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-----Original Message-----
From: R-CALF USA [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:19 PM
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: Suspect Sample Tests Positive for BSE
Importance: High


R-CALF United Stockgrowers of America


For Immediate Release Contact: Shae Dodson, Communications Coordinator
June 24, 2005 Phone: 406-672-8969; e-mail: [email protected]



Suspect Sample Tests Positive for BSE


(Billings, Mont.) - After two weeks of uncertainty awaiting test results on brain tissue from a cow originally declared free of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) in November 2004, and then declared a 'weak positive,' by the agency on June 10, U.S. cattle producers today learned that the animal in question was indeed afflicted by BSE. USDA gave no indication as to whether the infected cow was another imported animal or if it was a domestic animal. USDA said an investigation into the origin of the animal is ongoing.



For reasons still unknown, USDA's Inspector General recently requested tissue samples from all three of last year's questionable cows - samples the agency first announced as 'inconclusive,' and then negative for BSE - be retested. In a news conference this afternoon, USDA officials announced that tests conducted at The Veterinary Laboratories Agency in Weybridge, England, confirmed the BSE-positive results. A recent statement issued by OIG said its investigation into USDA's BSE Surveillance Program will continue, and that a final audit report should be complete by late summer.



"U.S. cattle producers have always done everything possible to make certain their beef is safe, and in the early 1990s, significant and stringent control measures were implemented across the industry to provide safeguards against BSE, should the disease ever be introduced into the domestic cattle herd," said R-CALF USA President and Co-Founder Leo McDonnell. "However, these same producers also look to USDA, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to prevent BSE from infecting domestic cattle or posing a risk to consumers."



After today's announcement, R-CALF USA calls on the Bush Administration and Congress to direct these agencies to adopt and enforce additional BSE safeguards including: 1) increased BSE testing; 2) allowing packers the option to voluntarily test for BSE if they choose; 3) strengthening the U.S. feed ban to prohibit the use of blood, poultry litter, and plate waste in feed, as well as prevention of cross-contamination and misfeeding; 4) a continuation of the ban on downer animals; and, 5) continued import restrictions on BSE-affected countries.



"Science says we need to strengthen these protections, and frankly, it's just common sense, so let's take these precautions so that we can continue protecting consumers and our cattle herd," said McDonnell.



"The BSE safeguards already in place here in the U.S. are more stringent than measures any other country has ever implemented prior to having a case of BSE, including Canada," said McDonnell. "Yet, USDA continues to seek to lower our import standards by writing a Final Rule that would allow cattle and additional beef products into the U.S. from Canada, a country that doesn't meet the minimum internationally accepted standards for BSE prevention and control."



Listed below is a comparison of both countries' reaction to BSE, which clearly demonstrates the United States responded much quicker than Canada to implement protections against the disease:



· The U.S. made BSE a reportable disease three years before Canada designated the disease.

· In 1989, the U.S. began prohibiting the importation of ruminants from the United Kingdom (U.K.) because of the BSE crisis there; Canada continued to import ruminants in 1990.

· The U.S. implemented its BSE surveillance program in 1990; Canada did not begin its surveillance program until 1992.

· Canada discovered its first BSE case in 1993, in a cow imported from the U.K. Canada likely rendered 68 cattle imported from the U.K. prior to discovering its first case of BSE. Ten of those cattle were known to originate from BSE-affected farms in the U.K., two of which were known herdmates of the BSE-positive cow discovered in 1993.

· The Harvard Center for Risk Analysis stated that while the U.S. may have rendered 173 cattle imported from the U.K. prior to 1989, "none came from a birth cohort (same birth farm and year) in which a BSE case is known to have developed."

· As of May 31, 2005, the U.S. had tested a total of 433,183 cattle in the population considered to be of highest risk for BSE, and no cases had been found in the domestic cattle herd; Canada has tested only 64,788 cattle in the population considered to be of highest risk for BSE, and four BSE-positive cows have been detected in its domestic herd.

· In 2004, prompted by the Dec. 23, 2003, discovery in Washington state of a BSE-positive cow imported from Canada, the U.S. increased its BSE testing from 20,543 cattle to more than 176,400 animals; in 1994, one year after Canada discovered an imported cow with BSE, Canada decreased its BSE testing from 645 cattle to 426 cattle.

· Even though Canada and the U.S. both implemented feed bans in August 1997, the U.S. had its feed ban in place for more than five years prior to the December 2003 BSE case in a cow imported from Canada; Canada's feed ban, however, was not implemented until almost four years after it discovered BSE in an imported cow.

· Canada has had four cases of BSE in native cattle in the past two years, two of which were announced only days apart, just a few months ago. Of significant concern is the fact that Canada still allows 'downer' cattle into its domestic food supply.



"Just the fact that Canada has had four cases of BSE in native cattle in the past two years suggests the prevalence rate of the disease is higher in Canada than in the United States," noted McDonnell. "All four Canadian BSE cases came from Alberta - the primary source of Canadian exports of cattle and beef to the United States, which suggests there likely are more BSE-infected cattle in Alberta that could be sent to the U.S. if USDA lifts the ban on Canadian imports.



"U.S. beef is still the safest and most wholesome in the world, but if we want other countries to buy our beef, we must demonstrate that we have the appropriate BSE protections in place by raising standards, not lowering them," McDonnell said. "And if other countries want us to buy their beef, they must do the same."

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R-CALF USA (Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund, United Stockgrowers of America) represents thousands of U.S. cattle producers on domestic and international trade and marketing issues. R-CALF USA, a national, non-profit organization, is dedicated to ensuring the continued profitability and viability of the U.S. cattle industry. R-CALF USA's membership consists primarily of cow-calf operators, cattle backgrounders, and feedlot owners. Its members - over 18,000 strong - are located in 47 states, and the organization has over 60 local and state association affiliates, from both cattle and farm organizations. Various main street businesses are associate members of R-CALF USA. For more information, visit www.r-calfusa.com or, call 406-252-2516.
 

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Haymaker, if you haven't figured this out by now. Just because Leo says its so, doesn't necessarily make it true. This is just another one of those articles where one can play 'Find the errors'. Good Luck.
 

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· Even though Canada and the U.S. both implemented feed bans in August 1997, the U.S. had its feed ban in place for more than five years prior to the December 2003 BSE case in a cow imported from Canada; Canada's feed ban, however, was not implemented until almost four years after it discovered BSE in an imported cow.
Only an R-Calfer would think that makes sense.


· The Harvard Center for Risk Analysis stated that while the U.S. may have rendered 173 cattle imported from the U.K. prior to 1989, "none came from a birth cohort (same birth farm
and year) in which a BSE case is known to have developed."

Or they may have rendered 254 cattle imported from the UK, some of which did come from a birth cohort farm. Looks like the Harvard Risk Centre may not be too sure about it.


· Canada has had four cases of BSE in native cattle in the past two years, two of which were announced only days apart, just a few months ago. Of significant concern is the fact that Canada still allows 'downer' cattle into its domestic food supply.

That is a significant lie and typical of the bs that the feeble minded like to lap up. Funny how CNN keeps calling this the 2nd US case of BSE. They must not get the R-Calf releases.

Keep it up Leo. I can't wait to see you in the middle of the media frenzy at the upcoming court dates.......good luck.
 
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· Even though Canada and the U.S. both implemented feed bans in August 1997, the U.S. had its feed ban in place for more than five years prior to the December 2003 BSE case in a cow imported from Canada; Canada's feed ban, however, was not implemented until almost four years after it discovered BSE in an imported cow.
Only an R-Calfer would think that makes sense.


· The Harvard Center for Risk Analysis stated that while the U.S. may have rendered 173 cattle imported from the U.K. prior to 1989, "none came from a birth cohort (same birth farm
and year) in which a BSE case is known to have developed."

Or they may have rendered 254 cattle imported from the UK, some of which did come from a birth cohort farm. Looks like the Harvard Risk Centre may not be too sure about it.


· Canada has had four cases of BSE in native cattle in the past two years, two of which were announced only days apart, just a few months ago. Of significant concern is the fact that Canada still allows 'downer' cattle into its domestic food supply.

That is a significant lie and typical of the bs that the feeble minded like to lap up. Funny how CNN keeps calling this the 2nd US case of BSE. They must not get the R-Calf releases.

Keep it up Leo. I can't wait to see you in the middle of the media frenzy at the upcoming court dates.......good luck.

But BSE cases have been still showing up in Canada-- And the last was born after the "supposed" Canadian feed ban went into effect :roll: 4 Positive cows in a country that has less tha 5% as many cattle as the US :roll: :roll: -- Time to test a whole bunch more cows on both sides of the border before changing any import rules- Get a system in place that shows the true spread of the disease and guarantees that all firewalls are in place before looking at importing from statistically higher risk countries...... USDA needs to remember the main reason they exist- to protect the US consumer and the US cattle industry.......
 

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But BSE cases have been still showing up in Canada
and now there are just coming to light in the US so what. Just proves we are testing and 4 cases in over two years is still well within the minimal risk catagory according to the OIE.

in a country that has less tha 5% as many cattle as the US
Why is it that Canada's herd size keeps changing when an R-CALFer need to make a point. Could you please explain your math Oldtimer?

guarantees that all firewalls are in place before looking at importing from statistically higher risk countries......

Again Oldtimer if you firewalls can't protect you from imported cattle what is protecting your consumers from the now domestic cases that will be showing up. :?
 
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in a country that has less tha 5% as many cattle as the US
Why is it that Canada's herd size keeps changing when an R-CALFer need to make a point. Could you please explain your math Oldtimer?

Tam- please inform me to how many there are-- We know the cattle herd has increased greatly since NAFTA and the Canadians decided to jump on the US producers shirttails-- NCBA's barstool study team said there wasn't any herd buildup or glut- but then if you talk to actual Canadian ranchers or read the Canadian posts and articles they are stumbling all over themselves dying of old age, or starvation because farmers can't afford to feed them, or being retained because of the Canadian subsidy program...

Kind of like your testing program- who and what do you believe??--where according to you and official reports all 4-D's are being reported and tested, but when you watch the posts and talk to the real people involved they tell you its the 3 S's or coyote food- no one wants to be caught with the next positive test....
 

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Oldtimer said:
Kind of like your testing program- who and what do you believe??--,

Speaking of testing systems Is,nt the U.S back at square one as far as testing Ot.As your test failed in Nov.

Good luck Ot
 
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Oldtimer said:
Kind of like your testing program- who and what do you believe??--,

Speaking of testing systems Is,nt the U.S back at square one as far as testing Ot.As your test failed in Nov.

Good luck Ot

frenchie- you may right- It not only attacks the credibility of the testing program, but the entire policy of the USDA-- which includes the proposed border opening rule... If the testing program is not adequate how can anyone be assured that the rest of USDA's assumptions and policy are??

Could become a major influence in the upcoming court case... Remember R-CALF did not sue Canada closing the border- they sued USDA questioning the USDA's soundness of their border analysis and re-opening policy- This brings into question and reduces the credibility of everything USDA has done for the last few years- along with OIE- whose approved tests and testing procedure is shown as being defective- is their approved SRM removal and feed restrictions adequate or is it also defective?........Raises a whole lot more questions and grey areas then it answers....
 

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Face it Old Timer your R-Calf group of clowns stood locked arm in arm with anti-beef groups to defame Canada and it's beef in a publicity stunt to try and keep Canadian beef out of the US. As late as yesterdays R-Calf release, Leo is still lying about Canadian beef in a desperate attempt to somehow make the US system look superior.

Many from both countries have been telling you for some time that it will blow up in your face and now you may just get the media exposure you so desperately seek. CBC has been granted access to carry the appeal court proceedings on National TV and no doubt there will be interest within the US. R-Calf has said that BSE is a huge human health risk all along and it will be interesting to see Leo on that unicycle backpedalling while the convoy of press chase him down. It looks like he didn't jump ship quite quick enough. Let's hope that NCBA and the checkoff can staighten out this mess and save US consumer confidence in our product.
 

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OT, you are correct in that this last ordeal might just raise the awareness about what can you believe from those making the rules. This morning on Market To Market, Sue Martin was saying she believed this might help the R-Calf side of the argument.
 

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feeder said:
OT, you are correct in that this last ordeal might just raise the awareness about what can you believe from those making the rules. This morning on Market To Market, Sue Martin was saying she believed this might help the R-Calf side of the argument.


feeder,without a doubt,this will help R CALF's case. I just wish we could get all the facts out,but the way the AMI have got them selves entrenched in the USDA makes it impossible...............good luck
 

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Oldtimer said:
frenchie said:
Oldtimer said:
Kind of like your testing program- who and what do you believe??--,

Speaking of testing systems Is,nt the U.S back at square one as far as testing Ot.As your test failed in Nov.

Good luck Ot

frenchie- you may right- It not only attacks the credibility of the testing program,

what testing program ? yours ....its a joke
 

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...is it not interesting how many cows you have had tested off your ranches for bse...old timer...I would bet it is zero...all the ranchers up here around me have had at least 1% of our herd or more of their older cows tested...the fact is we have been honest about what we had tested and you r-calfer's laughed in our faces...


...for one I hope your prices stay up but why not for once show some leadership and prove to to us how much you really want to prove yourself how clean your herd is...
 
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blackjack- USDA is running ads on the radio (and has been for the last month) thanking us for all our cooperation and how well we have all came forward to assist in the testing procedure- which they claim was a complete success- and will now be continued at a reduced rate....

USDA says we did great- are you questioning the word of USDA? :???: :lol:

And blackjack I haven't had any 4D's to test- sell them long before they get in that state......Unless I do like some of the Canadian "entrepreneurs" are doing-- buy old cheap cows- starve them until they are staggering weak and look like they qualify for the 4D program, find a crooked vet, kill them and collect on the government subsidy money :cry: .... No thank you-- And we haven't had to get government 4D subsidy payments for monitoring our herd health :) ......
 

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...guess my misstake ... I guess all you ranchers down there never get an older cow in your herd...I am starting to understand why you guys never make any money from your cattle...guess I have been doing it all wrong...should have sold all those cows before the age of seven...

...as for your generalization statements...99.9% of ranchers care for there animals more than humans care for each other...it is really hard to beleive anything you write
 

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Oldtimer said:
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in a country that has less tha 5% as many cattle as the US
Why is it that Canada's herd size keeps changing when an R-CALFer need to make a point. Could you please explain your math Oldtimer?

Tam- please inform me to how many there are-- We know the cattle herd has increased greatly since NAFTA and the Canadians decided to jump on the US producers shirttails-- NCBA's barstool study team said there wasn't any herd buildup or glut- but then if you talk to actual Canadian ranchers or read the Canadian posts and articles they are stumbling all over themselves dying of old age, or starvation because farmers can't afford to feed them, or being retained because of the Canadian subsidy program...

Kind of like your testing program- who and what do you believe??--where according to you and official reports all 4-D's are being reported and tested, but when you watch the posts and talk to the real people involved they tell you its the 3 S's or coyote food- no one wants to be caught with the next positive test....

Come on Oldtimer math in the R-CALF camp in not a strong subject but you can't really think the Canadian herd is less than 5% the size. The US claims to have a 98 to 100 million head herd that would make according to you Canada's herd less than 5 million. You claim we had 4 positives in a herd less than 5% the size but If we test over 30,000 and it looks like maybe 60,000 by years end in a herd that you say is less than 5 million then what should the US be testing in a herd that is 20 times the size. See the number are different in that equation aren't they. R-CALF claims the US test a higher percentage than Canada and have been all along. Which the true numbers prove to be a damn lie but according to you the US should have 20 times as many and they never even tested 7 times as many. I know R-CALFer round up and down numbers to suit the argument but to round down by over 10 million Oldtimer to make your story better is just to much.
And Oldtimer I never said all 4 D are tested in Canada and I never said all ranchers turn their 4D over in Canada what I said was all of what Canada test are 4D's and we have enough ranchers turning over their 4D's to test more than enough to hit our quota and should double our quota by years end and the CFIA are not having to go to slaughter house to get samples. Which is something you can not say about the US Can you?
 
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blackjack- When old cows are bringing $700-800 you take extra steps to watch for anything showing a little age- and put the bucks in your pocket before she goes down hill too much....This time of year around here you often don't find anything dead that isn't just bones and hide when you find it....We found two heifers dead up the creek last month on top of the hill by a fenceline- but didn't take any vet to tell what killed them- fresh enough you could still see the lightning marks on them.....

As far as the ranchers and the care of their animals, I'm sure you are right- probably less than your .1% involved in the starvation for money process- but that is the story that hit all the papers when they found the stacks of dead cows and cast a grey shadow over all Canadian ranchers- and the 4D subsidy program.....Unethical people on both sides of the border....
 

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