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Suicide watch

Several things....

For the most part, most Salers I have been around could be best described as Domesticated Elk....Yet, some of the best cows I own come from a Crossbred Saler Cow who was one of the sweetest dispositioned cows around.....

I also have a friend who went to work for a large Saler ranch around here. He also prefered to work cows by himself with just his dogs. Within a few years, the truck drivers were asking him what he had done...He asked what did they mean. They said they used to dread coming but since he took over these cattle loaded and hauled like a dream...

I know handling bramha cattle is way different than other breeds.....

I think sometimes it takes someone willling to take the time to put the handle on cattle. I once spent two and a half hours working with some put together pairs..There were runners and ones that yo could hardlyt get to move. I kept working to hold the runners while bringing up the others....Pretty soon I took them through a gate to some pretty lush grass....And after holding them while they ate, well...After that I could move them anywhere. They simply looked to see what I wanted....They learned it was easier that way...


BTW FH, it is something that those reds didn't 'Teach" yours to run...I see that a lot with hiefers I buy to feed..They raise thier tailhead, head out and prety soon there are 3 following that never acted that way, LOL,

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I AIed some herefords for a friend last year, those cattle were so gentle I was not sure if we needed a chute or not. If being docile is a factor for the feedlots then they should pay more for herefords.
 
ISU Imaging Q911 is a +15 and he was a prick, he calmed down eventually but he was nasty mean for quite a while.
 
While a breed is popular they ruin their selves. If breeders keep these crazy fools and perpetuate their genetics, especially seedstock breeders, you're doing a disservice to your breed. Salers , Limousines, Red Angus, Charolais, Herefords, and the ever popular Black Angus all have good and bad in all traits. It's the breeders job to try to eliminate bad traits and expand the good traits. If you don't take care of business, some other breed will take your place at the top. Ask the Salers, Limousines, Herefords, Charolais and Shorthorn, etc.
 
I've seen crazy cattle in pretty much most breeds. To me they are a lot like people, good and bad of all kinds. And how they are handled surely does help. Our neighbors keep thier cows at a lope everywhere they go. 4 wheelers blazing and dogs outa control. Those cows see a person and go into orbit. To each thier own I reckon! I'd sell those heifers if they are too wild. Life's to short to mess with mean cows, roosters and politicians! :wink:
 
Hanta Yo said:
Red Robin said:
Hanta Yo said:
So, RR, how are they doing now? Have they settled down some? :P
They have got a little better I hear. They come to the truck now at least Hanta. He says they're still pretty nasty though.

Well...you still have several months. Hope they settle down :) I'll keep asking :)
I need to find one of those moon suits to keep the manure off of me. I bet they lunge in the chute and blow it everywhere if they are as nervous as he says. :lol: Got to remember to keep my mouth closed. :wink:
 
Red Robin said:
Hanta Yo said:
Red Robin said:
They have got a little better I hear. They come to the truck now at least Hanta. He says they're still pretty nasty though.

Well...you still have several months. Hope they settle down :) I'll keep asking :)
I need to find one of those moon suits to keep the manure off of me. I bet they lunge in the chute and blow it everywhere if they are as nervous as he says. :lol: Got to remember to keep my mouth closed. :wink:

Reminds me of how I learned how to A.I....I took a course thru the college back in about 68-- and they brought a bunch of cattle in to practice on out of the Bear Paws off the Rocky Boy Reservation...Bunch of little 3-4 frame black baldies...I don't think these cattle had seen a man (Indian or Whiteman) since they'd been calves....They just had a long chute and would run 6-7 cows in-- you crawled in behind your cow and went to work on her while the one behind you was blowing snot up your back and trying to stampede over you....
You learned to find and thread a cervix fast :wink: :lol:
 

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