R-Calf and Swift Horses

[Liberty Belle]

I don't know if anyone has posted this or not, but since a friend just emailed it to me I'm going to post it for you since it has all the ins and outs, letters and emails concerning the R-Calf fuss. Pretty darn interesting and it sure makes some of us shake our heads... http://swifthorses.com/

 

[Anonymous]

Hey Betty!

It was bound to happen!

When you have an oranization led by LMA representatives they are going to push their own agenda and that's exactly what Johnny Smith did.

The truth means nothing to Johnny Smith and Bill Bullard. In one of the board meetings Johnny Smith actually credited USDA for a 25% reduction in cattle prices. What Johnny really needs is for someone to take him apart publicly with factual information. He is so used to grandstanding what he wants to believe without ever being challenged on it for supporting facts that he gets enough people thinking the way he does and they get rid of the opposing viewpoints.

I hope this industry will finally see R-CALF for the lying, deceptive organization that they have become being led by Johnny Smith and Bill Bullard.


~SH~

 

[Hanta Yo]

I don't know if anyone has posted this or not, but since a friend just emailed it to me I'm going to post it for you since it has all the ins and outs, letters and emails concerning the R-Calf fuss. Pretty darn interesting and it sure makes some of us shake our heads... http://swifthorses.com/

Northern Rancher posted it, it's on his thread, "interesting". Very very interesting reading.

 

[HAY MAKER]

I don't know if anyone has posted this or not, but since a friend just emailed it to me I'm going to post it for you since it has all the ins and outs, letters and emails concerning the R-Calf fuss. Pretty darn interesting and it sure makes some of us shake our heads... http://swifthorses.com/

Northern Rancher posted it, it's on his thread, "interesting". Very very interesting reading.

Im missing something here ,what's so interesting ?Why are you shaking your head Betty?,I readily admitt to being an uneducated red neck,maybe you can explain what you see ,that I dont ?
who is this swifthorses ? who are they funded by Ncba ? Ami ? R calf is the only cattlemans assc. promoting cattlemans rights.................good luck

 

[Sandhusker]

You have two people making opposing statements regarding the board following the rules or not. The one saying they didn't posts behind a pen name. The one saying they did posts under his name; Randy Stevenson. Take that for what you will.

 

[Work Hard and Study Hard]

From what I read in the Tri-State Livestock News the new president is still opposed to OTM Canadian Beef and will try to stop UTM Canadian beef. R-Calf knows where their bread is buttered and I do to.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't know if anyone has posted this or not, but since a friend just emailed it to me I'm going to post it for you since it has all the ins and outs, letters and emails concerning the R-Calf fuss. Pretty darn interesting and it sure makes some of us shake our heads... http://swifthorses.com/

Northern Rancher posted it, it's on his thread, "interesting". Very very interesting reading.

Im missing something here ,what's so interesting ?Why are you shaking your head Betty?,I readily admitt to being an uneducated red neck,maybe you can explain what you see ,that I dont ?
who is this swifthorses ? who are they funded by Ncba ? Ami ? R calf is the only cattlemans assc. promoting cattlemans rights.................good luck

I sent them an e-mail with my name, address, phone number, etc. questioning who they were- commenting that even scum like Ditmer puts his name on his one man foundation website... I am still waiting to get an answer to who this swifthorses is.....But since this was about a week ago- I'm not holding my breath...

I take little from anyone who is not big enough to put their name behind what they say....If they want to put out info, fine-- but have enough cajones to put your name behind it.....

 

[Anonymous]

All you have to do is look at the number of resignations. Heck, according to this Swift Horse Documentation, even the DC office closed.

Why is this surprising? You have Bullard lying every day to producers and you have Johnny Smith lying every day to producers. What a perfect tag team to get rid of anyone with a conscience.

R-CULT is showing their true colors. The radical fringe is taking over and they will run it into the dirt because most people care about truth.

What difference does it make WHO Swift Horses is OT??? Hoping to discredit them as opposed to contradicting what they are saying??? Didn't like what you read so you want to attack the messenger with your little support group of Bullard clones?

Almost half of R-CALF walked away from "TEAM BULLARD".

Where R-CULT made their mistake is letting LMA reps like Herman and Johnny take over Leo's "fair trade" organization and bring their packer blaming, USDA blaming, NCBA lying agenda with them. The LMA's priorities is to keep your cattle routed through their barns. Their profitability is a priority over yours.

In the board minutes Johnny Smith credits USDA for a 25% reduction in cattle prices. Anyone that would believe such a stupid statement deserves to watch their organization crumble. Good grief. I'll bet he'd stutter and stammer if he had to explain why feeder cattle prices were hihger in 2005 with an opened Canadian border than in 2004 with a closed Canadian border.

You R-CULT followers give those turbins another wrap and keep following these guys but don't say nobody warned you. It's pretty said when Leo McDonnell has to resign from the organization he started due to a hostile takeover by the likes of Bullard and Johnny Smith.


~SH~

 

[Sandhusker]

Leo is still a member.

 

[Hanta Yo]

Looks to me R-Calf was having problems over a year ago...seemed nothing was done to change things...I've been suspicious of R-Calf's claim to X number of members, and the dues income doesn't jive, plus R-Calf BOD didn't get financials every month or at each BOD meeting, that is a poor way to do business. Of course, Bullard had something in that as his salary increased with membership increase and their membership has been decreasing and his salary still has been increasing. For someone who went bankrupt before his CEO job with R-Calf it is no wonder.

 

[TimH]

Oldtimer wrote-

I take little from anyone who is not big enough to put their name behind what they say....If they want to put out info, fine-- but have enough cajones to put your name behind it....

What about your buddy "Econ101"???? Does this apply to her as well??

 

[Anonymous]

Sandcheska: "Leo is still a member."

Leo resigned from his position.

Hanta Yo you bring up another point. When it was brought to R-CULT's attention that their membership had declined, they tried to excuse it as a change in how they were recording memberships WHICH IS AN ADMISSION OF INITIAL DECEPTION.

That is what R-CULT is all about. DECEPTION and that's why deceivers like OT and Sandcheska support them. They can relate.

As Tim pointed out, OT criticizes Swift Horses for remaining anonymous but defends Lying King for remaining anonymous. Hypocrite through and through.


~SH~

 

[Anonymous]

Oldtimer wrote-

I take little from anyone who is not big enough to put their name behind what they say....If they want to put out info, fine-- but have enough cajones to put your name behind it....

What about your buddy "Econ101"???? Does this apply to her as well??

I know who he is-- have talked with him personally...More than I do about a TimH or a don or a Bill that claim to be a Canucks, but hide behind a wall of anonymity :wink: :lol: :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

OT: "I know who he is-- have talked with him personally...More than I do about a TimH or a don or a Bill that claim to be a Canucks, but hide behind a wall of anonymity"

Hahaha! Listen to you!

You defended Lying King's anonymity and now you are criticizing others for it.

Tim H, Bill and Don are real names.

Do you expect us to believe that your name is Old Timer?

You're such a damn hypocrite.


~SH~

 

[Anonymous]

OT: "I know who he is-- have talked with him personally...More than I do about a TimH or a don or a Bill that claim to be a Canucks, but hide behind a wall of anonymity"

Hahaha! Listen to you!

You defended Lying King's anonymity and now you are criticizing others for it.

Tim H, Bill and Don are real names.

Do you expect us to believe that your name is Old Timer?

You're such a damn hypocrite.


~SH~

You're almost as dumb as this Canuck character on cattletoday that calls himself Saskartoon...Just sent me a PM with my name and address and wifes name-- like he was threatening or something...Claiming NOW he knows who I am...Just found out.... :roll:

The DUMMY could have looked on my website thats posted at the bottom of every post and got all that info years ago--If he'd had a brain :wink: :lol: :lol:

Sorry ~SH~ (is that your name?) I don't buy that I have lived an anonymous life or anonymous posts....

 

[Anonymous]

You are still diverting Old Timer.

You defended Lying King's anonymity and said there was a good reason for it and now you are criticizing swift horses for the same thing.

That's hypocrisy and par for your course lawdog!


~SH~


Scott Huber
Kadoka, SD

 

[Anonymous]

You are still diverting Old Timer.

You defended Lying King's anonymity and said there was a good reason for it and now you are criticizing swift horses for the same thing.

That's hypocrisy and par for your course lawdog!


~SH~


Scott Huber
Kadoka, SD

I don't think econ created a website like Ditmer or Swifthorses either....

You must be one of the only ones that old econ 101 don't trust (no surprise :roll: :wink: :lol: ) because I've talked to many on here that know who he is and what his situation is....

I did find it funny that when you and a couple Canucks posted on swifthorses they didn't put their names....

 

[Sandhusker]

Sandcheska: "Leo is still a member."

SH, "Leo resigned from his position."

It's pretty said when Leo McDonnell has to resign from the organization he started due to a hostile takeover by the likes of Bullard and Johnny Smith.

So what's your story? Do you have any idea of what you're talking about?

 

[Mike]

You are still diverting Old Timer.

You defended Lying King's anonymity and said there was a good reason for it and now you are criticizing swift horses for the same thing.

That's hypocrisy and par for your course lawdog!


~SH~


Scott Huber
Kadoka, SD

I don't think econ created a website like Ditmer or Swifthorses either....

You must be one of the only ones that old econ 101 don't trust (no surprise :roll: :wink: :lol: ) because I've talked to many on here that know who he is and what his situation is....

I did find it funny that when you and a couple Canucks posted on swifthorses they didn't put their names....

"ANONYMOUS" :???: :???: :???: :???: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

OT: "I don't think econ created a website like Ditmer or Swifthorses either...."

Another "RED HERRING"!

What does that have to do with anything?

OT: "You must be one of the only ones that old econ 101 don't trust (no surprise ) because I've talked to many on here that know who he is and what his situation is...."

Why did you defend Conman's anonymity and not Swift horses you damn hypocrite?

OT: "I did find it funny that when you and a couple Canucks posted on swifthorses they didn't put their names...."

Did you find it funny how many R-CULT supporters didn't leave their names?

You are such a HYPOCRITE!



~SH~