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Ranchers Worst Enemy Himself

Big Muddy-- you better go out and start nailing things down or they'll all be in Kato's or Manitoba Ranchers backyard...The weather boys are predicting 70 mph winds tomorrow :shock:
 
Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy-- you better go out and start nailing things down or they'll all be in Kato's or Manitoba Ranchers backyard...The weather boys are predicting 70 mph winds tomorrow :shock:
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You just can't help yourself can you OT . Diverting again. :wink:


UG , did I ever tell you I hate wind. just what we needed. Looks like the hay hauling could be put off.
 
RoperAB said:
Here is a question for everybody.
So if I go out and buy a bunch of land, buy a bunch of cows and then loose money at it, should the government step in and regulate the packers so they have to give me more money so that I can make a go of it?
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No. The government should not even be part of the equation. Let supply and demand play out without government interference.

RoperAB said:
What about the horse industry. Is this different than the beef industry? Say if I go out and buy a bunch of land and breeding stock. Then I haul my yearlings to the horse auction and loose money on every horse I sell. Should the government move in and regulate the price of what horses should sell for so that I can make a profit?
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No again. Another thing the government shouldn't do is to outlaw the slaughter of horses. It is very much necessary in the disposal of thousands of unusable horses, and the meat and other by products just as well be utilized as to just throw it away. Unusable horses just as well have salvage value to the owner, instead of the owner having to pay to have the horse disposed of. Once again, let the fundamentals of supply and demand prevail. If someone wants to buy old or renegade horses, and someone else has them for sale, the potential buyer and the potential seller should be able to negotiate sale of the animal without the "government" telling them they can't.
 
RoperAB said:
Look at horses, people bench about what horses are selling for at the auction mart. I dont give a crap what horses sell at the auction mart because im never going to sell a horse at an auction mart. I market my own product.
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You might never darken the doors of a horse auction yourself, but I guarantee the results of what horses bring at auction influence the price that you receive from a horse with a private sale. It is the same way with cattle. Many ranchers sell their cattle privately, but the buyer and seller both know what cattle of that weight and quality are bringing at the local auction barn. They base their transaction accordingly.
 
...i totally understand what you are saying roper...and i assume your a younger fellow ...now if you were like the majority of ranch owners that own most the land... most are in their sixties and probably are not interested in expansion any more ...some are selling the quarters to non farmers...others to farmers that subsidize the land with the base they own already ... i do feel your passion for wanting to ranch without all the outside industries or people intruding but like i said earlier its about the money and maybe always was...just seems our society doesn't really seem to give a rat's butt about agriculture anymore...with the politicians inept view ...do not look forward to things getting better in the short term...so roper you would be right if your a 20 something wanting to start a farm here in alberta...some here in alberta say you would need 2 million to run a viable ranch these days...kinda limits the playing field...
 

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