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Ridley Agrees to Settlement in Canadian BSE Lawsuit

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rkaiser said:
Some info from a pal o mine for you Manitoba; and anyone else interested.

Also just so you know, the press got a few things wrong as usual. Nobody has to 'sign up' to join the BSE class actions. The way it works in Ontario and Quebec is that you are in until and unless you actively decide to be out, and let us know that you want out in writing. Given that the Western cattle producers will be folded into the Ontario class if the settlement is approved, this is a very good thing indeed. All a cattle producer will have to do to be qualified to receive a cheque at the end of the day if we win is absolutely nothing. Yup, they can sit on their hands throughout the whole mess and still get a cheque at the end of the day. Absolutely no risk, no investment of time or money, and the potential of a big reward. You gotta like that. Of course, we have to win first. Seriously uphill battle considering the fellow on the other side is the government of Canada, but we are up for it.
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Come on Randy, you're smarter than this! If this thing goes all the way through the process, the check producers get from this will be no bigger than the checks you have already gotten from your government. The only ones that will get rich are the lawyers on BOTH sides!!!!!!

MBM, as a spreader of BSE, is at best a weak theory...forget the government scientific mumbo jumbo(and all of the forum clogging cut and paste from flounder) and look at the real world. If it were the truth, any country that imported any substantial amount of MBM from England before their realization of the magnitude of their BSE problem, would have had the same kind of substantial out-break of BSE. Didn't happen!
 
No disagreement RobertMac ---- but. The MBM theory is accepted and even promoted by both of our governments and our pathetic beef industry groups (NCBA and CCA). If the government of Canada chooses to jump off the MBM transmission train and admits that my personal hero Mark Purdey is right - I win a moral and ethical victory. If they stick to their guns - and this ten billion dollar lawsuit puts something --- anything ---- in to the pockets of producers victory is also ours. Win Win as I see it.

To me this in a no brainer to support. No up front cash and now a slush fund for the lawyers to use...... Why not Robert Mac?

Don't worry about old Kaiser falling prey to the flounders of the world. Somehow Terry can be used in all of this. I support testing, and support making the government accountable -- but do not believe --- and never will believe that a misfolded prion passing through the digestive system of an unfortunate host is the cause of spreading BSE. Broken down problematic prions sending rouge metals to the next host for possible contamination through feed ----- maybe. But who really cares when 6 million has our feds shaking in their boots.

I know a lead lawyer on this case personally and can honestly say I feel his head is screwed on kinda straight. :wink:

Keep thinking and using every opportunity that presents itself without getting bogged down in tunnel vision. Yip Terry that one is for you --- and Oldtimer --- and Sandhusker and anyone else who simply wants to blame and ignore possibilities.

Terry could help save more lives if he looked outside of his box and the Rcalf clan could put some actual dollars in producers pockets if they were not so stuck on their BSE cherry picking.

No Robert --- Kaiser is not sleeping, but I am afraid that a lot on this site are.......
 
Not to throw a monkey wrench in the works, but to the best of my knowledge, every single case in Canada has a link to one particular rendering plant. The fact that it's an Alberta plant explains the Alberta connection that is so common.

That looks to me that the transmission theory has credibility.

That's not to say that there isn't more than one way to create the problem. After all, the first case started somehow....... :shock: :shock: Maybe both theories are right.
 
Kaiser, "Terry could help save more lives if he looked outside of his box and the Rcalf clan could put some actual dollars in producers pockets if they were not so stuck on their BSE cherry picking."

What's to cherry pick? The USDA (and common sense) admits they will be bringing in BSE positive cases and the OIE (and common sense) says it will spread. What kind of responsible producer is not going to holler "Whoa" on that deal?

You remember those connect-the-dots pictures we did as a kid? This one is easy - only two dots to connect and the picture is a broke US producer.
 
The only dots to connect sandhusker are the ones on each of your ears. Lots of space to draw a line between them.
You have BSE too buddy --- get it. Passing a cold to someone with a cold already doesn't result in any more than a cold..........
 
rkaiser said:
The only dots to connect sandhusker are the ones on each of your ears. Lots of space to draw a line between them.
You have BSE too buddy --- get it. Passing a cold to someone with a cold already doesn't result in any more than a cold..........
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rkaiser said:
The only dots to connect sandhusker are the ones on each of your ears. Lots of space to draw a line between them.
You have BSE too buddy --- get it. Passing a cold to someone with a cold already doesn't result in any more than a cold..........
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As of today, the strain that you have isn't down here - we don't have the cold that you analogize. Even if we did, explain to me how you can eradicate it if you're importing it? I've asked that question probably 50 times now and it just gets ignored.

Another thing that makes no sense; Why did Canada even bother tightening up your feed ban? You're sending it down here, it spreads, and then since you're all in favor of an open border and Free Trade, we ship contaminated beef back up there and Canadians end up eating BSE infected beef anyway.

And another thing.... We get told that the US has to have what Canada has because of 100 years of trade, but then Ripley gets wrung up for causing the problem just recently. Now, if there is any truth to Ripley, the last 100 years doesn't make a bit of difference because the problem was created just a few years ago. Therefore, it is certainly no given that the US has what you have.
 
And another thing ---- Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.

Jesus Christmas Sandhusker do you think I will ever listen to your crap.

Go dig up some of those shot and shoveled cows of yours. The misfolded prion will last for years under ground ya know.
 
rkaiser said:
And another thing ---- Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.

Jesus Christmas Sandhusker do you think I will ever listen to your crap.

Go dig up some of those shot and shoveled cows of yours. The misfolded prion will last for years under ground ya know.
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Show me where I'm wrong.
 
sh: As of today, the strain that you have isn't down here

so where's the risk? guess we're not shipping it down if you're not finding it.

sh: You're sending it down here, it spreads,

so why aren't you finding it? if it's there and spreading show the evidence. the usual sandhusker argument - doesn't make sense.
 
don said:
sh: As of today, the strain that you have isn't down here

so where's the risk? guess we're not shipping it down if you're not finding it.

sh: You're sending it down here, it spreads,

so why aren't you finding it? if it's there and spreading show the evidence. the usual sandhusker argument - doesn't make sense.
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How many Canadian cattle do you think the USDA tested today, don? How many this week, this month? You know dang well they're not looking for it. How are they going to find it? Do you think a cow is going to step forward and ask for a Vet?

If you've got to dummy up to try to make a point and ignore material facts, you ought to reexamine your position.
 
i just have to dummy up to converse with you. lmao. i know they're not testing. maybe you haven't read this board before. you like usda's numbers for atypical bse but you don't want to believe their numbers otherwise. you lost your credibility years ago.
 
don said:
i just have to dummy up to converse with you. lmao. i know they're not testing. maybe you haven't read this board before. you like usda's numbers for atypical bse but you don't want to believe their numbers otherwise. you lost your credibility years ago.
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If you know they're not testing, how can you make a point based on the results of the testing program - that isn't happening? And you say my arguements don't make sense?

Once again, don, the USDA has been your biggest champion. They've changed policy, weakened rules, stretched the truth and even lied to get your beef and cattle into this country - and even they say they could be bringing in over 100 BSE positive cases from you. The OIE, who all of you claim is the authority that has to be followed says our feed ban isn't good enough to stop the spread of BSE. Now, before you critizise anybody who is trying to protect their business and family, you tell me who is wrong, the USDA or the OIE.
 
don said:
i guess you don't recognize irony when you read it. get the blinders off.
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Now, before you critizise anybody who is trying to protect their business and family, you tell me who is wrong, the USDA or the OIE.
 
SH all you have to do is find 1 positive, with cull cows at such low prices r-calf could buy a few pot loads kill'em and pull samples find one and dispute over. DO it or is it that you know you won't find one. Be proactive. Allegations are one thing, prove it and that is a different story. So either come on here every day whine and cry or get off your butt and get it done. I have a funny feeling this site will keep on seeing your posts for some time. Or are you going to tell me that you could not hire a lab on this planet to test for BSE :roll:
 
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SH all you have to do is find 1 positive, with cull cows at such low prices r-calf could buy a few pot loads kill'em and pull samples find one and dispute over. DO it or is it that you know you won't find one. Be proactive. Allegations are one thing, prove it and that is a different story. So either come on here every day whine and cry or get off your butt and get it done. I have a funny feeling this site will keep on seeing your posts for some time. Or are you going to tell me that you could not hire a lab on this planet to test for BSE :roll:
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Another one of those dumb ones- that gets lots of laughs- like SH was talking about... :roll:

How do you test- when your government won't allow "private testing"? :???:
 
QUESTION said:
SH all you have to do is find 1 positive, with cull cows at such low prices r-calf could buy a few pot loads kill'em and pull samples find one and dispute over. DO it or is it that you know you won't find one. Be proactive. Allegations are one thing, prove it and that is a different story. So either come on here every day whine and cry or get off your butt and get it done. I have a funny feeling this site will keep on seeing your posts for some time. Or are you going to tell me that you could not hire a lab on this planet to test for BSE :roll:
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Explain to me how R-CALF, or any other private entity, can test for BSE.
 
OT - Read the entire post :dunce: Or is it illegal to send a sample to another country to to a lab get tested?????? :roll:
Sh there are labs in other countries other than the US and Canada that will test for BSE. But maybe you need an explaination - you contact every lab in the world that does BSE testing and find out which ones will do a BSE test (probably western blot test) and the fees charged for testing, check the r-calf bank account so they can afford it, then buy a few pot loads of old canadian culls, kill them collect brain samples then in send in samples to the labs for testing with payment for testing and wait for test results. What is so hard about that. :roll:
 
nothing tough about it except sandhusker's better at talking than walking. should be easy - remember twenty-six times as many up here.
 

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