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> U.S. ranchers to push ahead on cattle fight
> Beth Gorham
> Canadian Press
> Friday, April 07, 2006
>
> WASHINGTON -- A U.S. ranchers' group said Thursday it's not giving up its
> fight to stop some Canadian cattle from crossing the border, despite losing
> its bid this week for a total ban.
>
> R-CALF United Stockgrowers will now target U.S. government plans to resume
> trade in older cows and beef products, said the group which has long argued
> imports are unsafe because of Canada's mad cow cases.
>
> Montana District Judge Richard Cebull has denied R-CALF's request for a
> hearing on a permanent injunction, saying his "hands are tied" by a previous
> appeals court ruling that found officials had a firm basis for reopening the
> border.
>
> "R-CALF is deeply disapointed with the outcome," said president Chuck Kiker.
>
> "This is a loss for every single cattle producer in the United States."
>
> The group is asking members to vote by mail-in ballots to take "appropriate
> action" against the U.S. government. Its legal challenges prolonged a crisis
> for Canadian cattlemen that hit when Canada's first mad cow case was
> discovered in May 2003.
>
> A number of options will be considered, said Kiker.
>
> In Canada, Agriculture Minister Chuck Strahl welcomed Cebull's decision,
> calling it a "great development."
>
> "Canada and the U.S. continue to have the same risk status," he said.
>
> "Both our countries have adopted extensive complementary and parallel
> measures to protect human and animal health, as well as food safety, based
> on internationally recognized science standards."
>
> Trade in younger cows resumed last July because they're thought to be at
> lower risk for bovine spongiform encephalopathy. Now the U.S. Agriculture
> Department is working on a new rule to allow cows older than 30 months of
> age and their beef products, as well as breeding animals.
>
> A fourth cow with BSE was discovered in Canada in January and industry
> observers said that will push back the time line a bit on issuing the rule.
>
> The cow contracted the disease after a 1997 ban was imposed on giving cows
> any feed made from cattle, thought to be the prime way BSE is spread.
>
> "Initially, the thought was that could be done this summer," said Gregg Doud
> at the National Cattlemen's Beef Association.
>
> "That's clearly slipped some but by how much we don't know."
>
> Doud said R-CALF's latest court loss will have no effect on the government
> process.
>
> Cebull is the judge who issued a temporary injuction in March 2005, stalling
> government plans to reopen the border for four months until the appeals
> court overturned the order.
>
> He said he found the U.S. government's decision "arbitrary and capricious."
>
> The cattle trade has now reached about 80 per cent of what it was before the
> border closed.
>
> R-CALF is angry the United States is importing so many Canadian cows, while
> U.S. export markets have been devastated by its own BSE cases.
>
> "Export markets have largely remained closed for more than two years, while
> imports of live Canadian cattle and beef continue to increase," said Kiker.
>
> "This is depressing U.S. prices because many U.S. export customers continue
> to refuse Canadian cattle and beef, beef that is being co-mingled with U.S.
> beef but not marketed as such."
> (c) The Canadian Press 2006
>


That remark about export markets not wanting co-mingled meat from US and Canada is BS. Heck we ship to Japan. Bet they don't want US meat co-mingled with Canadian.
 
Here is another gem from Kiker in Beef Cow/calf weekly:

R-CALF Loses Again On Canada Border Issue
R-CALF's losses in its war against the Canadian beef industry continued this week as U.S. District Court Judge Richard Cebull in a motion for summary judgment denied a permanent injunction against imports of Canadian live cattle and beef. The case has been pending before Cebull since July 2005.

R-CALF president and Region V director Chuck Kiker says the group's board will consider options to continue those efforts.

"R-CALF remains convinced USDA's decision to allow in imports of cattle and beef from Canada -- a country that clearly has an ongoing BSE problem -- without strengthening measures to prevent the introduction and spread of BSE -- is bad policy and inconsistent with the agency's mandate to protect U.S. ag from foreign diseases," he says.

North of the border, news of Cebull's decision for cattle producers was, of course, met with opposite reaction.

"It's a great relief," says Canadian Cattlemen's Association (CCA) president Hugh Lynch-Staunton. "When the border reopened to under-30 month of age feeder and slaughter cattle last July, many Canadians thought the BSE issue was over. We were well aware a decision against us in the court in Montana could have shut the border again."

R-CALF can appeal Cebull's decision to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, but it was the Ninth Circuit that reversed the preliminary injunction ordered by Cebull that temporarily halted the border re-opening to Canadian live cattle imports last year. The Ninth Circuit also denied R-CALF's request for a rehearing of that reversal.
-- Clint Peck
strengthening measures to prevent the introduction and spread of BSE?

Pssssttt Chuckie... hate to tell you this but you don't need to worry about BSE being introduced, the US has had two native native born cases. :roll: [/quote]
 
And is it Tyson selling MBM for use in poultry feed and feeding it to their poultry in those areas?
 
Econ101 said:
And it is Tyson selling MBM for use in poultry feed and feeding it to their poultry in those areas.

Can you prove this statement???? I think we would all like to know if it was chicken litter that caused the USA BSE PROBLEM BUT the age of the animals say they could have been fed the MBM BEFORE IT WAS BAN in cattle feed itself. Your need to blame Tyson for everything is just to much. :roll: :roll:
 
Econ101 said:
And it is Tyson selling MBM for use in poultry feed and feeding it to their poultry in those areas.
You seem to think you know much more than USDA about the origin of the last BSE case. Where exactly did she originate?
 
Tam said:
Econ101 said:
And it is Tyson selling MBM for use in poultry feed and feeding it to their poultry in those areas.

Can you prove this statement???? I think we would all like to know if it was chicken litter that caused the USA BSE PROBLEM BUT the age of the animals say they could have been fed the MBM BEFORE IT WAS BAN in cattle feed itself. Your need to blame Tyson for everything is just to much. :roll: :roll:

Tam, the question is why we need competent and transparent investigations.
To require proof before a competent investigation is called for might be a trait people in your area go for, but in my area, it is a necessary part of a competent investigation. Possibilities are ruled out based on investigations, not ruled out based on possiblities.

I will be glad to put a question mark on my question, as it was a typo.
 
Manitoba_Rancher said:
Econ do you live on a ranch and own cattle? Not that I have anything against you if you dont, was jsut wondering.

MR, do you live in Canada and constantly comment on the U.S. beef industry? Do you have an interest in buying or selling cattle to outside of the raising it yourself to Tyson or Cargill?

Not that I have anything against you if you dont, was jsut wondering.
 
Manitoba_Rancher said:
So I take it Econ you dont have any cattle. This site is for serious cattle ranchers not wannabes like you. :roll:

I take it you are a cattle buyer for Cargill/Tyson. This is a website for ranchers, not packers.

Go start your own packer.net site and stay off of ranchers.net.
 
Econ101 said:
Manitoba_Rancher said:
Econ do you live on a ranch and own cattle? Not that I have anything against you if you dont, was jsut wondering.

MR, do you live in Canada and constantly comment on the U.S. beef industry? Do you have an interest in buying or selling cattle to outside of the raising it yourself to Tyson or Cargill?

Not that I have anything against you if you dont, was jsut wondering.

Maybe you would like to answer for him, BMR.
 

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