brought up with cattle trade with Canada (bluetounge and stuff)? Maybe we should look into those policies and see what went wrong. Why did rcalf get so big? Did the SSGA have poor policies that allowed rcalf to grow?

 

[Tam]

Tam, you will find out one day.

In the mean time, I wish you would get the global perspective that Robert Mac is talking about. Rcalf would not even be a factor without the numerous violations of the law by Tyson and their ruthless business practices that the regulatory agencies in the USDA have either corruptly or incompetently allowed to happen and in the Pickett case, the 11th circuit rubber stamped.
You need to stop defending them as they are the ones who gave rcalf their start by their abuses.

How would you know if R-CALF would be a factor or not? You said you didn't know anything about R-CALF and you just proved it by your statement here. As R-Calf was created to stop trade with Canada long before Tyson was ever in the Beef Business.

The strategy you have embarked on of blind packer backing has only brought more strength to rcalf in the midwest.

Are you telling me that rcalf was formed in response to the things Oldtimer brought up with cattle trade with Canada (bluetounge and stuff)? Maybe we should look into those policies and see what went wrong. Why did rcalf get so big? Did the SSGA have poor policies that allowed rcalf to grow?

Do your own research on R-CALF but I doubt even knowing how they lie and mislead will change your views as you are just like them a PACKER BLAMER THAT DOESN"T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH.

 

[Econ101]

How would you know if R-CALF would be a factor or not? You said you didn't know anything about R-CALF and you just proved it by your statement here. As R-Calf was created to stop trade with Canada long before Tyson was ever in the Beef Business.

The strategy you have embarked on of blind packer backing has only brought more strength to rcalf in the midwest.

Are you telling me that rcalf was formed in response to the things Oldtimer brought up with cattle trade with Canada (bluetounge and stuff)? Maybe we should look into those policies and see what went wrong. Why did rcalf get so big? Did the SSGA have poor policies that allowed rcalf to grow?

Do your own research on R-CALF but I doubt even knowing how they lie and mislead will change your views as you are just like them a PACKER BLAMER THAT DOESN"T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH.

Are you telling me that rcalf was formed in response to the things Oldtimer brought up with cattle trade with Canada (bluetounge and stuff)? Maybe we should look into those policies and see what went wrong. Why did rcalf get so big? Did the SSGA have poor policies that allowed rcalf to grow?

 

[Tam]

The strategy you have embarked on of blind packer backing has only brought more strength to rcalf in the midwest.

Are you telling me that rcalf was formed in response to the things Oldtimer brought up with cattle trade with Canada (bluetounge and stuff)? Maybe we should look into those policies and see what went wrong. Why did rcalf get so big? Did the SSGA have poor policies that allowed rcalf to grow?

Do your own research on R-CALF but I doubt even knowing how they lie and mislead will change your views as you are just like them a PACKER BLAMER THAT DOESN"T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH.

Are you telling me that rcalf was formed in response to the things Oldtimer brought up with cattle trade with Canada (bluetounge and stuff)? Maybe we should look into those policies and see what went wrong. Why did rcalf get so big? Did the SSGA have poor policies that allowed rcalf to grow?

Gee is this another one of your little games Econ :? if you want to know do a little research. and stop being annoying

 

[Econ101]

Tam, I am really not interested in the rcalf/canada problem when there is not enough information. There is not enough information because our policy makers have not asked nor tried to answer the right questions. They are too busy trying to gain advantage for the big packers to allow the markets to work efficiently and the BSE thing is being used as BS. I think rcalf's stance is to make bse be based on science, not politics, and until Canada and the U.S. take it seriously, they don't want the border opened. This is the policy that could have kept Canada from getting BSE from where they probably got it---England.

Since you are not concerned about market power issues or BSE being taken seriously with transparency, I don't know that you and I will agree on rcalf. That is okay with me. I don't wish repercussions on all the other producers in Canada who don't support packer concentration or abuse of market or political power. If you were and the other packer backers in canada that can not understand these issues and were the only canadians, I would never ask for the border to be opened.

The fact is, there a few honest hard working canadians that do understand these issues and wish they would change but can't individually do anything about it and have to listen to people like you make a mockery out of logical thinking. I feel sorry for them. The trade representatives for both our countries have let producers down and soon it will be harder and harder to make a living in the cattle business as the Tyson's of the world will continue to take your wealth and the wealth produced by other cattlemen. I am sorry I am not going to side with you with rcalf and I wish the canadians would get their own version so some of the problems in the cattle markets could be solved instead of used by big agribusiness to continue to consolidate the cattle business and dry up the free market in animal proteins that allows producers to make a living.