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Posted on Thu, Aug. 30, 2007 10:28 Auburn presents rare challenge for K-State as season-opening opponent
By HOWARD RICHMAN
The Kansas City Star

Instead of hanging up on or ripping into popular Southern-based radio sports talk-show host Paul Finebaum, Kansas State football coach Ron Prince took full responsibility.

"I was on an Alabama radio station the other day, and the host of the radio show said, 'Whoever put together this schedule needs to have their head examined.' I said, 'Well, I guess I'd be in the front of that line,' " Prince said earlier this week.

Nonconference scheduling at K-State sure seems to invite plenty of opinions. For years, former coach Bill Snyder was widely roasted for lining up pushovers such as Indiana State, Montana, Western Kentucky and Temple. Yet even now, after K-State signed up to open its season at a highly regarded program such as Auburn on Saturday night, Prince finds himself answering questions about his sanity.

Auburn, after all, is 33-5 since 2004. Only Southern California, 36-3, and Texas, 34-4, have fared better.

"If you are going to take a step up, and be accountable, you have to play a team like that," former Miami coach Larry Coker said.

This will be just the second time since K-State started playing football in 1896 that it has opened against a ranked opponent. The first occurred in 1973 when the Wildcats lost at No. 14 Florida 21-10.

"Our players are excited about this," Prince said. "Most of them, who when they signed up to come play here, never anticipated they'd get a chance to play against an SEC (Southeastern Conference) opponent unless it was in a bowl game, maybe in January."

Auburn returns seven starters on offense and five on defense from a team that finished 11-2 and defeated Nebraska 17-14 in the Cotton Bowl. Throw in 87,000 rowdy SEC fans, and it's the exact match Prince sought.

"To play against and prepare for a national championship-caliber team was one of our goals in our nonconference scheduling," Prince said, "and to play a team where there's absolutely no doubt about their reputation and their ability, and that both things would be intact and present in the matchup."

An argument could be made about when to play a team like Auburn. Is it better to catch the Tigers early or perhaps as late as the third or fourth game? ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit is more impressed that K-State simply pursued the game at all — even if the Wildcats are risking a streak of 17 season-opening victories, which ties Florida State for second most in the nation to Nebraska's 21.

"We've seen Kansas State play Eastern Illinois, Louisiana-Lafayette, and now all of a sudden they're playing Auburn. That's a great thing," said Herbstreit, adding that his vote in the Associated Press top 25 is swayed by teams that don't dodge tasks of this proportion.

"If Kansas State battles like crazy, even if they come up a little short, I'm going to give them more credit there than for what they do against Missouri State."

K-State wide receiver Daniel Gonzalez loves the challenge.

"You think about Auburn, you think big team," he said. "Great players. Good defense. Just like anybody else thinks. When people hear Auburn, they think they're not human, or they are like machines or something. We're going to go out there and test them, and see what they've got."

Although K-State hasn't played Auburn since 1979, Tigers quarterback Brandon Cox thinks the Wildcats look vaguely familiar.

"Teams from the Big 12 definitely are respected," Cox said. "We're treating it like an SEC game because they are an SEC-caliber team."

And this won't be the last time K-State opens against a marquee opponent. Prince hopes games such as Saturday start getting treated as part of the deal at K-State.

"We need to play these kinds of games," Prince said. "We need to win these kinds of games. We need to be callous toward these types of games in that we know they're going to be a good challenge, that they've got good players, but so do we."



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FUTURE K-STATE SEASON OPENERS

2008 Louisiana-Lafayette
2009 Massachusetts
2010 UCLA
2011 Oregon
2012 at Oregon
2013 TBA
2014 at Virginia Tech
Source: Kansas State




To reach Howard Richman, K-State reporter for The Star, call 816-234-4701 or send e-mail to [email protected]
 
jigs said:
will you still be feeling the love if we win on Saturday?

I don't know so much about love, but I do kinda admire Prince for at least trying to pick some quality opponents for openers.


Don't you think Auburn is playing a quality opening team? :wink:

It'll be a good game Jigs. Win lose or draw. Good luck.
 
yes, I do love the idea of quality opponents. Auburn as the opener? well biting off a bit much I think, but to be the best, you gotta play the best.
(insert comment about NU and Nevada here) and I love his no bull approach. it is his ship, join the crew, or walk the plank! plus stealing Freeman away from NU just made me like the guy instantly!
husker fans will say he was not good enough, but they wouldn't talk about it if it didn't hurt!!


here is to a good game. and if you win, I will set you up with a case of your favorite beer. you supply your own dirty little tramp, I coulod get you one, but I would have to go into Nebraska to find one!
 
Jigs, "yes, I do love the idea of quality opponents. Auburn as the opener? well biting off a bit much I think, but to be the best, you gotta play the best.
(insert comment about NU and Nevada here) "

Unless you consider UL-Lafayette and UMass the best, I guess you won't be the best the next two years, then. :lol:

I would like to insert a comment about NU; We're playing two conference champions, one the defending National Champion. After Auburn you've got San Jose St. and MISSOURI ST - and you're giving us crap? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
the next 2 years thehuskers play Va. Tech.

2008
San Jose State New Mexico St.
Western Mich.
2009
Fla. Atlantic La.-Lafayette Arkansas State

now, who is the cupcake king???
 
here is to a good game. and if you win, I will set you up with a case of your favorite beer. you supply your own dirty little tramp, I coulod get you one, but I would have to go into Nebraska to find one!

I'll do the same for you on the beer.

Thanks, but there'll be enough tramps hanging around my house tonite. :???:

No comment on the Neb. girls/tramps. :shock: I can't afford to piss katrina off. I might get some jelly. :gag:

By the way. One of the biggest tailgate parties in Auburn today is at the "Beef Teaching Unit" and is sponsored by Decatur County Feedyards in Oberlin, Kansas. The Weiberts are huge KSU fans and there will be thousands of Auburn fans there to wish them well. :wink:

Somebody told me they were cooking a whole steer.
 
Most teams put their best lineman at left tackle. If that's the best you've got, Jigs, geeeeeeeeze. That guy suuuuuuuuuucks. Maybe if he had a man's haircut.......
 
Sandhusker said:
Most teams put their best lineman at left tackle. If that's the best you've got, Jigs, geeeeeeeeze. That guy suuuuuuuuuucks. Maybe if he had a man's haircut.......

I agree that Alesana guy is the weak link on the KSU line. May have something to do with him having two first names?

I was impressed with Freeman and Campbell though.

What happened to the mighty OSU? :lol: :lol:

I hit on my 3 game parlay. :wink:

Didn't Wake's QB get hurt? Might change the spread some.
 
The Mildcats beat themselves. Over 100 yards in penalties? Unacceptable. I was glad to see them have to head back to Manhattan with a mark in the "Loss" column, though.

Too bad CSU couldn't finish the job on Colorado. That was a good game, too.

Glad to see things are shaping up in Lincoln. It was reminiscent of the old days, 70's, 80's, or 90's, it was all good. ABC had the sense to send Brent Musberger somewhere else. That feeble minded tard is not welcome in the Cornhusker state.

Oklahoma looked impressive last night, too.

Say what you want, think what you will....the road to the National Championship runs straight through the Big 12.
 
Mike said:
What happened to the mighty OSU? :lol: :lol:
I assume you mean Oklahoma State. They did about what was expected when a top 20 ranked team plays an unranked team. K-State had it going except for the final three minutes, so I wouldn't be so proud of that win. Oklahoma did what was expected in Norman, The Tennessee California game was expected (that's why they rank those guys), Texas and LSU beat their third tier openers, although with less decisiveness than OU did to North Texas (is there an advantage somewhere to win by 69 points instead of 45?). The only real shock of the day was Michigan.....at least they have a shot at the number one spot......next year........
 
Goodpasture said:
Mike said:
What happened to the mighty OSU? :lol: :lol:
I assume you mean Oklahoma State. They did about what was expected when a top 20 ranked team plays an unranked team. K-State had it going except for the final three minutes, so I wouldn't be so proud of that win. Oklahoma did what was expected in Norman, The Tennessee California game was expected (that's why they rank those guys), Texas and LSU beat their third tier openers, although with less decisiveness than OU did to North Texas (is there an advantage somewhere to win by 69 points instead of 45?). The only real shock of the day was Michigan.....at least they have a shot at the number one spot......next year........

Yea, I mean Oklahoma State. All I've heard for the past few weeks is how high powered their offense is. They got juked yesterday by an SEC team and I love it.

I'm VERY proud of the Auburn win. It just goes to show that you can't play an SEC team for 57 minutes and win. It takes the whole 60 minute thingy. I WILL give KSU some credit though. They played with guts MOST of the game.

Prince was smart in playing this game. He realized he can't lose whether he won this game or not and let it all hang out.

Say what you want, think what you will....the road to the National Championship runs straight through the Big 12.

Maybe the SOUTHERN division of the Big 12! :lol:
 
Mike said:
Say what you want, think what you will....the road to the National Championship runs straight through the Big 12.

Maybe the SOUTHERN division of the Big 12! :lol:
Any time you forget Nebraska, you are apt to get Appalachian Stated.......they will come in and just flat beat your ash..........
 
I think the roughing the kicker penalty was the big swing of momentum in the game. that is where AU took it and where we lost the game

alesana was up against the TOP D lineman in the nation. I imagine that guy will reak havok on EVERY team this season.

this game proved to me that we will contend for the north title.

it was a win win for us, no matter how the score ended. going in there, with that crowd, was a ballsy move, and I think we held our own.

you MUST play the WHOLE game, but I think the better team lost last night. hopw we get a rematch in the bowl games!

Mike p.m. me with your address and beer of choice!
 
Goodpasture.....you and I can at least agree on THAT! :wink:

The Big 12 is the Big 12, North or South, it doesn't matter. If you imagine that a team is good enough to be #1, before they can actually lay claim to that, they must defeat a Big 12 team. And never, NEVER look past Mizzou! They play tough year after year after year.

Mike...can we agree that Notre Dame does, has, and always will...SUCK!!!???
 
Mike...can we agree that Notre Dame does, has, and always will...SUCK!!!???

Yes. On that we agree!

Jigs, just hold on to that case of beer and I'll come up one day and we'll drink it together.

it was a win win for us, no matter how the score ended. going in there, with that crowd, was a ballsy move, and I think we held our own.

Yup. You definitely held your own.

That halfback pass for the touchdown sure fooled the heck out of Groves.

Great play calling.
 
I am more impressed with our D. it is like we used to have. after last night, I think it is safe to say, "the LYNCH MOB is back"

man, I love this time of year!!!
 
Mike said:
Sandhusker said:
Most teams put their best lineman at left tackle. If that's the best you've got, Jigs, geeeeeeeeze. That guy suuuuuuuuuucks. Maybe if he had a man's haircut.......

I agree that Alesana guy is the weak link on the KSU line. May have something to do with him having two first names?

I was impressed with Freeman and Campbell though.

What happened to the mighty OSU? :lol: :lol:

I hit on my 3 game parlay. :wink:

Didn't Wake's QB get hurt? Might change the spread some.

I was very disappointed with Okie St. - I thought they were better than that.

Who was in your teamer?
 
loomixguy said:
Goodpasture.....you and I can at least agree on THAT! :wink:

The Big 12 is the Big 12, North or South, it doesn't matter. If you imagine that a team is good enough to be #1, before they can actually lay claim to that, they must defeat a Big 12 team. And never, NEVER look past Mizzou! They play tough year after year after year.

Mike...can we agree that Notre Dame does, has, and always will...SUCK!!!???

Mizzou sure stunk it up against Ill. They play like that in the Big 12 and they might beat Iowa St.
 

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