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Some fencing, some windmilling, and a tractor

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redbrand

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A sturdily anchored box corner

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Another one

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Sheep proof

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Another fence job

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A screw type anchor makes for a sturdy jog in the line

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My faithful assistant

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Time for a drink

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The view from the top

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A couple "helpers"

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An old hand dug well

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Hauled this IHC F-14 home for a favorite cousin

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Luxurious amenities for the comfort of the operator :wink:
 
Interesting pictures.

On the 2nd picture: Why do you make a W in the brace with wire? I don't know what to call it where the wires comes in through the red do hickies and up and around the middle post so W came to mind.
 
Nice fencing,we usually make an X on our h braces,i really like seeing that hand dug well and those old farmall tractors.What's the thing on the front used for :???: Post pounder?Thanks for sharing.
 
Frisco said:
Interesting pictures.

On the 2nd picture: Why do you make a W in the brace with wire? I don't know what to call it where the wires comes in through the red do hickies and up and around the middle post so W came to mind.
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It is sort of a confounding mess of wire, isn't it? When I was first introduced to this concept in a spec sheet for a gov't. watershed fence project, I dismissed it as a waste of material and effort, and the product of hare-brained gov't. engineers :roll: . I hope I can explain it in a way that makes sense :???: .

First, the red things are screw-type anchors 48" long with a 5" "auger" plate at the bottom. In the clay-based soils around here, they tend to be quite solid. To simplify what all that wire does, try to look at that corner brace assembly as two separate single braces. The one wire that runs from the top of the "brace" post to the bottom of the "corner" post is still the main brace wire. The shorter one from the anchor to the top of the corner post keeps it from "jacking" up under the pressure. The longer piece running up from the anchor to the brace post acts as an auxiliary brace wire. When each of these is tensioned evenly, they work together to create a very solid brace, especially for 45 degree turns like the one in the picture. Those non-right angle corners are particularly troublesome because the corner post eventually leans "into" the corner under the strain of the two directions of pull. This system has eliminated that problem anyway :-) .

I don't always use the anchors--some customers want them and others think they're a waste. For one customer, I have done some of his fences with them and others without. Just recently, I compared the difference and the fences put in nearly 5 years ago with anchored braces are still fiddle string tight, while the ones without anchors have slacked a little over time. Other custom fence builders in this area anchor every brace this way...no matter how short the length of fence.
 
Blkbuckaroo said:
Nice fencing,we usually make an X on our h braces,i really like seeing that hand dug well and those old farmall tractors.What's the thing on the front used for :???: Post pounder?Thanks for sharing.
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Good guess! That is indeed a post driver on the front of that sporty little unit :wink: . Doing lots of custom fencing and working alone, it's a godsend. Usually, the only holes dug are pilot holes for the long brace posts--easier to "situate" them for fitting the brace, and provides a head start for driving them quicker. Rocky ground and crooked hedge posts are about the only exception to my rule :-) .

Speaking of exceptions to rules, my whole family tends to be fond of IHC, but I do keep a JD 630 in the herd. Keeps me on the good side of the JD fans!
 
First, the red things are screw-type anchors 48" long with a 5" "auger" plate at the bottom. In the clay-based soils around here, they tend to be quite solid. To simplify what all that wire does, try to look at that corner brace assembly as two separate single braces. The one wire that runs from the top of the "brace" post to the bottom of the "corner" post is still the main brace wire. The shorter one from the anchor to the top of the corner post keeps it from "jacking" up under the pressure. The longer piece running up from the anchor to the brace post acts as an auxiliary brace wire. When each of these is tensioned evenly, they work together to create a very solid brace, especially for 45 degree turns like the one in the picture. Those non-right angle corners are particularly troublesome because the corner post eventually leans "into" the corner under the strain of the two directions of pull. This system has eliminated that problem anyway .

Thanks, Redbrand, I learned something. I have to move some fence to and I have been racking my brain about the corners (non-right) and keeping the fence tight. Hmmm.
 
Great pictures! :D I get to go build some fence pretty soon and it's good to see how others do it! I love the windmill and old tractor pictures! Keep it up with the pictures from your area! Thanks! :wink:
 
If you feel like coming to NC, I've got about 5800' of fence I need put down---Da** you do a good job !!! :) :)
 
Triangle Bar said:
Whoa, those high angle photos are making me dizzy...great shots.

Ever try divin' off the windmill into the water tank below? I've seen it done on cartoons. :wink: :lol:
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Not on purpose, and not from very high --Thank goodness!
 
I need to try that with a corner I need to replace, it's in clay soil on a right angle. I did two floating braces and the corner post is pulling out into the corner. I tried an auger tie down on the outside with a tensioner, but it pulled the auger out.

All of our clay is marine clay, when the glaciers receded, the tides came in and deposited our clay. It can be anywhere from 4-200 ft thick depending where you are from here to the coast.

After doing a little research about a month ago on glaciers and surficial maps I got to thinking. About 15,000 years ago it was a huge sheet of ice here, what cause the global warming trend to melt that much ice?
 
Ben H said:
I need to try that with a corner I need to replace, it's in clay soil on a right angle. I did two floating braces and the corner post is pulling out into the corner. I tried an auger tie down on the outside with a tensioner, but it pulled the auger out.

All of our clay is marine clay, when the glaciers receded, the tides came in and deposited our clay. It can be anywhere from 4-200 ft thick depending where you are from here to the coast.

After doing a little research about a month ago on glaciers and surficial maps I got to thinking. About 15,000 years ago it was a huge sheet of ice here, what cause the global warming trend to melt that much ice?
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Hmmm....just a guess, but probably not SUV induced greenhouse gasses :lol: .

I usually use anchors with a 5" plate on them, but have installed the 6" version for added holding power. If you've had trouble with a "pull out," you might consider a bigger sized anchor plate than what you had. But because the pulling pressure is shared between two directions, the upward pressure on these in line anchors is somewhat minimized versus the direct pull on one on the outside corner. As an added benefit, there isn't anything outside of the fence line to catch to trip over or get tangled up in :wink: .
 
VB RANCH said:
How deep you plant them corners?
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They are nearly 4 ft. in the ground. When driven to until the post driver "bottoms out," the posts will be 50"-52" tall and 8 ft. posts are used for the braces.
 
Thanks for the nice pictures, redbrand. Looks like good stout fence corners, and your set-up on the tractor would sure come in handy. A person can see for a long ways from the top of a windmill. :wink:
 
talldog said:
If you feel like coming to NC, I've got about 5800' of fence I need put down---Da** you do a good job !!! :) :)
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Thank you talldog. NC is a bit out of my usual radius, but I'd be happy to provide moral support; I could "supervise" from my computer chair....does that pay very well? :cboy:
 

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