Big Muddy rancher
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What I can't figure is R-CALF backing Creekstone proposal to test UTM cattle and Creekstone wanting to bring in Canadian cattle. Maybe DeBruycker was going to supply them.
Big Muddy rancher said:What I can't figure is R-CALF backing Creekstone proposal to test UTM cattle and Creekstone wanting to bring in Canadian cattle. Maybe DeBruycker was going to supply them.
Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:What I can't figure is R-CALF backing Creekstone proposal to test UTM cattle and Creekstone wanting to bring in Canadian cattle. Maybe DeBruycker was going to supply them.
Creekstone wanted to test Canadian cattle to get some use out of their testing facility. They had a couple million investment sitting there idle and they wanted it to generate some cash flow.
TimH said:Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:What I can't figure is R-CALF backing Creekstone proposal to test UTM cattle and Creekstone wanting to bring in Canadian cattle. Maybe DeBruycker was going to supply them.
Creekstone wanted to test Canadian cattle to get some use out of their testing facility. They had a couple million investment sitting there idle and they wanted it to generate some cash flow.
Sandhusker, are you saying that ,under those circumstances(the need to generate cash flow), R-Calf would not have any objections to importing cattle from Canada?
TimH said:Sandhusker, in your original response to BMR's 1st post, you said, "Creekstone wanted to test Canadian cattle to get some use out of their testing facility. " That was Creekstone's proposal.
Now you seem to be saying R-calf supports Creekstones testing of domestic cattle only.
I'm confused??? :???:
Big Muddy rancher said:Like I said R-CALF says it supports Creekstone but Creekstone wanted to bring in Canadian cattle. How do we make it any plainer Sandy?
So does R-CALF support importing of Canadian cattle or not? If not I guess they don't really support Creekstone. Guess the rest of the R-CALFers are waiting to see what Leo wants them to say.
Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:Like I said R-CALF says it supports Creekstone but Creekstone wanted to bring in Canadian cattle. How do we make it any plainer Sandy?
So does R-CALF support importing of Canadian cattle or not? If not I guess they don't really support Creekstone. Guess the rest of the R-CALFers are waiting to see what Leo wants them to say.
Guys, how can I make it any simpler? R-CALF supported Creekstone's original plan to test domestic cattle to meet a customers demands. That's it. Plain and simple and easy to understand.
You guys are trying to parlay that into a blanket approval of everything Creekstone wanted to do after being denied. That is not the case.
Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:Like I said R-CALF says it supports Creekstone but Creekstone wanted to bring in Canadian cattle. How do we make it any plainer Sandy?
So does R-CALF support importing of Canadian cattle or not? If not I guess they don't really support Creekstone. Guess the rest of the R-CALFers are waiting to see what Leo wants them to say.
Guys, how can I make it any simpler? R-CALF supported Creekstone's original plan to test domestic cattle to meet a customers demands. That's it. Plain and simple and easy to understand.
You guys are trying to parlay that into a blanket approval of everything Creekstone wanted to do after being denied. That is not the case.
Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:Like I said R-CALF says it supports Creekstone but Creekstone wanted to bring in Canadian cattle. How do we make it any plainer Sandy?
So does R-CALF support importing of Canadian cattle or not? If not I guess they don't really support Creekstone. Guess the rest of the R-CALFers are waiting to see what Leo wants them to say.
Guys, how can I make it any simpler? R-CALF supported Creekstone's original plan to test domestic cattle to meet a customers demands. That's it. Plain and simple and easy to understand.
You guys are trying to parlay that into a blanket approval of everything Creekstone wanted to do after being denied. That is not the case.
Big Muddy rancher said:Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:Like I said R-CALF says it supports Creekstone but Creekstone wanted to bring in Canadian cattle. How do we make it any plainer Sandy?
So does R-CALF support importing of Canadian cattle or not? If not I guess they don't really support Creekstone. Guess the rest of the R-CALFers are waiting to see what Leo wants them to say.
Guys, how can I make it any simpler? R-CALF supported Creekstone's original plan to test domestic cattle to meet a customers demands. That's it. Plain and simple and easy to understand.
You guys are trying to parlay that into a blanket approval of everything Creekstone wanted to do after being denied. That is not the case.
By the looks of the letter testing Canadian cattle was part of the ORIGINAL plan :!:
TimH said:Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:Like I said R-CALF says it supports Creekstone but Creekstone wanted to bring in Canadian cattle. How do we make it any plainer Sandy?
So does R-CALF support importing of Canadian cattle or not? If not I guess they don't really support Creekstone. Guess the rest of the R-CALFers are waiting to see what Leo wants them to say.
Guys, how can I make it any simpler? R-CALF supported Creekstone's original plan to test domestic cattle to meet a customers demands. That's it. Plain and simple and easy to understand.
You guys are trying to parlay that into a blanket approval of everything Creekstone wanted to do after being denied. That is not the case.
Has R-Calf withdrawn their support of Creekstones proposals, then?
Why did they(Creekstone) propose importing CDN cattle to "generate cash flow"? Why couldn't they generate cash flow with domestic(US) cattle?
TimH said:Sandhusker said:Big Muddy rancher said:Like I said R-CALF says it supports Creekstone but Creekstone wanted to bring in Canadian cattle. How do we make it any plainer Sandy?
So does R-CALF support importing of Canadian cattle or not? If not I guess they don't really support Creekstone. Guess the rest of the R-CALFers are waiting to see what Leo wants them to say.
Guys, how can I make it any simpler? R-CALF supported Creekstone's original plan to test domestic cattle to meet a customers demands. That's it. Plain and simple and easy to understand.
You guys are trying to parlay that into a blanket approval of everything Creekstone wanted to do after being denied. That is not the case.
Has R-Calf withdrawn their support of Creekstones proposals, then?
Why did they(Creekstone) propose importing CDN cattle to "generate cash flow"? Why couldn't they generate cash flow with domestic(US) cattle?
TimH said:Oldtimer- "At the time prices were not very good in Canada-- If you could get the product for 1/2 the price, why not .........But then that would have competed with the screw job Cargil and Tyson was giving the Canadians- so they told the USDA to say NO......."
:shock: OT, are you saying that it is OK with R-Calf for Creekstone to import "cheap Canadian cattle" ?
TimH said:Oldtimer- "......And I doubt that R-CALF would or does support the importing of Canadian cattle...."
You "doubt"????? :shock: Do you mean you to tell me you are not sure of R-Calf's position on CDN imports??? :???: Especially "1/2 price" imports??? :???:
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