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SALORN CATTLE

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anybody have them or even heard of them.if so what was your experiences with them.i know they are a saler x longhorn. last spring i sold a piedmontese bull to a guy that was gonna x them with longhorn.b interesting to c them calves.
 
Guy around here tried it once. ONCE. Turned out as he feared - not only were they tough and hardy, but they could leap small buildings and tall fences in a single bound, go from thin to fat in over 3 years and 0-60 when you tried to work them.

Like the piedmontese and highlands, there is a reason they aren't everywhere. They only work in certain circumstances and markets.
 
We've ended up with the occasional Saler feeder. I agree. They can leap tall buildings, and are faster than a speeding locomotive. In fact we had one come back for revenge once when we let it out of the headgate.

I can only imagine what they can do with a top notch set of horns. :shock: :shock:
 
Anybob,

The Salorn was Jan Bonsma's idea. Unfortunately I don't think he had much experience with either the Saler or the Longhorn Breeds.
That brings upa question if you had to make a composite breed with the Longhorn what would you use?
 
VLS_GUY said:
Anybob,

The Salorn was Jan Bonsma's idea. Unfortunately I don't think he had much experience with either the Saler or the Longhorn Breeds.
That brings upa question if you had to make a composite breed with the Longhorn what would you use?
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2 good rope horses. :wink:
 
gcreekrch said:
VLS_GUY said:
Anybob,

The Salorn was Jan Bonsma's idea. Unfortunately I don't think he had much experience with either the Saler or the Longhorn Breeds.
That brings upa question if you had to make a composite breed with the Longhorn what would you use?
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2 good rope horses. :wink:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
gcreekrch said:
VLS_GUY said:
Anybob,

The Salorn was Jan Bonsma's idea. Unfortunately I don't think he had much experience with either the Saler or the Longhorn Breeds.
That brings upa question if you had to make a composite breed with the Longhorn what would you use?
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2 good rope horses. :wink:
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Don't forget the knife. :wink: :wink:
 
I bought a load of replacement heifers one time and they slipped about a half dozen salers on with them as cattle buyers like to do. I wasn't to happy at first but I ended up with 5 of the better cows I have ever owned. Best cows on the load. Perfect udders, lots of capacity,and very quiet. Whoever bred them did a real good job. My only complaint is the have a very strong horn gene.
I keep all the heifers I can off them.
 
greybeard said:
I bought a load of replacement heifers one time and they slipped about a half dozen salers on with them as cattle buyers like to do. I wasn't to happy at first but I ended up with 5 of the better cows I have ever owned. Best cows on the load. Perfect udders, lots of capacity,and very quiet. Whoever bred them did a real good job. My only complaint is the have a very strong horn gene.
I keep all the heifers I can off them.
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i love my salers.they milk a ton but there bag is never saggy and they all have good teat placement.best legs of any breed n my opinion.we had 1 heifer this past year that ended up with horns and we got her cut early so not a big deal.my salers take care of themselves better than any other cows i got.plan to add more when the $$ drops a bit.
 
VLS_GUY said:
Anybob,

The Salorn was Jan Bonsma's idea. Unfortunately I don't think he had much experience with either the Saler or the Longhorn Breeds.
That brings up a question if you had to make a composite breed with the Longhorn what would you use?
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Firstly, I think it is a pity improved strains were not developed in the early 1900's when there was a large population, developing breeds similar to those developed from the African Sanga cattle, those shown by Ryan on CT show there is a potential to develop better conformed strains.
An ideal composite needs to be developed using a breed or breeds which would bring solid colouring for marketing reasons, and polling as many ranchers are not keen on horned stock.
For a single cross composite, the Red Poll would give good results, I am keen on the Sussex for southern states, but while they are solid coloured, well conformed, good walkers and the most heat tolerant of the British breeds, they are horned. I was looking into buying some Longhorn cows around the time I had to leave the USA, to see how they crossed with my Tuli bulls, and then cross the F1 females to British breeds, ans asses the F2 generation.
 
Thanks for that comment, Shortgrass! You reinforced my intuitive thought that would be the case. But I'm not certain why, except that we have used both Longhorn and Salers.

Longhorn bulls on hiefers back when we were transitioning from Limousin when ours got too big, and not sure how long we tried the Salers. First one was not very expensive because he got pretty excited in the sale ring. When auctioneer questioned why we would want him, and pointing out that we didn't have to take him, as the 'performance' came after the bid was taken, my spouse stated: "he isn't the first guy that lost control when he came to town the first time!" I believe they got a little too tall for us, and maybe didn't mix as well as we had hoped with our other breeds at the time. We like a smaller, thrifty cow that can wean a pretty heavy stretchy calf with good rib eye area, without being pampered, and feel like we are getting there.

mrj
 

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