R-CALF: 3rd Annual Regional Meeting In Reno

[Draggin "N"]

Question....you mentioned the Bio fuel that the government seems to be trying to sell us here in the US as a great deal and a "fix" for our oil cost problems! Where is the alcohol that is produced going to go?? I have been told it is going to an OIL Refinery....(bought by them) and added to fuel.! That is laughable! Does anyone think that the OIL companies are going to Cut the cost of fuel, because they have alcohol to add to it?? They could cut the cost of fuel in half today if they wanted to, without any bio-fuel at all! The oil companys are restricting production to max out the profit on oil! Why would they want to cut their own profit margin?
As far as a solution to the cattle ranching problems in NORTH AMERICA, we are doing just what the Packers want, and that is fighting with each other, insted of fighting with them! I do NOT know what the answer is to our situation, but I know what it is NOT, and that us fighting with each other will never help the Big Picture! We must get together and stop the price fixing by the Packers...or we will all be company cattle farmers soon!
Ross

 

[QUESTION]

Drag"N" the bio feul thing well lets just say it isn't as cut and dry as some think. In doing a env. inpact and a cost benefit analysis for growing grain for ethanol is not feasible long term. Cellulose based ethanol production does work when you use sugar cane or switch grass. and the use of canola in bio diesel. But other products aren't profitable long term. The funny thing is so much natural gas is used up in making fertilizer to get the high grain yeild will keep oil prices up. So old George didn't think of that yeah right just filling the pockets of the energy giants but looking good to the enviro culture doing it. LMAO
I agree noth american cattlemen should unite but groups like r-caslf tend to make that more difficult. it makes me wonder if they are controlled or funded by the packers ? After all they don't have to let anyone know who is funding them or who is a member. I wonder if Mr. Tyson is the puppet master behind r-calf.

 

[Sandhusker]

QUESTION, "After all they don't have to let anyone know who is funding them or who is a member"

Try to get a membership list from any organization. They don't give them out.

 

[QUESTION]

I guess that is something the US has to work on. Any group that has a membership has a list avalible in Canada be it profit or non-profit. If you want to belong to a group you should be willing to have everyone know about it. It is about honesty and pride. Why not make a membership list public - fear of reprecussions. Have a set or grow them don't hide in the shadows like a coward.

 

[Sandhusker]

I guess that is something the US has to work on. Any group that has a membership has a list avalible in Canada be it profit or non-profit. If you want to belong to a group you should be willing to have everyone know about it. It is about honesty and pride. Why not make a membership list public - fear of reprecussions. Have a set or grow them don't hide in the shadows like a coward.

That's not it at all, Q. It's about privacy and not having that list get out to the marketers who send everybody on that list their "offers" and then sell that list to somebody else who does the same. Do you want your name and address available to anybody who wants it? It's about common sense.

 

[Ben Roberts]

Hay maker wrote_"Ben,you are losing a lil credibility here with your far fetched reasoning,Canada is high on R CALF's priority list because of their BSE history,nothing more,nothing less.................good luck"[/quote]


Hay Maker, far fetched reasoning? Canada (has been) high on R-CALF's priority list, before BSE was an issue in Canada! Fact is, American packers importing cattle from Canada, is the reason why R-CALF exist, nothing more, nothing less!

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

 

[Sandhusker]

Hay maker wrote_"Ben,you are losing a lil credibility here with your far fetched reasoning,Canada is high on R CALF's priority list because of their BSE history,nothing more,nothing less.................good luck"

Hay Maker, far fetched reasoning? Canada (has been) high on R-CALF's priority list, before BSE was an issue in Canada! Fact is, American packers importing cattle from Canada, is the reason why R-CALF exist, nothing more, nothing less!

Best Regards
Ben Roberts[/quote]

Allow me to correct you, Ben. American packers importing Cattle from Canada was the reason R-CALF started. Since then, the organization has grown into being concerned with and acting on issues that affect profitability of US cattlemen on multiple fronts.

 

[Ben Roberts]

Hay maker wrote_"Ben,you are losing a lil credibility here with your far fetched reasoning,Canada is high on R CALF's priority list because of their BSE history,nothing more,nothing less.................good luck"

Hay Maker, far fetched reasoning? Canada (has been) high on R-CALF's priority list, before BSE was an issue in Canada! Fact is, American packers importing cattle from Canada, is the reason why R-CALF exist, nothing more, nothing less!

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

Allow me to correct you, Ben. American packers importing Cattle from Canada was the reason R-CALF started. Since then, the organization has grown into being concerned with and acting on issues that affect profitability of US cattlemen on multiple fronts.[/quote]


Send me a list of the issues, that dosen't place Canada, high on R-CALF's
priority list.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

 

[Sandhusker]

Hay maker wrote_"Ben,you are losing a lil credibility here with your far fetched reasoning,Canada is high on R CALF's priority list because of their BSE history,nothing more,nothing less.................good luck"

Hay Maker, far fetched reasoning? Canada (has been) high on R-CALF's priority list, before BSE was an issue in Canada! Fact is, American packers importing cattle from Canada, is the reason why R-CALF exist, nothing more, nothing less!

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

Allow me to correct you, Ben. American packers importing Cattle from Canada was the reason R-CALF started. Since then, the organization has grown into being concerned with and acting on issues that affect profitability of US cattlemen on multiple fronts.

Send me a list of the issues, that dosen't place Canada, high on R-CALF's
priority list.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts[/quote]

What does enforcement of PSA have to do with Canada?

 

[Ben Roberts]

I stand corrected Sandhusker, and thank you for pointing that issue out for me. I sincerely apologize to you, R-CALF and its members, for making that statement.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

 

[Sandhusker]

I stand corrected Sandhusker, and thank you for pointing that issue out for me. I sincerely apologize to you, R-CALF and its members, for making that statement.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

Apology accepted. R-CALF is also working on the farm bill, fixing the state inspected packers issue, reporting, COOL, fair trade, packer concentration, NAIS, private property rights, etc...

 

[Ben Roberts]

I stand corrected Sandhusker, and thank you for pointing that issue out for me. I sincerely apologize to you, R-CALF and its members, for making that statement.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

Apology accepted. R-CALF is also working on the farm bill, fixing the state inspected packers issue, reporting, COOL, fair trade, packer concentration, NAIS, private property rights, etc...

Sandhusker, i've said many times that the only issues that I have with R-CALF is their issues with Canada and COOL. If it weren't for those two issues, I more than likely would be a member and promoter for them.


Best Regards
Ben Roberts